X7 Simulator

[oneyankfan1]

I installed the mu1 on X7 yesterday, it was the first time in a few months that I have used it. I opened an X6 part on X7 that I am in the middle of and right out of the gate I tried to simulate the program and it crashed. So I thought I would use the new tool library on all tool paths, I went through and reselected all the tools from my tool manager library, and regened everything (which X7 crashed about 10 times during that) and tried to simulate the program, no luck it just freezes up. I attached a screen shot to show what it looks like. I have used it before the mu1 and never had these problems what now?

[CADCAM3D5AXIS]

the sim has been acting funny today for me also, and when i see the updating i wait till it finishes and then try the settings it may take a little while 30 sec or so but then it would work. you may have to make sure you save the file before running the sim and also check to make sure the program name and number is the same for all tools i have noticed it hangs up if the tools do not have the same program numbers .

HTH

[oneyankfan1]

it wont even finish with the update, i have had it sitting for about 21/2 hours now and it wont stop, and the program name and number are the same, i dont get it, i even opened a new project, drew a block, wrote a facing path, and it took a stupid amount of time for the simulator to come up when it did after like 30 min i was able to set my default .xml thinking that might be the problem but no luck, i know that x7 will be great if i can get the damn simulator to work, they made all the changes i want and now it wont run.

[oneyankfan1]

THIS CRAP HAS COST ME A WHOLE DAMN DAY!

[crazy^millman]

Redbird or QTE should be getting a call they are your reseller. Sorry it cost you a day, but you pay them to support you and one of them should be your dealer and should be getting a phone call. I am doing 400mb files with 150 and 200 operations with no problem so not sure why you are seeing the issues you are.

[Product Manager CNC Software]

oneyankfan1, Please send in a sample file that is causing these issues to [email protected]. We need to determine if the problem is part specific or something messed up in the installation of Mastercam. 30 minutes to simulate a facing operation isn't exactly what we targeted for the release. We will get to the bottom of this.

[K2csq7]

Put your new sample facing program file thing up here and we can also try to see if it works for us.

[oneyankfan1]

here it is thanks for the help now it only took about 10 minutes for it to start sim but then it froze 2 times in between passes and crashed

FACING SAMPLE.MCX-7

[oneyankfan1]

i appriceate everyones input and help im very excited to use x7 from the fixes i saw on the webinar. Maybe i am just doing something wrong or our IT department installed it wrong.

[PROG_MAN_DO]

downloaded your file and it worked fine for me..

[crazy^millman]

I know what your problem is. You have defined the face mill as the same diameter as the outside diameter. Switch it to a Bull endmill or endmill. You must always understand face mills cannot be the same diameter as the outside diameter. Either way here is the video of your file open and run with no modification from me.

 

http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/5th-Axis-Consulting/media/FACEMILL_zps0c4dbc25.mp4.html

[Product Manager CNC Software]

OneYankFan1: I looked at your file and Crazy^Millman as correct. The facemill you are using has a profile that is not correctly defined. If you save the profile to level and look at it the chain of entities is not contiguous, there is an overlap. If you trim up the geometry it will work fine. The simulator needs to take in that data and resolve the problems itself in order to be able to use the tool, it seems this may be where the problem lies. Even with the problem tool, it opens for us within a few seconds. Try to fix the tool (or create a new one) and see if that effects your performance. If it does not we will look at the files installed with Mastercam.

[oneyankfan1]

thankyou all ill give it all a try it looks like its on my end from what you guys are saying its probably an install issue i let you know what i come up with

[Machineguy]

I have multiple shaped FACE MILLS and CNC has locked it down to 1 SHAPE????

I have to define a square shaped face mill as a BULL NOSE END MIll or it wont Verify ??

What Next?

 

I'll pull up an older program, when I have time, and see if it crashes in the new Ver 7 MU1.

 

Machineguy

[oneyankfan1]

we have roaming profiles in our shop i had another programmer log in under his profile on my computer and his worked fine, i told our IT dep. and he tried a "profile fix" of some kind that didnt work, im sure its a problem on my profile or he didnt wipe x7 out completely and reinsall it ill keep all posted. and the facemill that is in the mcx7 file was created in the tool manager

[oneyankfan1]

just got an email from Brian Ducat at CNC Software he helped me out i had to delete these files while x7 was shut down reopen it and run the simulator and that was the answer.He was alot of help, also thankyou to everyone that gave input i know your time is valuable.

[crazy^millman]

I have multiple shaped FACE MILLS and CNC has locked it down to 1 SHAPE????

I have to define a square shaped face mill as a BULL NOSE END MIll or it wont Verify ??

What Next?

 

I'll pull up an older program, when I have time, and see if it crashes in the new Ver 7 MU1.

 

Machineguy

 

You guys are amazing the tool was not defined correctly and you have not even tried it and already you are throwing in the towel. Just amazing how negative some people can be. He wanted the outside diameter to be the cutting diameter so in that case like it has been for years you define it as a endmill or a bull endmill. Facemill be nature are not meant for cutting again shoulders they are meant for facing operations where you are not going against a shoulder. You want to go against a shoulder what do you normally use? Most of the people understand Shoulder cutters, Endmill, Bull Endmills are meant for that, not Face Mills. If doing that then by their definition you are not using them correctly. Going to change the use of the tool then define it correctly, but you have already given up and jumped on the is sucks bandwagon.

 

Tell you what see what I did here I tried to help. I did not come into the thread to bash or add to the issue I tired to help. You have not tried it you have no clue and do that before coming in and taking pot shots. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.

[K2csq7]

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.

 

And Happy Holidays to the rest of you! ROR!!!

[oneyankfan1]

Millman I still appriciate your help and value advanced members input thanks.

[crazy^millman]

value advanced members input thanks.

 

LOL you said a funny. Advanced nope just trying to earn a living like anyone like I have in my name just a regular person.

[oneyankfan1]

now that i have the simulator up and running IT IS INCREDIBLE! My computer is just FLOORED! it eats multi axis for breakfast! LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE BROUGHT A GUN TO A KNIFE FIGHT!

[crazy^millman]

LOL yes I have been very happy with the positive things I have seen.

[heavychevy2155]

Oneyankfan why did you have to delete those files?

[oneyankfan1]

when i opened the simulator it would freeze and crash or just just sit there all day there would be a little box in the upper left hand corner that read "updating scene in the back ground", now it just HAULS xxxx!