Retain Misc. Values???

[David Eno]

Is there any way to retain misc. values from one toolpath to the next?

[CNCGUY]

Once they are changed in an operation, I dont think they will carry over to the next op.

 

You could change the defaults if this is something you change on every operation.

 

HTH

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Actually there is a way. I do it all the time. I call this postblock from ptlchgcomon and it evaluates the condition of mi8 and saves it's condition for use later.

 

 

code:

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if mi8>1, pcctrlon

 

pcctrlon

if mi8 = 1, pbld, n, "G8P1", "(LOOK-AHEAD ON)", e

if mi8 = 2, pbld, n, "G5.1Q1", "(AICC ON)", e

if mi8 = 3, pbld, n, "G5P10000", "(HPCC ON)", e

prv_mi8 = mi8

!mi8

 

pcctrloff

if prv_mi8 =1, pbld, n, "G8P0", "(LOOK-AHEAD OFF)", e

if prv_mi8 =2, pbld, n, "G5.1Q0", "(AICC OFF)", e

if prv_mi8 =3, pbld, n, "G5P0", "(HPCC OFF)", e

!mi8

---

HTH

[Jim Evans from CNC Software]

dave,

 

do you mean during the creation of toolpaths or posting of toolpaths?

 

During toolpath creationg the where the default Misc values come from can be contolled in screen configure, but if you change one then do a another operation of the same type, that change isn't remembered. You can use the edit common paramters in the ops manager to edit them across multiple toolpaths to make them the same.

 

As far as when posting, you coul duse the predfined postblock ptoolend. Ptoolend gets called at the end of the current operation right before the next 1011 (Misc Reals) is read.

 

I hope soem of this helps!

[CAM Disciple]

Jim,

 

Th edit common doesn't work very well with the misc int.

 

if you have mi1 = 1, mi2=4 in the first toolpath

and mi1=0,mi2=3 in the second toolpath.

 

Using edit common to change the mi1=1 for all toolpath will reset the mi2 value to whatever value the selected toolpath have.

 

Is that true? or I am missing something here?

 

Please advise. Thanks

[Jim Evans from CNC Software]

You are correct. Edit common misc values doesn't allow you to only edit a specifc misc value, it's an all or nothing. But he may want that, we don't know until he responds.

[David Eno]

Hello. Thank you for your responses.

 

I'd like to retain the misc. vars during toolpath creation. That is, if I do a Toolpath, Contour and set some of the vars, I'd like them to remain the same, by default, for the next toolpath.

 

In particular, I use a misc. real for the tool length for our Thermwood 5-axis CNC router post. I just have my post add that value to the known distance from the pivot to the face of the collet for calculations. It would be nice to not have to click on the Misc. Vars button to change that one value every time.

 

Thanks again.

[CAM Disciple]

Since this answer won't change, you can set your answer in your post. Or use the treacherous edit common feature in your toolpath manager.

 

or edit the post to ask you the question and then answer the question every time.

 

Hope this helps

[crazy^millman]

David are you using the Tool-Eye on the Machine and do you use the G52 Fixture Offsets on that Machine to me the only way to fly. I can set up 10 different parts with 10 different fixture offset and do 3 axis and 5 axis to all the parts and never have a problem. I know this really goes against the G92 way but I have found that I d onot and problay will never use spoil board again on the Thermwood for the type of wrok we do. I make very complex molds and Models and others things and this way has proven invauleable. Matt and a couple other guys Run the Thermwoods and if we can be of help just ask.

 

HTH ans just my opinion use my advice with catuion and with a grain of salt.

[TurboTom]

Why don't they go back to the way they had it on version 6. You could check which ones you wanted to change. It had 2 buttons also that would do "ALL ON" and "ALL OFF" to help in adjusting. We are having a problem now because it is used a lot to make changes to programs and now is taking longer due to going into each operation so you do not disturb the Misc values that should not be changed.

[crazy^millman]

Do you have the post with the defaults already in it for the most used ones?

[Tim Johnson]

James,

 

By using the code shown, are you saying that you set mi8 in the first operation and it will stay with all the other ops?

[Pierre Côté]

Screen

config

nc settings

Misc values

set misc values on first operation of each type

 

This will hold the pervious misc value from previous operation (Same Type ?)

[connormac]

James

sorry to get off track. Where is pccrtlon.

and what is pbld. that is what I need to put in my post to get G08 P1 & G08 P0

[Mike Whitten CAD/CAM Contractors]

David Eno,

 

I may be misunderstanding here because I am tired tonight but as I believe Ron said above, do you have the numbered questions set for the defaults in the post?

 

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

# Default Miscellaneous Integer Values

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

301. Miscellaneous integer variable 1 (mi1)? 0

302. Absolute or Incremental [0=ABS,1=INC] (mi2)? 0

303. Miscellaneous integer variable 3 (mi3)? 0

304. Miscellaneous integer variable 4 (mi4)? 0

305. Miscellaneous integer variable 5 (mi5)? 0

306. Miscellaneous integer variable 6 (mi6)? 0

307. Miscellaneous integer variable 7 (mi7)? 0

308. Miscellaneous integer variable 8 (mi8)? 0

309. Lock on First WCS [0=No,1=Yes] (mi9)? 0

310. M00 before operation [0=No,1=Yes] (mi10)? 0

 

This may help?

