GMT Vises?

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Anybody using these?

 

https://www.glacern.com/gsv_690

 

They look the same as Kurt but for 1/3 the price.

[MIL-TFP-41]

They were ridiculed to death on the Practical Machinist website.

 

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/cnc-machining/glacern-modular-vise-load-horse-304094/?highlight=glacern

 

got to page 5 of the thread and check out post #85. Funniest sh!t I've read in a LONG time.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Okay then, thanks.

 

This guy looks interesting too:

 

http://www.shars.com/products/toolholding-workholding/vise/6-660ur-reverse-cnc-milling-machine-vise-0-0004-1

 

 

It looks very similar to the Kurt Versalock:

 

http://www.kurtworkholding.com/manual-versatilelock-vise-p-1127-l-en.html

 

but at less than half the price.  I like the flat sides and ability to bolt it down with nothing sticking out.  My application is to stick a couple of these on a Haas next to a trunion, for stock prep and secondary ops.  Parts are medical prototypes so no heavy hogging and tolerances are fairly loose (.002").  I know just reading the name (Shars!) is cringe-worthy, but I don't see why it shouldn't work just fine.

[jeff]

Okay then, thanks.

 

This guy looks interesting too:

 

http://www.shars.com/products/toolholding-workholding/vise/6-660ur-reverse-cnc-milling-machine-vise-0-0004-1

 

 

It looks very similar to the Kurt Versalock:

 

http://www.kurtworkholding.com/manual-versatilelock-vise-p-1127-l-en.html

 

but at less than half the price.  I like the flat sides and ability to bolt it down with nothing sticking out.  My application is to stick a couple of these on a Haas next to a trunion, for stock prep and secondary ops.  Parts are medical prototypes so no heavy hogging and tolerances are fairly loose (.002").  I know just reading the name (Shars!) is cringe-worthy, but I don't see why it shouldn't work just fine.

Shars is garbage.

BUT you can get lucky and get a half decent product if you're willing to roll the dice, and quality isn't really that much of a concern.

We bought 8 of their 4" vises from them for $100 each, and have them mounted to a fixture plate. They do the job, but we have to machine soft jaws to hold any kind of accuracy.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

 

 

They do the job, but we have to machine soft jaws to hold any kind of accuracy.

 

What happens, does the solid jaw move or something?

[specv]

Check this out Matthew

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tbgzJeCQQ

[Newbeeee™]

I think they are made by someone like Safeway in Taiwan and re-badged either in the USA, or bought in to their colour scheme.

[jlw™]

I guess price is why your looking. If you're looking for a budget vise for 3 axis work I will say the Shars will be everything you expect. I've got four of them in my personal shop and for 3 axis work I can't imagine spending a penny more.

 

 

 

If budget is not a concern I highly recommend:

 

http://orangevise.com

[civiceg]

I have the low grade Shars vises at home, they are just fine for my Bridgeport. The ones linked are Kurt Copies, I would expect them to be of much better quality, are they Kurts....no. But, there is a reason their "top" level vises are always sold out. 

 

Side note, the Shars 100ish dollar integrated key-less chucks are money well spent. A year or so ago, my work bought 30 of them. Now when a setup guy crashes a chuck, its not a 400 dollar lyndex. 

[jeff]

What happens, does the solid jaw move or something?

No it doesn't move, I guess I shouldn't say you can't hold accuracy with just soft jaws.

But it is all we use because of the production work we do in them.

They are definitely worth $100 each, nice and solid. But don't expect them to be like a $1,200 Chick vise

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Cool.  I'll probably go for the Shars for stock prep and secondary ops.  Now the tougher question: which self-centering vice do I get to mount on the TR160Y?  I know I'll want more precision here but those $3500 price tags are a little painful.

[Zoffen]

LANG!

[civiceg]

 

Shars is garbage.

BUT you can get lucky and get a half decent product if you're willing to roll the dice, and quality isn't really that much of a concern.

We bought 8 of their 4" vises from them for $100 each, and have them mounted to a fixture plate. They do the job, but we have to machine soft jaws to hold any kind of accuracy.

 You got this style?

 

http://www.shars.com/products/toolholding-workholding/vise/4-x-3-93-lock-down-precision-milling-machine-vise 

 

If so that is the type I have at home. Quality is not the best. The 225 dollar/kurt kock off  looks a lot better. 

[Mike@Lustre]

biggest issue I have come across with the cheap vices is the casting quality of the nut is typically pure crap , worked with many offshore KURT copies and they have all failed either in the main casting or the wedge nut cracks in half .

 

one thing I did notice when we where looking for vices for the Robodrill is that the Chick,s where a way better deal for a double vice , plus the Chick has the quick change jaws allowing quicker set-up time between jobs . In the 2 years they have been on the machine we have not removed them once .

 

GS makes a decent vice as well , and AUTO-WELL makes a decent vice , worked with both over the years and have AUTO-WELL in my shop at home .

 

http://www.autowell.com.tw/products.php

[Mr. M]

For the self centering, Lang or 5th Axis. Lang seems a bit smoother but the 5th Axis vice is a bit cheaper and still seems quite accurate.

[jlw™]

I have a strong preference for Lang. The 5th Axis, in my personal opinion is poorly crafted of top notch material. Having said that, I've only had my hands on one 5th axis vise... it was the reason for the Langs in the shop.

[jeff]

 You got this style?

 

http://www.shars.com/products/toolholding-workholding/vise/4-x-3-93-lock-down-precision-milling-machine-vise

 

If so that is the type I have at home. Quality is not the best. The 225 dollar/kurt kock off  looks a lot better. 

That's the style.

Ours don't even say Shars. Just a vise.

Maybe ours is a Shars knock-off... oh god I couldn't even imagine lol

[jlw™]

Tell you what tho, i've got some $14 Sharts indicators off of ebay that I like more than my $180 Mitutoyos.  People always borrowing stuff so I invested in 10 of them and they are smoother and hold up longer.

[civiceg]

And when you drop them, they break the same. I had my mag base fall off a machine with a brand new Shars indicator I had just opened. Broke the indicator after it hit the floor....

[#Rekd™]

Saw these at the CMTS.

 

http://www.forza.es/machine-vices/14/1/0/0