x2 hang up

[Dazz]

Hi guys has anyone had any problems with x2 struggling to open large or complex models where x would not have a problem.if i can get the file open and into wire frame things seem to operate more fluid.trying to generate a toolpath or just resaving the file is nearly imposible. i thought it maybe a graphics issue but as i say mcx doesn't have a problem. any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Mcam Nut]

I am yet to have a problem opening any large files yet. maybe the file somehow got corrupt.

[Johnny]

My X2 is definately faster that X1 in all respects

[Bruce Caulley]

Check the surface deviation and display tolerances. If they are set real tight in X2 then that may explain it.

 

Bruce

[Yogesh K. Raman]

I just opened my XMR2 file in X2, a 52 meg part with 1600 surfaces, a dashboard at 1/4 scale with toolpath coming from 5 different planes... felt like it was 2 or 3 second faster...

 

Dazz,

just check your toolpath memory allocation and tolerance settings, etc. in X2 and see if you can repeat the slowness on other PCs...

[Yogesh K. Raman]

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just resaving the file is nearly imposible

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go to Windows control panel, The X button and change the File Open Dialog Style to Woindows standard.... see if that improves things.

[Dazz]

Thanks guys but no real joy, i have noticed x2 uses about three times the computer power that mcx does, im resigned to having a **** computer.(1G ram, G force 2 integrated graphics card 80G spare memory)

[gcode]

dazz.. this may be a dumb question, but have you installed .Net Framework 2.0?

Its mandatory for X2 and they say it won't run with out it, but it will.... very very poorly.

[Mick]

gcode, I didn't think it ran at all without .Net 2.0. Are you saying it actually does run, but is slow?

 

That may explain the poor performance issues.

[gcode]

I seem to recall a couple of guys who installed X2 without .NET Frameowrk 2.0. They were very unhappy with the performance they were getting.

I did a search for thier posts but came up empty,

so maybe I'm mistaken. At any rate, it only takes a second to check, its either installed or it isn't.

[Kelly Burns]

I have noticed that solids are hanging up real bad when importing into X2. Some wont come in at all, and when changing surfaces to solids it just pukes. Task manager locks up at 100 % and I have to just close the file and try something else. These are files that would open fine with the MR2 release and now I have to dump the shading down to wireframe just to save them.

 

Any suggestions related to this would be apprecitated; thanks all

[gcode]

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solids are hanging up real bad

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are these solids "no history" bricks, or built in Mastercam solids?

 

I've got a file (filesize=68 meg) I did in V9 a couple of years ago. Its a 5X part the size of a large rowboat with over 200 5axis pockets. The file also contains about 20 other solids. (stock, clamps etc) . They are all "no history" bricks and the file opens about the same in V9, X_MR2, or X2.

 

I don't have many "built in Mastercam" solids as I do 95% of design work in SolidWorks and import them into Mastercam. I've had no trouble at all with this kind of solid.

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

Kelly,

 

You might send that to QC...

 

I had similar issues with one of our older computers (my workstation loves X2) and QC was able to open it with their "daily" build of X2 MR1. I expect you'll find some improvement in this area when we get MR1.

[Kelly Burns]

gcode:

Solids direct from SolidWorks,through the MCam direct. Also just importing them from the network as a solid seems to tie things up.

In particular several files with multiple solids,ie fixture, part, machine table etc.

Still using 06 Solidworks, I wonder if this has an effect on it.

 

Didnt have the same issues with MR2, I have a library of my components and X2 wants to crash when bringing in some, but not all, of those components.

 

Thanks for the input.

[gcode]

Kelly,

What setting do you have in

System Config/Converters ??

 

In the Solids import section I have

Solids checked

Edge Curves unchecked

Attempt to heal checked

Use surface stiching unchecked

[Kelly Burns]

Thats the same as Ive always kept it before, with the exception of the edge curves.

 

Ill try some more imports tommarow and let you know how I make out with it.

 

Thanx

[Todd Tracey from Fastech]

Kelly, try turning off the Save a bitmap option in config and let me know if that helps at all.

[Kelly Burns]

Nope. Didnt work either Todd.

I think I found the culprit file though. Its one of my machine tables. I put it up on the .ftp McX2 files/VF10 table if anyone wants to take a look at it. It doesnt want to shade and its the only feature all of my problem files have in common.

 

Worst case I guess I can redraw it and try again.

[Todd Tracey from Fastech]

I opened your file in less than 2 seconds and I could shade it in same time frame. No muss no fuss

[Todd Tracey from Fastech]

Are you opening across the network? If so, copy it local and see how it opens

[Todd Tracey from Fastech]

Are you opening across the network? If so, copy it local and see how it opens

[gcode]

Same here, it opened right away with no issues and shades instantly

[Kelly Burns]

Convert the surfaces to solids and try it.

[gcode]

Kelly, does your network login profile have restricted rights?

I've always run Mastercam with Admin rights, but

that's not allowed at my day job. I had Power

User rights and everything was OK. Last week, IT

discovered I was running a Power User profile and had a fit. IT didn't even want to give me rights

to write to the C drive

Anyway, they have drastically restricted my read/write privleges and it has causes me all sorts of trouble which is being worked out on an

issue by issue basis.

 

I'm wondrering if you could be having a similar issue with read/write privleges to your network??

[gcode]

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Convert the surfaces to solids

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I didn't even notice it was surfaces. Why didn't you bring it in as a solid brick in the first place?

 

edit: it converted from surface to solid in less than a second.

saved the solid as a new name. the new file opens in less than a second and shades or unshades instantly