o/t new computer

[MichaelJ]

The IT guys use to do this but this time they told

me to do it and probley the last so let me know

what i change? thank for aney help.

 

OP System Requirements

Windows XP Professional

 

CPU

Intel Pentium IV 2.2+ GHz or AMD Athlon XP 1800+

 

RAM

512 MB or more

 

Video Card

64 MB (or more) card with hardware 3D acceleration and solid OpenGL support NVIDIA Quadro

 

Hard Drive

7200 rpm UDMA 100/133 IDE or Wide Ultra2 SCSI

 

Monitor

21 in.

 

Backup

CD-RW

[cadcam]

OP System Requirements

Windows XP Professional

 

CPU

Intel Pentium IV 2.6+ GHz or AMD Athlon XP 3000+

 

RAM

DDR 512 MB or more

 

Video Card

128 MB (or more) card with hardware 3D acceleration and solid OpenGL support NVIDIA Quadro

 

Hard Drive

80GB 7200RPM w/ 8MB Buffer SATA 150 IDE or Wide Ultra2 SCSI

 

LCD Monitor

17in. + /Better viewing and more viewing area with the LCD.

 

JM2C

 

Backup

CD-RW or DVD+-

[MichaelJ]

Thank you. i do not know this side of what is the best

i do about 99% of the work is from Solid Works

 

[ 10-26-2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: MichaelJ ]

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If it `ll be me I`ll go for AMD MP 2800 dual processor 2 gig ram

 

Or Athlon XP 3000 .THe rest like Jay mentioned except LCD .

I would go with good quality 19 or 21 `` conventional display like LG

 

THe minimum Athlon XP 2000 with 512 Ram

(BTW it this is my home pc Athlon xp2000 with 512 DDR ram outperforms in Mastercam tasks my work comp Intel PIV 2400 with 1 gig ram with other stuff similar ).

 

Iskander teh love my AMD

[Bullines]

Too add, if you go the AMD route and your shop doesn't replace computers often, don't skimp on cooling. AMD CPUs run much hotter than their Intel counterparts and nothing kills hardware components more painfully than heat. I'd recommend a big CPU heatsink, good compound (like Arctic Silver) and reliable front and rear case fans, along with the CPU fan.

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+100 TO Bullines , but it worth !

[beav700]

Go with LCD monitor. Do not buy twenty year old technology that kills your eyes. Trust me on this one. We just switched from 22" CRT to 20" IBM LCDs. My eyes use to hurt after eight hours of looking at the CRT with 85MHz refresh rate (the highest) and now I sit in front of our LCD at work and home for more than 14 hours at a time and don't even rubb my eyes anymore. Not to mention how mych sharper the image and spacially text is. Save your eyes guys and headaches. I was getting headaches at least twice a week. Now I don't remeber tha last time I had a headache. The 20" IBM LCD were little pricey, but I got a UltraSharp DELL 18" LCD for home ($479) and the screeen is amazing. It's shrper than my 19" year old ViewSonic that I geve away. After using LCD at work I could not look at crappy pulsating CRT I had at home. Not to mantion that the DELL LCDs are brighter than most CRTs. Who ever tells you that CRT screens are better is doing it because he can't affort any thing better. Just read any review on the net. Find me one that recommends CRT over LCD.

 

[ 10-26-2003, 12:08 PM: Message edited by: beav700 ]

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Beav700.

 

Just curious .

What about gaming ?

 

In the fast moving picture LCD has inertia and I till this day had not seen LCD fully free from this .

 

 

Iskander whooping the war cry "Fresh meat !"

[gcode]

Micheal,

 

You can go the the Dell Workstaion website

and build a workstaion with

 

3 gig p4 and 800 mhz front side bus

1 gig of 400 mhz ram

a Quadro FX-500 128 meg video card

a 40 meg ATA hard drive

WIN 2K or XP Pro OS

 

It will cost you about $1700.

 

Check out the Precision 360

 

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/c...s=04&l=en&s=bsd

 

 

beav700 is right about LCD monitors.

I'm running and NEC 21in CAD monitor

and a Samsung SyncMaster 191i LCD side by side

The viewing area is identical and the LCD is much easier on the eyes. It takes up 1/5 the desk space

uses 1/3 the power, puts out almost no heat and

cost $40 less that the 21 in tube monitor.

The LCD's picture is not quite as good, but the

benifits far outway that in my opinion.

 

I'm also running a Quadro FX-500 video card.

