M/C DNC

[johnl]

Hi All,

We just purchased two Mazak multiplex machines. Can M/C communicate the same as my G code machines? Im stepping into a new realm of DNC with these Mazak's. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

John

P.S. I forgot to tell everyone that we will be programming at the machine for the time being. I will want to store those programs offline.

[ 12-05-2001: Message edited by: johnl ]

[Toby]

John,

will you be programming in mazatrol or g-code.

[Mark H]

For posting to our Mazaks, we use the MPMAZAK.PST post that comes on the Mastercam CD. Works pretty good out of the box.

[Mark H]

Oh, you said Multiplex, I believe thats a lathe, sorry I havent used the lathe post. But look on the CD for it.

Our lathe guy programs everything with Mazatrol conversational. He hasnt run into anything that he could handle using Mazatrol (sorry James ).

[ 12-05-2001: Message edited by: Mark H ]

[cadcam]

Mark H,

sense your ae progamming in standerd gcode you should be able to connect with the mill.

but you do need to make sure the RS232 cable is done right for this machine.

[TODD_P]

Make sure you have the EIA option installed in your machines or else it will not run standard G-code. I use M/C lathe to program mazak lathes it works great, you will find that a standard G-code program will have a faster cycle time than the mazak canned cycles.

[Allan]

Mastercam could communicate with the Mazak, you'll need to set the parameters to binary. Done it a couple of times, Mazak charge you big for the g-code option on the lathes, check out the mazatrol post. Good luck

Allan

[lovell110]

Will M/C DNC function work with mazatrol language? What if you wanted to use mazatrol language only? How does it work?

 

Bummer!

[ 12-05-2001: Message edited by: lovell110 ]

[cadcam]

I am sorry but it will not commuicate with the Mazatrol.

you will need some thing like Predator DNC for that to happen.

[Mark H]

johnl,

Take a look at this chook from Camaix. I havent tried it, so I dont know how well it works, but it looks interesting.

[ 12-06-2001: Message edited by: Mark H ]

[Mark H]

Our new Mazak with the PC-Fusion-CNC controller comes with a floppy drive built in. So you should be able to save your files offline. There are a couple of ways to do this. By the way, the controller runs Windows 95.

As for our older Mazaks, they have the RS323 port that we use for DNC, but it also can double as a Mazak Mirco Disk connection. The Micro Disk is basically a portable floppy system. The only down side is that it formats the disk in a Mazak format, so you couldnt read that floppy on a PC.

[Glenn Bouman]

DNC-MAX from CIMCO is the best way to go. It has a Mazak protocol that supports both ISO and CMT format. Also allows you to remotely callup the file from the machine.

Let me know if you need referances of customers that use DNC-MAX with mazaks.

[cadcam]

Just so you know like i said ealer the Predator DNC will do the same thing that DNC-MAX from CIMCO

will do.

This just letting you know that there are more options out there.

[John_Carpenter]

Hi Johnl,

If these machines are new, then they either have the Mazak T-Plus controller or Fusion 640 controller. Both controllers have the ability to output either G code or Mazatrol code by using the Computer I/O softkey selection. If you are programming at the Mazak machines then you will probably be using the Mazatrol Programming Language to start with. This stores the data in Mazak format which can be output the RS232 port via Data I/O - Computer I/O. It stores the data in a psuedo looking M/G-code ASCII file with 3 digit M/G codes. The nice thing is that you do not have to use Mazatrol Protocol to communicate - M/C will work fine - The Fusion 640 controller also has an optional ethernet connection to allow a network to 'plugin' to the machine via a peer to peer connection. If these are new 'used' machines then they will have T1,2,4,6,or 32 type controllers. These controllers require a proprietary communications protocol in order to send the Mazatrol Programming Language Files offline.

Sincerely,

John

[Simtech]

John is right!

If you have a PC Fusion, you can install an ethernet card and work with your machine as if it were another PC in your companys network.

Saving files directly to the network server doesn't require any DNC or RS-232 cabling.

If it's available, that's the way to go!

Luc

[cadcam]

The Mazak with ethernet it is fantastic.

I ran one like that a few years back.

I would sugest if you can do that that would be the way to go.

Just throwing my .002