how can i make an NC file into a NCD file?

[LostAnn]

i am using Mastercam v8 and i am using Techno GCODE Interface v2.46 to mill. I am having a problem with both and i was wondering if there is a way to convert a NC file into an NCD file, for that is what Techno uses. Can ya PLEASE help me? (i need to know for school, it's for a project that is a grade)

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Go to explorer, right click on your file. Select "Rename", this will highlight the whole nane of the file. where you see the "NC", change it to "NCD" and enter.

 

HTH

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

To fix it permanently;

 

Go to File, Edit Post. FInd this line;

code:

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sextnc      .nc     #NC extension override

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If you can't find it, insert the line above at the bottom of the "General Output Settings" and change the ".nc" to ".ncd"

 

HTH

[LostAnn]

Thanks, when i get to school tomorrow I'll give it a shot and post if it worked. I'll post while at school. But thanks again.

[LostAnn]

hey I got to school and changed the file. Thanks for the instructions James, but now there is a new problem. I was going to run it and an error appeared. This is what it said:

Run-time '9':

Subscript out of range

 

Can someone tell me what this means? I asked my instructor, but he was unable to tell me. Please and thank you.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Is this error on your CNC machine or is it on your computer?

[LostAnn]

The error message appeared on Techno GCODE Interface. Is that what you are asking?

[Tony]

Mary,

What your trying to do,has anyone Done this

before at your School?

What does the Techno G Code Look like

That has worked in the past?

Can you Copy and paste some here.

like this:

%

O11

(26-01-04 TIME=09:55 )

(T03 DIA=.1250 RAD=0. POCKET....)

(T02 DIA=.0625 RAD=0. ROUGH.....)

(T01 DIA=.1560 RAD=0. POCKET....)

G20G40G80G17

G91G28G0Z0

G28X0Y0

T3M6

G90G54G00X0Y0

X.4773Y-.0249

G43Z3.H3S2500M3

M7

Z2.

G1Z1.598F8.

X.48Y-.0665Z1.5973

Etc.

[chris m]

+1 to Tony

 

In addition, I will ask my standard questions:

 

1) Is this a new machine?

 

2) Have you personally ever run a program in this machine before?

 

3) Has ANY program ever run on this machine before?

 

4) Has any Mastercam program ever run on this machine?

 

5) Do you get the alarm when sending the program or when running the program?

 

6) What software does the communicating?

 

Sorry for the grilling, but there are a LOT of variables here.

 

Try to get a hand on the manual for the machine and look up the error you got to see what their description is; perhaps you could post it here...

 

C

[LostAnn]

Ok Tony I will try and get the information, tommorrow at school. And we are using a new program then what we used to use. We used MasterCam, but with MSDOS instead of Techno GCode. We have been able to emboss/chisel and make name plates. We have made the Toyota emblem with it. This new project we are trying to make is on an uneven surface. But that is about all I know. And oh yes, we have been using the same mastercam program and the machine is the same. We are now trying projects with Techno GCODE. But as I said, I will get back on tomorrow at school and have my teacher there with me, answering these questions. And the name is Ann.

[Joeyls319]

Hello,

I hate to butt in but I have a question. What is NCD and what is it for or do? this is the first I've ever heard of it.

 

Thanks

Joey

[Thad]

Joey,

 

It's the file extension of Ann's posted programs. Some machines require a specific extension. MC defaults to .nc (pocket.nc). We have ours set up to be .txt (pocket.txt). Exactly the same program except for the extension.

 

Thad

[Thad]

quote:

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Exactly the same program except for the extension.

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I'm beginning to wonder about my earlier statement. Perhaps they're not exactly the same thing. It seems odd to get an error just by changing what James said.

 

 

At their website it says:

 

quote:

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The Techno G-Code accepts industry standard G-Code programs and translates them into a form compatible with the Techno series of electronics.

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Does Techno G-Code perform some type of conversion to give you the .ncd file? It kind of sounds like it.

 

Ann, what post are you using?

 

Thad

[Thad]

They also list this as sample code.

