Family of parts

[rchipper]

Hello,

 

I have been programming a family of parts,(different dia.'s and linear locations), by importing a new solid into an existing file of a dif. size part, putting geometry to the new solid then reselecting the new geometry for each tool and regenerating the path. Is there a faster/easier way to do this. Can Mastercam do parametric programming to adjust for the different sizes. I understand that Solidworks will make the adjustments using, I think it's a matrix table, but I don't have Solidworks.

Can anyone suggest a better way of doing this? Any input will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank you,

 

rchipper

[mkd]

theoretically, you could have a table driven pattern in SW to control features of the part. If the programming was done in MC4SW then it should regenerate correctly when making a change to the spreadsheet.

Never used MC4SW so don't know the pitfalls.

[Tim Johnson]

If the family of parts are close enough you might be better off manually writing a program using all XZ? variables then writing each seperate program with a G65 call. Give your print dimensions letters and input the values in the program(s).

 

G65 P4501 A1.0 B2.75 C.75 D1.014 ect...

 

G00X[#1+.05]Z#2

G01X-.05F.004

G00X#1Z[#2+.02]

.

.

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[FROZEN]

fbm???

[Greg Williams]

I am with Tim, Take the time to write a smart program with variables, Below is an example that uses Incremental moves and a Variable for the part length

 

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O4956 (J SERIES FRONT RAD)

(CAREFULL INCREMENTAL & ABSOLUTE PROGRAM)

(03.10.13)

(ADDED 0.5MM TO 6MM DIMENSION NOW 6.5)

(#563 X AXIS DEPTH)

 

N5 (SPINDLE-1 CUT SHAPE)

(T1010 H10. 10 ENDMILL)

(CUT FORM)

#570=0

 

M98 P4999 (LF/RF)

 

IF [#560LE2 ]GOTO6 (32MM WIDE)

#563=-22 (20 WIDE)

GOTO7

 

N6#563=-34 (32 WIDE)

 

N7 G28 U0

G28 V0 W0

 

G54

G00 T1010

G361 B0.0 D0.

G00 T [#543](TOOL PRECALL)

M69

G98 G19 M46

M303

M45

G43 H10.

G97 S5000 M13

M69

G00 C0

M68

G00 X60 Y0 Z0

G52 X0 Y#546 Z0 (BUGGER FACTOR ADJUST Y)

 

(***************************)

M172 (SYNC FOR LOWER SUPPORT)

(SUPPORT ON PART)

M175 (SYNC FOR LOWER SUPPORT)

(***************************)

 

IF [#562EQ0 ]GOTO900 (LEFT FACING C0)

 

(RIGHT FACING FROM HERE)

(CUT1 0.3MM STOCK)

G0 Y-25.0 Z [-#520-1.5]M8 (Z-81.5)

X#563

G1 Y-15.3 F300.

G3 V.5 W.5 R.5

G1 Z-2. F500.0 (Z-2)

G2 V7.3 W7.3 R7.3

G1 V4.

G2 V7.3 W-7.3 R7.3

G1 Z [-#520+12.5](Z-67.5)

G3 V.7 W-.7 R.7

G1 V6.

G2 V5.3 W-5.3 R5.3

G1 W-7.5

G3 V.5 W-.5 R.5

G1 V5.

G0 X50.0

 

G0 Y-25.0 Z [-#520-1.5](Z-81.5)

X#563

G1 Y-15. F300.0

G3 V.5 W.5 R.5

G1 Z-2. F500.0 (Z-2)

G2 V7. W7. R7.

G1 V4.

G2 V7. W-7. R7.

G1 Z [-#520+12.5](Z-67.5)

G3 V1. W-1. R1.

G1 V6.

G2 V5. W-5. R5.

G1 W-7.5

G3 V.5 W-.5 R.5

G1 V5.