 

Mike

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Connormac,

 

pcctrlon is a postblock I created to handle the different Contour COntrol methods, Look Ahead, SHPCC/AICC, and HPCC. pbld is block delete. If you use canned text, you can insert block deletes in the program and wherever you see pbld is where a block delete would be inserted.

 

Here's the mi values I use...

 

code:

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# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

# Default Miscellaneous Integer Values

# --------------------------------------------------------------------------

301. Miscellaneous integer variable 1 (mi1)? 0

302. Absolute or Incremental [0=ABS,1=INC] (mi2)? 0

303. Miscellaneous integer variable 3 (mi3)? 0

304. Miscellaneous integer variable 4 (mi4)? 0

305. Miscellaneous integer variable 5 (mi5)? 0

306. Miscellaneous integer variable 6 (mi6)? 0

307. Tool Breakage Detection [0=No,1=Yes] (mi7)? 0

308. C. Control [0=No,1=Lk-Ahd, 2=SHPCC, 3=HPCC] (mi8)? 0

309. Lock on First WCS [0=No,1=Yes] (mi9)? 0

310. M00 before operation [0=No,1=Yes] (mi10)? 0

---

HTH

[connormac]

James

 

Help .

 

I put

if mi9>1, pcctrlon

in my ptlchg line . I don't have ptlchgcomon.

 

under that I put

pcctrlon

if mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 5 , n, "G08 P1" , e

if mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 4 , n, "G08 P1" , e

 

pcctrloff

if prv_mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 5 , n, "G08 P0" , e

if prv_mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 4 , n, "G08 P0" , e

 

Then in line 309 I put

309. C. Control [0=No,1=Lk-Ahd] (mi9)? 0

 

but I still don't get G08 P1 for machine 4 or 5.

Help!!

[crazy^millman]

You need 1 to make that condition statement true to get what you are looking for.

 

HTH

[connormac]

Huh ???

[crazy^millman]

Ok let me see if I can explain and hope this makes sense. The post is really juts a long math problem the if in the post are just what they mean if this is equal to this amount then do this for the nc code. Then you may have if with a greater > than sign for an amount so let us say it is if zout is greater that .25 then do this and the post will do what ever it is asked to do if that amount is greater than .25. Where if that amount is less than .25 it will not do it or possible do nothing or it may have the else below it and do that if there is one for that if statement. This line

code:

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 if mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 5 , n, "G08 P1" , e  

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breaks down like this ( if the vaule in mi9 for this operation is equal to 1 and the machine type is equal to five the output in the nc code will be G08 P1). If you do not have the machine type equal to 5 and you do not have the mi9 equal to 1 then nothing is going to happen and what you are looking for the be output will not happen. My comment is to make the mi9 vaule 1 but you would have to also make sure the machine type is 5 or 4 also for this to work correctly in the post and to get what you are looking for to come out right. By having the zero in the amount you have taken away one of the pieces of the equation to be completed but if the other is not completed then you will still not get the output in the post you are looking for.

 

I hope that was helpful.

[connormac]

Are you talking about the line.

if mi9>1, pcctrlon

I got that from James I have changed it to this

 

if mi9=1, pcctrlon

 

still no workie

 

[connormac]

oh bye the way thanks for the help. I feel like I'm about 1 line away from making it work. I just don't know which line

[connormac]

Ron,

which do you like to play?

9-ball, 8-ball , straight or snooker

 

Kyle

[crazy^millman]

Kyle I like them all. 9 ball for thinking or snooker. 8 ball fun playing with friends and 3 ball just for the heck of it. All types of rules and handicaps I have played and use to play just about everyday but got married had some kids and well not much anymore but never pass up the chace if I got it. Chess has become my game of late and helps to get my mind of work and things.

 

Ok let me put it this way you need a 1 and you need to set the machine type the right way to get what you want.

 

My only question would be where in the post did you decribe the machtyp varaible and how do you make that 5 or 4 which what it has to be for what you have their to work.

 

Ok you have this:

code:

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pcctrlon

if mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 5 , n, "G08 P1" , e

if mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 4 , n, "G08 P1" , e

 

pcctrloff

if prv_mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 5 , n, "G08 P0" , e

if prv_mi9 = 1 & machtyp = 4 , n, "G08 P0" , e

---

and it does not work. In on the MISC page of the operation where you have been putting that 1 instead of the 0. I want you to change the above to this:

code:

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pcctrlon

if mi9 = 1, n, "G08 P1" , e

if mi9 = 1 , n, "G08 P1" , e

 

pcctrloff

if prv_mi9 = 1, n, "G08 P0" , e

if prv_mi9 = 1, n, "G08 P0" , e

---

and see if it works if not call your dealer and send them your post to take a look at along with a sample program that you put the 1 in the misc page and it did not work and see what they think.

 

HTH

 

[ 07-18-2004, 11:33 PM: Message edited by: Ron Branch ]

[connormac]

Thanks James and Ron,

 

I figured it all out!! With all your help.

 

Thanks for all the help

 

Kyle