 

quote:

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;SAMPLE1.NCD FOR TECHNO G-CODE INTERFACE

N030 G90

N040 M03

N050 G00 X0.75 Y1.0 Z0.2

N060 G01 Z-0.1 F5.0

N070 X0.25 F20.0

N080 G03 X0 Y0.75 I0 J-0.25

N090 G01 Y0.25

N100 G03 X0.25 Y0 I0.25 J0

N110 G01 X0.75

N120 G03 X1 Y0.25 I0 J0.25

N130 G01 Y0.75

N140 G03 X0.75 Y1 I-0.25 J0

N150 G00 Z0.2

N160 X0.677 Y0.823

N170 G01 Z-0.1 F5.0

N180 G03 X0.5 Y0.896 I-0.177 F20.0

N190 G03 X0.323 Y0.823 I0 J0.25

N200 G01 X0.177 Y0.677

N210 G03 X0.104 Y0.5 I0.177 J-0.177

N220 G03 X0.177 Y0.323 I0.25 J0

N230 G01 X0.323 Y0.177

N240 G03 X0.5 Y0.104 I0.177 J0.177

N250 G03 X0.677 Y0.177 I0 J0.25

N260 G01 X0.823 Y0.323

N270 G03 X0.896 Y0.5 I-0.177 J0.177

N280 G03 X0.823 Y0.677 I-0.25 J0

N290 G01 X0.677 Y0.823

N300 G00 Z0.2

N310 M05

N320 M30

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Welcome to the board.

 

Thad

 

[ 01-29-2004, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: Thad ]

[crazy^millman]

Thad you know but I will say it anyway Code work better than quote in that example.

 

 

[Thad]

Actually, I didn't know. I tried it again by pasting it in

, but the result was horrendous!        It gave me one line a mile long!!!  I went back in and manually edited it.

 

Thad

 

[ 01-29-2004, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: Thad ]

[Joeyls319]

Thad,

Thanks for the answer. We have ours either as an .xl2 or txt file depending on the machine. What type of machines use ncd or can you set it for whatever you want depending on the controller?

 

Thanks for your time,

Joey

[Joeyls319]

Sorry if some of my questions seem stupid or common sense it's just I don't have a whole lot of experience under my belt yet.

 

Joey

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

Technos will run a nci file without posting, or you can use mp_ez to generate gcode and the machine ignores what it dont understand. It does have to pre-process everything to create its own native file which it does before running.

[Thad]

quote:

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What type of machines use ncd

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Good question. What type of machine are you using? Is is a Techno Isel or are you only using their software? Technically, it *may not* matter what the extension is. I could probably make up my own extension (.wtf ). As long as I associated that extension with a text editor, I could still open/edit it. I don't think a Fadal cares what extension it is.

 

 

quote:

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or can you set it for whatever you want depending on the controller?

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Yes, you can set it to what you want.

 

 

quote:

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Sorry if some of my questions seem stupid or common sense it's just I don't have a whole lot of experience under my belt yet.

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Joey, we're all here to help and be helped. You won't find a better bunch than what you have here.

 

Thad

[heeler]

Ann,

 

If you are still having problems, Email me. I can put you in touch with my mastercam reseller, who happens to also be a Techno reseller. He's a great guy who I am sure would and could help you.

 

Glenn

[LostAnn]

Thanks alot, but my teacher gave up on it and told us to do something else. >> I hate giving up, but I'm getting out of it today, so it's not my problem any more and really do appreciate all the help ya'll gave me. It helped out alot. Thanks.

[Kevingineer]

You can just change the file extension although the way that your post processor created the file (g-code) it will most likely not work. All you really have to do is cut out the first few lines of mill settings code in the nc file (up to "n1") and replace that with the setup code from a known working ncd code. also you might want to go to the beginning and end and make sure that the %(stop start prog) codes are gone as ncd format usually use "(start)" and "(end)". also you want to make sure that the feed rates etc. are all want you want them to be. This can all be done fairly simply with a text editor like notepad, or if there is a lot of changes you wish to make you can import them into excel.

[Guest]

lol, newb's

 

I hope they didn't wait 11 years for an answer  

[Thee Rickster ™]

lol, newb's

 

I hope they didn't wait 11 years for an answer  

I got that beat, been married 18 yrs to current wife.

I still never actually hear 'yes' to what she eventually gives in to every other day....