G0 X50.0 M09

GOTO998 (EXIT)

(*******************)

 

 

N900 (LEFT FACING)

G0 Y-25.0 Z [-#520-1.5]M8 (Z-81.5)

X#563

G1 Y-16.3 F300.0

G3 V.5 W.5 R.5

G1 W7.5 F500.0 (Z-73.5)

G2 V5.3 W5.3 R5.3

G1 V6.

G3 V.7 W.7 R.7

G1 Z-2. (Z-2)

G2 V7.3 W7.3 R7.3

G1 V4.

G2 V7.3 W-7.3 R7.3

G1 Z [-#520-1](Z-81.0)

G3 V.5 W-.5 R.5

G1 V5.

G0 X50.0

 

Y-21.

G1 X#563

V5.

G3 V.5 W.5 R.5

G1 W7.5

G2 V5. W5. R5.

G1 V6.

G3 V1. W1. R1.

G1 Z-2. (Z-2)

G2 V7. W7. R7.

G1 V4.

G2 V7. W-7. R7.

G1 Z [-#520-1](Z-81.0)

G3 V.5 W-.5 R.5

G1 V5.

G0 X50.0

 

N998 (EXIT BLOCKS)

G52 X0 Y0 Z0 (BUGGER FACTOR RESET)

(***************************)

M176 (SYNC FOR LOWER SUPPORT)

(SUPPORT OFF PART)

(***************************)

 

M09

M05

G49

G28 U0

G28 V0 W0

 

(SUB END)

G69.1

M01

M99

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[Peter - Avivi CNC Solutions]

How difficult them? What kind of operations? Surfacing too?

C-Hook or NET-Hook? Just a thought...

[Peter - Avivi CNC Solutions]

Lemme share what a C-Hook can do. I made some, before few years ago:

 

Here is an example for turning C-Hook:

 

 

 

 

For milling C-Hook:

 

[jeff]

Lemme share what a C-Hook can do. I made some, before few years ago:

 

WOW! Awesome! I could definitely use those here. :unworthy: :unworthy:

[Newbeeee™]

Very neat

[Peter - Avivi CNC Solutions]

THX guys!

Let me mention here Roger Martin and this forum here, they put me on the right (and loooong) way to develope them and many more...

[Craig-B]

I program the smallest part and the largest part, Then I compare the output and use it to write a macro program to run all parts by inputing all the varables needed with speeds and feeds.

 

Example

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:8000(XXXXX MAIN PROG.)

(HEAD 1)

G20

G0G10L2P0X0.Z11.3512

G0G10L2P1X0.Z0.

(===============================)

(ENTER PART # ON MACRO VAR. #500)

(===============================)

G65P1000(PART # MACRO)

(===============================)

M38

M434

M100

M01

M101

N4G0G28U0.(TOOL - 4 OFFSET - 4)

G0G30W0.

M102

G0T0499

M11(CHUCK UNCLAMP)

M25

G50S#100

G96S#101M3

G0G54Z-.04M8

X3.

M51

X1.2425

G99G1X1.0425F#102

Z2.0

G0X1.18

Z-.04

G1X.988

Z1.955

G0X3.

M9

M59

G0G28U0.M5

G0Z[11.9312+#116]

G0T0488

M103

/M01

M104

 

N2G0G28U0.(TOOL - 2 OFFSET - 2)

M105

G0T0299

M10(CHUCK CLAMP)

G50S#104

G96S#105M3

G0G54Z[11.9312+#116]M8

X3.

X.968

G1Z[11.8312+#116]F#106

Z[8.0337+#116]

X1.42

G0Z[11.9312+#116]

X.716

G1Z[11.8312+#116]

Z[10.5112+#116]

X.7974

Z[9.8789+#116]

G3X.8119Z[9.85+#116]R.0612

G1Z[8.0337+#116]

X1.188

G0Z[11.9312+#116]

X.4641

G1Z[11.8312+#116]

Z[11.1104+#116]

X.5581Z[11.0634+#116]

Z[10.5112+#116]

X.936

G0X3.

