If you got all 32 pallets running why do they need a programmer ?

Won't happen anytime soon, and no not worried either. We don't dial 911

quote: we call the left-laners "xxxx blockers" Sounds like you have driven in LA Chris

quote: I suspect that if this top dog needs a manned second shift to keep the machine running, then he isn't such a top dog after all. Actually 2nd shift is for changing chip buckets and topping off coolant tanks and reloading parts and doing in-process inspection of finished product. 3rd shift is lights out labor free I'm sleeping making money time.

Agreed Sir he can learn. I was just going by his want of a 3 point probe op to set both. He should be able to use 2 ops and be fairly close. 9818 for tilt and 9821 for rotary.

9817 and 9818 are for 4th axis X or Y only

quote: how much turn and how much tilt the rotary table needs to "level" the top face of that part.. he wants 2 things John, I know 2 hits to set rotary on a horizontal but not for 2 position updates at once on tilt and rotate. that's gonna take some serious math ....

It's an option you will need access codes for. IOW you have to pay for that option thru your reseller. You should contact them for pricing.

quote: D'oh! I guess I wasn't paying attention... Part of being a Top Dog would be paying attention to the details my friend. Hardmil, WOOF WOOF nice puddy dog

from Jay's post above quote: you will be doing Valve bodies it's cool work.

quote: axis sub is only correct if the center of the diameter is on the center of rotation. That's why I said to put a spacer under his fixture and raise the surface of the part to the right location. Axis sub will work correctly, even going around the corners.

Solids,Trim,Plane,Keep will give you a section of solid. One way I do it anyway.

Your Welcome Sir

Taper 1.7899 deg./3.5798 is the included angle. Taper is 3/4" taper per foot ( 1 in 16 on the diameter).

Joe, Just delete *sm05 in the pretract section so it looks like this. where the comment says (deleted *sm05 jimmy) code: pretract #End of tool path, toolchange sav_absinc = absinc absinc = one sav_coolant = coolant coolant = zero #cc_pos is reset in the toolchange here cc_pos = zero gcode = zero pbld, n, sccomp, psub_end_mny, e (deleted *sm05 jimmy) pbld, n, sgabsinc, sgcode, "G28", "Z0.", scoolant, e #if lock_codes = 1 & rot_on_x, pbld, n, *sunlock, "(UNLOCK)", e #pbld, n, "G28", "X0.", "Y0.", protretinc, e #if lock_codes = 1 & rot_on_x & cuttype = 0, pbld, n, *slock, "(LOCK)", e if abs(cabs) > 360 & nextop <> 1003, [ if lock_codes = 1, pbld, n, *sunlock, "(UNLOCK)", e rotretflg = 1 pbld, n, 'G28', protretinc, e rotretflg = 0 if lock_codes = 1 & cuttype = 0, pbld, n, *slock, "(LOCK)", e ] absinc = sav_absinc coolant = sav_coolant

I would build a spacer for your fixture and put the radial surface of the part at 8.505 above centerline of the 4th axis. Then use rotary axis on contour op. jm2c

quote: ...? When he doesn't have anything to add to the conversation that is his way of upping his post count and making himself feel better.

I wish we had this Forum back when it went to full associativity from V7.2C to V8.0 then your statement would look like this. quote: There has yet to be a job that we havent been able to tackle with our current version of Mastercam "V7.2C" and i am sure it would be the same with V8.0, but that is not the point. We shouldnt have to constantly find work arounds for software functions that dont work properly. We have been finding work arounds forever. Some just aren't that easy and others are like doh, that was easy. jm2c

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Colin, Wasn't thinking in post mode, big oops pstop calls pretract, it's in there he needs to delete it from V9 MP 9.19 code yeah I was brain fartin on that Joe sorry about that code: pstop # Stop routine pretract pcom_moveb if mi10=one, n, *sm00, e sav_absinc = absinc if wcstype > one, absinc = zero comment if lock_codes = 1 & not(index) & rot_on_x, pbld, n, *sunlock, "(UNLOCK)", e pcan1, pbld, n, *sgcode, *sgabsinc, pwcs, pfxout, pfyout, pfcout, *speed, *spindle, pgear, strcantext, e if lock_codes = 1 & not(index) & rot_on_x & cuttype = 0, pbld, n, *slock, "(LOCK)", e pbld, n, "G43", *tlngno, pfzout, scoolant, next_tool, e sav_coolant = coolant if coolant = 1, sm09 = sm09_0 if coolant = 2, sm09 = sm09_1 if coolant = 3, sm09 = sm09_2 absinc = sav_absinc code: pretract #End of tool path, toolchange sav_absinc = absinc absinc = one sav_coolant = coolant coolant = zero #cc_pos is reset in the toolchange here cc_pos = zero gcode = zero pbld, n, sccomp, *sm05, psub_end_mny, e <<<< delete *sm05 here pbld, n, sgabsinc, sgcode, "G28", "Z0.", scoolant, e #if lock_codes = 1 & rot_on_x, pbld, n, *sunlock, "(UNLOCK)", e #pbld, n, "G28", "X0.", "Y0.", protretinc, e #if lock_codes = 1 & rot_on_x & cuttype = 0, pbld, n, *slock, "(LOCK)", e if abs(cabs) > 360 & nextop <> 1003, [ if lock_codes = 1, pbld, n, *sunlock, "(UNLOCK)", e rotretflg = 1 pbld, n, 'G28', protretinc, e rotretflg = 0 if lock_codes = 1 & cuttype = 0, pbld, n, *slock, "(LOCK)", e ] absinc = sav_absinc coolant = sav_coolant

try this instead, put the # in front of pstop like this code: if (mi10$=one & (op_id$ <> last_op_id | (op_id$ = last_op_id & xform_op_id$ <> op_id$))) | (tlplnno$ <> prvtp & ret_on_indx), #pstop

http://www.free-clip-art.com/ http://www.clipart-design.com/freeclipart.htm couple sites to check out

Get all the programmers together and talk about it. Then find the toughest part you guys have programmed. Now take the print and/or model of that part and ask the salesman to program that part as an example of how easy their software is to use. Make sure the bosses are on hand for this demonstration. This usually kills most of these salesman pitch techniques. See how long it takes. Now ask the boss about spending the money on 5 new seats of software versus spending that money as a downpayment on a new machine. [ 02-09-2009, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: iowajim62 ]

quote: Merge the new file onto a different level and work off of that. how???? Let's say your 1st file and the new 2nd file are using Level 1-10 for your geo. Open the new 2nd file and edit it to use Level 11-20, save it. Now open your 1st file and use File/Merge, navigate to the 2nd file and bring it in. Now you have both files on separate levels that you can turn off and on as needed.

One other way to hold a part like that is to order material big enough to put a window frame around the profile. Then you cut the part all out rough and leave .25 wide tabs around the profile. Then start flipping it and finishing it closer and closer. When you have it within .010 of finish cut the tabs down to .015-.025 thickness and run a final finish operation. I really don't like that material ALOT.