(bought it from Amazon.com for $280)

SolidWorks and NVIDIA worked together to opitmise

the Quadro FX series of video cards for SW 2004.

I've still got SW 2003 so I can't comment on that

aspect.

 

Here's a link to a good write up on Mastercam hardware requirements

 

http://www.emastercam.com/info/hardware.php

 

[ 10-26-2003, 12:47 PM: Message edited by: gcode ]

[cadcam]

quote:

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What about gaming ?

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plasttav, this not personal but this not gaming this cad-cam there is a diffrence.

 

I would not say for bussness to buy a gaming box to do manufatureing.

 

Like Beav700 has stated much easer on the eyes.

after a long day looking at a screen this makes a diffrence.

 

And there is higher end LCD's that are greate for Gaming motion.

 

Mikej, you can not go wrong using the AMD by any means.

As for a Dual as I know SW does not support Dual CPU,s at this time eather. you might want to cheack.

Other wise save some money for more Ram and a nicer monitor & CPU speed.

[beav700]

The gap is closing when it comes to gaming. The only game I had a problem with was Allien VS Predator 2. There is some part of the game where pitch black where with my CRT I could turned Contrast low and brightness high and see some traces of the environment surrounding me. I could not do that with my LSD. If you refer to the ghosting effect (trailing), that's no longer an issue with the new monitors with .16 response time or better.

 

[ 10-26-2003, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: beav700 ]

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I don`t like LCd`s ,that`s my personal preference .

I don`t play games at work but I don`t like LCD`s anyway .

I will not buy it for myself .

For such money I can buy super good 19`` display.

21 `` is too big IMHO cause exists the optimum distance between the eyes and screen and it is 2 big for 21 .

 

I asked about gaming cause if the display can stand the games like Unreal Tournament 2003 good it will be good for CAD -CAM 2 in my humble opinion .

UT2003 is my benchmark program !

 

Iskander teh flack cannon fighter

 

[ 10-26-2003, 01:12 PM: Message edited by: plasttav ]

[gcode]

I used 17in LCD's at home for a couple of

years and thought they were great.

Then I got a 21in tube and a 19in LCD

at work. Now those 17in LCD's look like

postage stamps when I work at home

[cadcam]

Gcode at least the price on the larger LCD,s are coming down in price.

I have been Eyeballing the 23" & 23" one big time.

[gcode]

I'm reall happy with my Samsung 19in. ($590???)

You can get a Samsung 21in for about $1200

with rebates now.

 

The 19 looks pretty small in the store, but

on your desk, there's a whole lot of realestate there.

 

My 19 in LCD has exactly the same viewing area as my 21in tube.

 

You have to be careful buying LCD screens.

There are 3 different quality levels (these Samsungs are midrange). The high end is still

very expensive, and the low end is useless

for CAD/CAM.

[crazy^millman]

+100 on the LCD and Also I perefer Petinums and would look at the Xeon processoer and would look at a Dual if you have the Budget.

 

 

Crazy Millman

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Petinums -nice nick for Pentiums !

 

LOL

 

Millman you are creative man !

 

BTW why do you prefare Petinums ?

 

 

Iskander teh love my AMD

[crazy^millman]

Well been my experience that when the other proecessors started on the market they couldn't handle complex cruching. I know they have go better but just like was stated other heat up more and just personal preference and been good to me over the years. I have had p1,p2,p3,and p4 and all have done good for me and give me little problems where as I have heard horror stories of other processors.

 

CRazy Millman

[MichaelJ]

Thank you for the replys. I will send it in and se what they say.

[Müřlıń®]

AMD suxxors J/K I like Intel....

 

I'a get the new Intel Northwood 3.06 HT tomarrow......that sucker finally came down to around 250 bucks I can finally built my Shuttle

 

I have been struggling on which LCD to get....I have never used them. The ones they make these days have a large angle viewing and you dont have to be direectly in front of them.

I'm glad you guys have now the choice is easier.

 

Going to get a infared trackball abd keyboard also....

 

 

Murlin teh going to give p3 400 to Gallager and let him hit it with sledge hammer.....Wait I will just do it meself

[pimij]

Intel suxxors J/K I like AMD....

 

just built a new system - AMD 2800, Gigabyte mainboard with everything but the kitchen sink, Geforce FX 5900 with flashy blue lite ????? (why do they do this?) two 80gb drives, 1gb dual channel ddr ram. Win xp pro

 

MasterCAM screaming now!!