(===============================)

IF[#116LE0.]GOTO1002

(===============================)

M9

M81

G0G28U0.M5

G0T0288

M106

/M01

M107

N44G0G28U0.(TOOL - 4 OFFSET - 4)

M108

G0T0499

G50S#107

G96S#108M3

G0G54Z[11.7+#116]M8

X3.

X.4016

G1Z[11.7+#116]F#109

Z[11.106+#116]

X.4226Z[11.0955+#116]

X.4826Z[11.0635+#116]

G3X.4916Z[11.0526+#116]R.0154

G1Z[10.4856+#116]

G2X.5069Z[10.48+#116]R.0057

G1X.7042

G3X.733Z[10.4646+#116]R.0154

G1Z[9.8876+#116]

G2X.7439Z[9.8735+#116]R.0246

G3X.769Z[9.8646+#116]R.0154

G1Z[8.0096+#116]

X1.22

X1.3614Z[8.0732+#116]

G0X3.

(===============================)

IF[#116LE0.]GOTO1004

(===============================)

M9

M81

G0G28U0.M5

G0T0488

M109

/M01

M110

N6G0G28U0.(TOOL - 6 OFFSET - 6)

M111

G0T0699

G50S#110

G96S#111M3

G0G54Z[7.98+#116]M8

X6.

X1.42

G1X.71F#112

X1.42

G0X6.

G0G28U0.M5

G0T0688

M112

/M01

M113

 

(===============================)

IF[#116LE0.]GOTO8

(===============================)

N22G0G28U0.(TOOL - 2 OFFSET - 2)

M114

G0T0299

G50S#113

G96S#114M3

N1002(FOR SHORT BARREL T2)

Z[8.0803+#117]

G0X3.

X.8974

G1Z[7.9803+#117]F#115

Z[7.3119+#117]

G2X.8212Z[7.2187+#117]R1.3138

G1Z[2.454+#117]

X.98Z[2.0063+#117]

X1.1214Z[2.077+#117]

G0Z[7.3384+#117]

X.9137

G1X.8412Z[7.2452+#117]

G2X.6624Z[6.7688+#117]R1.3138

G1Z[6.7638+#117]

X.7323Z[2.7157+#117]

G2X.7362Z[2.6936+#117]R.1288

G1X.8412Z[2.3976+#117]

X.9826Z[2.4684+#117]

G0X3.

M9

G0G28U0.M5

G0Z[11.7+#117]

G0T0288

M115

/M01

M116

(===============================)

IF[#116LE0.]GOTO44

(===============================)

N444G0G28U0.(TOOL - 4 OFFSET - 4)

M117

G0T0405

G50S#116

G96S#117M3

Z[8.08+#117]

G0X3.

N1004(FOR SHORT BARREL T4)

X.835

G1Z[7.98+#117]F#118

Z[7.3396+#117]

G3X.8324Z[7.3334+#117]R.0154

G2X.6Z[6.7835+#117]R1.3596

G1Z[6.7781+#117]

X.6699Z[2.7301+#117]

G2X.6752Z[2.7002+#117]R.1746

G1X1.0144Z[1.7438+#117]

X1.2114Z[1.7613+#117]

G0X3.

M9

M81

G0G28U0.M5

G0Z[7.98+#116]

G0T0488

M118

/M01

M119

(===============================)

IF[#116LE0.]GOTO6

(===============================)

 

N8G0G28U0.(TOOL - 8 OFFSET - 8)

M120

G0T0899

M26

G50S#119

G96S#116M3

G0G54Z[11.8+#116]M8

X3.

X.3623

G1Z[11.13+#116]F.008

X.4957

Z[11.23+#116]

G0Z[11.8+#116]

X.229

G1Z[11.13+#116]

X.3823

Z[11.23+#116]

G0Z[11.8+#116]

X.199

G1Z[11.115+#116]

X.4957

Z[11.215+#116]

G0X.6957

Z[11.8+#116]

G1X-.0313

G0Z[11.5091+#116]

X3.

