O/T Mad cow hits USA

[Philcott]

News reports are saying mad cow has been confirmed in Washington State. This will be interesting to watch as countries around the world ban US beef since the USA was so fast to ban (rightfully so, in my belief) Canadian imports of beef. I hope for the cattlemens sake it is an isolated incident. The UK had some terrible cleanup to do a few years ago.

 

Phil

[pimij]

Being a Canadian and reading both sides of the debate over the canadian mad-cow issue. I hope there is a quick ban on american beef too! From what I read up here most of the Canadian beef was still bought up by americans but at a very low price - they just wouldn't accept shipment of it until the contraversy died down. That's a low blow.

 

I just hope it doesn't get covered up to save american business. At least we were honest about it.

 

I know I'm going to get railed for these comments but oh well. flame away.

[Müřlıń®]

Threre are rumors that there have already been cases of mad cow in the county I am living in.

 

They have covered it up by saying it is Jacobson's Deases.

 

Course that is just a "Rumor" and nothing has been "confirmed".

 

This is what happens when you feed sheep to cows......like those carnavor cows are going to go kill some sheep and eat them.

 

.....stupid geneticists.......

 

 

Murlin

 

[ 12-24-2003, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: Murlin ]

[Noel]

I think the ban on Canadian beef was an over reaction so I think to ban US beef after one case would be premature as long as the screening process was stepped up and the propper steps were taken to make sure it is an isolated case.I would hate to have to stop eating beef.

Jim heres you flame

 

 

 

 

Noel

 

[ 12-24-2003, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: Noel Sevigny ]

[Charles Davis]

It's a serious issue. We banned Canadian beef over it, and can't blame other countries for being extremely cautious also. That's the breaks; nothing personal. Look what happened in England with thousands of cattle being destroyed.

 

A few months ago we stopped buying beef from the supermarkets, and instead purchase from a small local butcher shop. The price is the same and you avoid buying beef from the mega-industrial factories where cross-contamination is more likely (especially with ground beef).

 

I feel sorry for the beef producers, because they don't do great even in the best of times.

[Craig Madsen from CM3D]

Since it takes 3 or 4 years for the cows to show symptoms of mad cow disease, I think there will be a major impact on that areas ranchers. Cattle are bought, sold, mated, etc. between ranches all the time.

 

Tracking the contacts between infected and exposed animals will be a monumental task. That, in part, is why so many were destroyed in England.

[Peccator]

There is a mood swing that some women go thru each month. It is called PMS. Do you know why it is called PMS?

 

 

Because the term Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

[Jack Mitchell]

My cousin is a butcher in Brantford, Ontario, Canada – the following info comes from somebody that actually works the trade.

He tells me that a cow that has a broken leg is unfit for human consumption and that a cow that appears to be sick is also unfit unless cleared by an inspector – which bye the way – doesn’t happen, at least not around here.

 

Two things have occurred in Washington; a cow that could not walk was processed, and worse, a cow that was paralyzed, allegedly from birthing, was processed.

Let’s take a long hard look at this – would you feed to your family a fish that was 80% infested with some kind of cancer or disease and simply cut off the good parts? What a sham!

My bet is that somebody at the slaughter house tipped the media and that Washington had a choice to bring this public now or face the public wrath of an exposing media bloodbath.

 

The process of beef inspection and slaughter must change immediately.

Might I suggest that a sickly cow be quarantined until such time that a veterinarian clears the animal as healthy?

And that an animal that cannot walk be deemed as unacceptable for human consumption.

Two such simple rulings should virtually eliminate unsafe meat products and procedure.

 

The very fact that a paralyzed cow with BSE (mad cow disease) was processed and consumed speaks volumes about lax procedure and inspectors looking the other way.

I realize that ten thousand some odd pounds were recalled just as I realize that some of the beef was also consumed – likely in the form of ground beef.

 

Accountability doesn’t begin with politicians stating they’re having prime rib for Christmas dinner – it begins with good will and effort to fix poor business practice.

 

Regards, Jack

 

[ 12-26-2003, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Jack Mitchell ]

[Scott Bond]

Hi Jack

I heard on our news that one cow mad cow was identified, I don't beleive that cow was processed, and then identified. The USA did not create the mad cow disease , but we have received it. Now we have a few cowboys down here that will fix the problem, we won't send it to the next country. Hey what's for lunch

 

Scotty Bond AKA "Scot T Bone "

[Müřlıń®]

Scott, I read that article. It stated that just the brain and spinal cord of the animal were cut out and the rest of the carcus went on to processing.

 

+1000 to Jack.....

 

The beef down in the Austin slaughter house are pumped up with so many antibiotics and steriods, they are walking dead already.

 

I try not to think about it when I eat a steak.

 

But it's always in the back of my mind.....

 

I'm thinking of getting a large freezer and going to the local ranchers and buying my beef.

 

The powers that be, lie to us all the time. Are we to believe that this

"one" cow was the only one??

 

Anyone who believes this garbage is is more gullible than I......and thats pretty gullible....

 

 

Murlin

[Scott Bond]

Bummer

Does anyone have a link vto the article?

Or a similar one?

[Zero]

Well this one was from CNN/Netscape yesterday. Towards the bottom of the article is this statement :

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the U.S. meat supply was safe because the brain and spine were removed from the suspect Holstein dairy cow in Washington before it was sent on for processing.