M9

G0G28U0.M5

G0T0888

M121

/M01

M122

 

N10G0G28U0.(TOOL - 10 OFFSET - 10)

M123

G0T1099

G97S#122M3

G0G54Z[11.5091+#116]M8

X3.

X.7

G92X.484Z[10.555+#116]F#123

X.4745

X.4671

X.4607

X.4551

X.4551

G0X.7

X3.Z[11.5091+#116]

M9

G0G28U0.M5

G0T1088

M124

/M01

M125

 

N1212G0G28U0.(TOOL - 12 OFFSET - 12)

M126

G0T1299

M26

G97S#124M3

G0G54Z[11.35+#116]M8

X3.

Z[11.2025+#116]

X.269

G1Z[11.1025+#116]F#125

Z[11.06+#116]

X.219Z[11.035+#116]

X.1836Z[11.0173+#116]

G0Z[11.2025+#116]

X.319

G1Z[11.1025+#116]

Z[11.0625+#116]

X.274

X.249Z[11.05+#116]

X.2136Z[11.0323+#116]

G0Z[11.2025+#116]

X.339

G1Z[11.1025+#116]

Z[11.1+#116]

Z[11.064+#116]

G3X.336Z[11.0625+#116]R.0015

G1X.299

X.249

G0X.1872

Z[11.0156+#116]

G1X.2225Z[11.0332+#116]

X.276Z[11.06+#116]

X.336

G2X.344Z[11.064+#116]R.004

G1Z[11.1+#116]

Z[11.2+#116]

G0X3.

M9

G0G28U0.M5

G0G30W0.

G0T1288

M127

/M30

M01

N1000(START LOAD SEQ.)

M128

G0G28U0.

G0G30W0.

T0100

M10(CHUCK CLAMP)

M37(SHUTTER OPEN)

G04P1500

M65(LOAD PART)

M129

M30

%

 

:1000(PART # AND MATERIAL MACRO)

(SPEED & FEED N2001 OR N2002)

(N2001=ALLOY STEEL)

(N2002=STANLESS STEEL)

IF[#500EQ1001.]GOTO1001

IF[#500EQ1002.]GOTO1002

IF[#500EQ1003.]GOTO1003

IF[#500EQ1004.]GOTO1004

IF[#500EQ1005.]GOTO1005

IF[#500EQ1006.]GOTO1006

IF[#500EQ1007.]GOTO1007

IF[#500EQ1008.]GOTO1008

IF[#500EQ1009.]GOTO1009

IF[#500EQ1010.]GOTO1010

GOTO3000

N1001(CAB)

N1002(CAH)

#132=0.0(LENGTH A)

#133=0.0(LENGTH

GOTO2001

N1005(CAB)

N1006(CAH)

#132=4.2(LENGTH A)

#133=0.0(LENGTH

GOTO2001

N1009(MAB)

N1010(MAH)

#132=4.2(LENGTH A)

#133=1.99(LENGTH

GOTO2001

N2001(ALLOY STEEL)

(N4 TOOL 4 ALLOY STEEL)

#100=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#101=[100*6](SFPM)

#102=[.001*10](FPR)

(N2 TOOL 2 ALLOY STEEL)

#104=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#105=[100*6](SFPM)

#106[.001*12](FPR)

(N44 TOOL 4 ALLOY STEEL)

#107=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#108=[100*6](SFPM)

#109[.001*10](FPR)

(N6 TOOL 6 ALLOY STEEL)

#110=[1000*3.6](MAX RPM)

#111=[100*4](SFPM)

#112[.001*12](FPR)

(N22 TOOL 2 ALLOY STEEL)

#113=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#114=[100*6](SFPM)

#115[.001*12](FPR)

(N444 TOOL 4 ALLOY STEEL)

#116=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#117=[100*6](SFPM)

#118[.001*10](FPR)