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[Jack Mitchell]

First step: quarantine and destroy the entire herd “if necessary” to try to invoke immediate confidence in the government and beef industry.

Second step: arrest the inspector and his immediate supervisor (easily identifiable on every carcass with a dye stamp).

Third step: close the processing plant until such time that it is cleared of any wrong doing regarding safe food preparation and practice.

Forth step: hire some cow whisperers and hope that they’ll talk - cause nobody else is.

Fifth step: give a couple of billion to Jack N Box, Wendy’s, and McDonalds as a “sorry about your luck gratuity” regarding their imminent stock plunge.

 

Seriously though, due to the health concerns, American beef is now off limits for 24 importing countries no less, which accounts for approximately 50% of their market.

America is about to buy beef at bargain basement prices until the product bans are lifted – this will take many months and will cost many jobs just as it did in Canada.

 

“An outbreak of mad cow disease, known formally as bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), forced the slaughter of millions of cattle in Europe in the 1990s. At least 137 people, mostly in Britain, died of a human form of the disease, known as variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease.

In both cattle and humans, the disease destroys portions of the brain, causing paralysis and blindness. There is no cure.”

 

Canada really took a beating from the BSE scare from one unprocessed cow; they learned from this and put in place many guidelines to ensure minimization so that this shouldn’t occur in the future. As a result foreign countries lifted the ban; the only exception is the USA, which will still allow only boneless cuts from cows less than 30 months old.

 

The quote was found on www.excite.com which is also the home page that I prefer for news and events.

 

Regards, Jack

[Noel]

Does anyone believe in karma ?

 

 

 

 

Noel

 

[ 12-26-2003, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: Noel Sevigny ]

[jspangler]

Read "The Jungle".

 

John

[Jack Mitchell]

The whole novel online including chapters; spinkled with some thought provoking concepts about the evils of capitalism – written in 1906.

 

http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Sinclair/TheJungle/

 

 

The Jungle

Perhaps best known for its effect on the United States meat packing industry (its exposé of conditions in meat packing plants led to legislation regulating the industry), it in fact builds a case for socialism.

 

http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/jungle/

 

This appears to be some kind of teaching/learning material required at Berkley – I am just hazarding a guess with the analogy.

 

 

Regards, Jack

 

[ 12-26-2003, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: Jack Mitchell ]

[Tony]

Are local Deer could have C.W.D.

Are local fish could have Mercury in them

Now the Beef could have M.C.D.

 

Running out of options here...

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

Noel,

 

Karma is a good thing

 

Jimmy

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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...the evils of capitalism ...

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I love it when Socialists bring this garbage up. You know, socialism works in theory, but in reality, well I live in reality anyway, those fools in Berkley live in opium dens it seems like, and since humans are involved, theory goes out the window in "macro" (Country, State, County, City) as opposed to "micro" (Neighborhood, street, block) situations. Just look at the collapse of the "Iron Curtain". It's only a matter of time before all the Communist/Socialist nations collapse, just a matter of time. Look at all the "Socialist" nations, very few people work hard, there is no incentive. Look at Union Shops - same deal. Yeah they survive, but do they really thrive like they could without all that Union Beaureaucracy(sp?)? Union shops could do so much better. Socialism/Communism are extremely opressive cultures and systems of economics and eventually will collapse. Capitalism with all it's faults and repurcussions from those faults is still the far superior system.

 

JM2C

[Müřlıń®]

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Running out of options here...

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Ummm....I was thinking of becomming a vegetarian....If you actually consumed REAL veggies,(not the immatations that they sell in your supermarket)you would live alot longer and be healthier.

 

 

I say it again, I guarantee we would all live longer if we didn't eat meat.

 

Even without the whole MCD thing.....

 

Just look at all the health related issues that come from consuming animal products.

 

There is a stigma that hangs around veggies that tells us that if you don't eat meat you can't be healthy.

 

 

NOT!!!...................lies,lies,lies....

 

Just another lie in the grand illusion that is the great money machine, keeping all the wheels of Capitolism working....

 

Without sickness and disease, a great cog in this wheel would break off and the Machine would not work properly......scary if you sit back and really think about it....

 

I know, I know, I' wierd....I just look at the flip side of stuff...

 

 

Murlin

[George_Gerhard]

+1 Murlin

You dont have to eat red meat. Eat chicken and egg whites for your protein, eat lots of green vegetables.

People in Okinawa live to be 116 and never eat red meat.

I eat oatmeal and 10 egg whites every morning

and chicken 3 times a day, veggies and salad, and a few protein shakes.

Im 45 166lbs with 8 percent body fat

[Zero]

NOT EAT MEAT????? What are you crazy?

 

 

Zero teh against the innocent slaughter of helpless plants for human consumption.

 

[ 12-27-2003, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: Zero ]

[Müřlıń®]

LOL Zero.......

 

Don't get me wrong, I love a big juicy steak from the Outback.....or anywhere else for that matter.....

 

 

OK now you've done it.....Im gonna take my chances and go to the Outback tonite

 

 

Murlin teh wish me luck

[Scott Bond]

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wish me luck

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From ScotTbone

[cadcam]

Sorry but here is an update.

 

Industry investigators have tentatively concluded that the Holstein infected with mad cow disease in Washington state was imported into the United States from Canada.

 

from NBC news