(N8 TOOL 8 ALLOY STEEL)

#119=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#120=[100*3](SFPM)

#121[.001*8](FPR)

(N10 TOOL 10 ALLOY STEEL)

#122=[1000*1.28](MAX RPM)

#123=[1./28](TPI)

(N12 TOOL 12 ALLOY STEEL)

#124=[1000*1.28](MAX RPM)

#125=[100*3](SFPM)

M99

N1003(CSB)

N1004(CSH)

#132=0.0(LENGTH A)

#133=0.0(LENGTH

GOTO2002

N1007(CSB)

N1008(CSH)

#132=4.2(LENGTH A)

#133=0.0(LENGTH

GOTO2002

N2002(STANLESS STEEL)

(N4 TOOL 4 STANLESS STEEL)

#100=[1000*5](MAX RPM)

#101=[100*6](SFPM)

#102=[.001*10](FPR)

(N2 TOOL 2 STANLESS STEEL)

#104=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#105=[100*6](SFPM)

#106[.001*12](FPR)

(N44 TOOL 4 STANLESS STEEL)

#107=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#108=[100*6](SFPM)

#109[.001*10](FPR)

(N6 TOOL 6 STANLESS STEEL)

#110=[1000*3.6](MAX RPM)

#111=[100*4](SFPM)

#112[.001*12](FPR)

(N22 TOOL 2 STANLESS STEEL)

#113=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#114=[100*6](SFPM)

#115[.001*12](FPR)

(N444 TOOL 4 STANLESS STEEL)

#116=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#117=[100*6](SFPM)

#118[.001*10](FPR)

(N8 TOOL 8 STANLESS STEEL)

#119=[1000*3](MAX RPM)

#120=[100*3](SFPM)

#121[.001*8](FPR)

(N10 TOOL 10 STANLESS STEEL)

#122=[1000*1.28](MAX RPM)

#123=[1./28](TPI)

(N12 TOOL 12 STANLESS STEEL)

#124=[1000*1.28](MAX RPM)

#125=[100*3](SFPM)

M99

N3000(ALARM)

#3000=10(NO PART # SET VAR#500)

M99

 

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[rchipper]

Thank you all very much. I am sorry for not replying sooner but I have been very busy.

 

Peter,

That milling C-HOOK would make my life so much easier. The part is not too complicated, diameter changes, linear changes and yes there is a simple 120 degree surface that I am stepping down to rough it.

Would you be willing to share with me how these work? How to create? I am fairly new to Mastercam and am eager to learn everything I can.

[Peter - Avivi CNC Solutions]

Would you be willing to share with me how these work? How to create? I am fairly new to Mastercam and am eager to learn everything I can.

 

Sure, but U should know those C-Hooks are the result of 2-3 years learnig and developing. And digging the net and this forum also

I had to start learning eveything from zero, including C++. That's why was it so long. Today I can say, I can put together some similar in

2-3 weeks, based on this development experience. Whit this, I would say it's not impossible but in the same time not easy.

 

For basic (half-)automatized tasks, VBS scripts are enough, but the possibilities are limited.

 

Next level can be the NET-Hook, written in C# or VB. With X7 and with the new NETHook3_0 you have a lot more

functions than VBS scripts, and you can do more, like fancy pop-up windows like mine, do more complex drawings,

auto chaining and auto import (or create) of operations and connect them to geometries.

 

What I used is C-Hook, written in C++. With C-Hooks you get a lot of function (much more than NET-Hook) you

can control basically everything very deeply and that's why it can be difficult sometimes. But at the same time

you get a full control over everything and you can automatize a lot of functions in Mastercam.

 

If one day, when you taste this "power" how you can control Mastercam, you gonna say it's easy and fun...

Hope this helps a little and make some sense to start on a way.

[rchipper]

Peter,

 

Thank you for the information.

Looks like I've got my work cut out for me but I am very interested in learning more. I have a starting point and will move forward from here.