quote: i know its a month away but this will be my first one...Wear your best Nikes.

So oil can beer is popular in Canadac eh. That must be why we're using plastic now. You Canucks used the steel ones up

quote: 10W30 rings a bell lol I think it was 20W50.

Heavy, Was your door interlock key turned to invalid? Been there, done that! Look around the changing arm for a screw to turn manually. Ours is about 2' below the arm and uses a hex wrench.

I had a friend that had family in the Edmonton area and he would bring back beer that was bottled in what looked like the old time Quart oil cans. It was extremely thick and it tasted like crap cold but ok warm. One can of that and I would be wobblin. Can't remember the name.

Biss, You will have to call your machine tool distributor and they will probably have to call the control people but it should be easy for them to do it. We had to go through this to put spindle timers on our machines.

Cory, I was lucky in the fact that the rep was there, therefore the broken drill were free. But I was told by three different people three different process on how to use the drill. That tells me that not much training is going and not much communication either. When a company such as OSG presents new tooling there should be some kind of training for the reps such as who will benefit from the perticular tooling and the process in which it should be used. I couldn't believe my ears when he told me to treat it as a gun drill. I use 3/32" hss taper length drills sticking out 3.75" running at 6655 rpm without any problem. Why should I have a problem with a carbide drill sticking out 2.96" at 10000 rpm? The Chicago office told me to drill it like a regular drill without spotdrilling. I'm inclined to believe that, but at $229 a drill I can't afford to play around with them. Maybe after these drills pay for themselves I will.

Well, we finally got the drills in and tested themn. (Actually three weeks ago, I'm just now getting around to report how they worked.) They came in just in time for a 6063 extrusion job. The rep changed the process to treating the drill as a gun drill and changed the speeds to 10000 at 47ipm. The drill snapped on the first hole. We shortened the drilling depth and the second drill worked but the material was birdnesting so we changed speeds and feeds to try to get the chips to break but was unsuccessful. After that we considered the test as failed but I invited him back the next week to test in 2024 which is what we mainly run anyway. The next test he came back and wanted to change speeds to 8000 at 20ipm. We snapped the drill on the first part. I finally talked him into allowing me to peck the drill halfway into the cut (which I tried with the 6063) and the drill worked. After running a couple more parts he left and asked me to keep him appraised on how it was running since I was a bit miffed at paying $229.00 a drill for 20ipm when I was quoted at 40ipm. We started running production but forgot to reset the speeds to what was tested and ran the next pallet at 10000 at 47ipm. It worked fine so we ran the whole order. At 60 parts on this order we saved $169.00 in time savings running two holes per part. In summary the test was successful in 2024 and I'm sure I can chip break the 6063. Downside is it took 14 weeks to receive the drills so we'll need to keep more spares on hand. I also think the rep was not very good or experienced in field testing. He did say that OSG wasn't prepared for the demand of the exocarb-max Extra-long drills and are scrambling to build more grinders. Everyone of these types of drill are considered specials. Another thing, if you ask for a 30 times diameter drill expect it to drill 27 times deep. The flutes are ground to 30 times Dia.

quote: ...Like I seen the stagetool not to long ago where if the persons machine it had that same tool it would alarm...No worries Ron. The mpmaster post won't stage a tool in the spindle. How are you going to use the HMC? High/low production? Moldwork?

Thanks CAM, I put the four lines shown previously in ptlchg0 into ptoolend. Worked great

Matt, I agree we don't need a lawyer in office. What we DO need is a conservative super (or near) majority in the senate. IMHO the real power is in congress. The president controls the executive orders but congress controls the purse strings. If the people got the wimps (girly men) out of congress a lot more would be done to make our lives better. Let's face it, a lot of the cost of products we consume is because of litigation and extreme conservation. When the goverment won't let the farmers plow their land because somebody saw some ducks in a low lying springtime mudpuddle it costs us money, and right now we do need oil from Alaska if for no other reason to make OPEC lower their prices. I'm not living in my car yet, but if this inflation keeps moving up it's going to get tough.

Up to this year I have been about even. I'm "slavery" as James calls it so my wages go up every year consistantly. But this year I'm paying 70.00 a month more in gas alone. The electric has gone up 30% and I live within 20 miles of two nuclear plants. Natural gas has gone up 50% Food prices have shot up 20%. I can understand the gas situation because we're stuck bying foreign oil but we get our natural gas from Texas. After adding up the real cost of living there's a lot smaller stack of money in my banking acounts. Morgage rates have come down but they were low four years ago. I'm not going to blame the GOP or the Dems, but if we don't do something about the energy situation, next year will be worse than this year.

I'm trying to place mr1 after certain operations which works if I don't have a null tool change. If I do though the mr1 gets placed at the end of the previous operation. How do I fix this? code: (3" DIA FACE MILL FOR ALUM FRONT SIDE) ptlchg0 pcomment2 N116G55X3.27Y-.375(B0.) ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N118Z1.95 ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N120Z1.8 pzrapid prapidout N122G01Z1.634F100. plin plinout N124X-1.6F144. plin plinout N126Z1.568F100. plin plinout N128X3.27F144. plin plinout N130Z1.502F100. plin plinout N132X-1.6F144. plin plinout N134Z1.436F100. plin plinout N136X3.27F144. plin plinout N138Z1.37F100. plin plinout N140X-1.6F144. plin plinout N142G00Z1.95 pzrapid prapidout N144G00Z6. ptlchg0 p__34:1242 (3" DIA FACE MILL FOR ALUM 45 DEGREE SIDE) ptlchg0 pcomment2 N146G56X.1598Y-2.35(B45.) ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N148Z2.2143 ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N150G01Z2.0374F100. plin plinout N152Y1.6F144. plin plinout N154Z1.9605F100. plin plinout N156Y-2.35F144. plin plinout N158Z1.8836F100. plin plinout N160Y1.6F144. plin plinout N162Z1.8067F100. plin plinout N164Y-2.35F144. plin plinout N166G00Z2.2143 pzrapid prapidout N168G00Z6. ptlchg0 p__34:1242 (3" DIA FACE MILL FOR ALUM -45 DEGREE SIDE) ptlchg0 pcomment2 N170G57X1.2357Y-2.35(B315.) ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N172Z1.2187 ptlchg0 p__36:1271 N174Z1.0687 pzrapid prapidout N176G01Z.8918F100. plin plinout N178Y1.6F144. plin plinout N180Z.8149F100. plin plinout N182Y-2.35F144. plin plinout N184Z.738F100. plin plinout N186Y1.6F144. plin plinout N188Z.6611F100. plin plinout N190Y-2.35F144. plin plinout N192G00Z1.2187 pzrapid prapidout N194M05 ptlchg1002 pretract N196G91G30Z0.M09 ptlchg1002 pretract N198M01 ptlchg (NO.0 CARBIDE CENTER DRILL 45 DEGREE SIDE) ptlchg pcomment2 M06T15(NO.0 CARBIDE CENTER DRILL) ptlchg ptoolcomm Note: N144 should be at N168, N168 should be after N192. code: ptlchg0 #Call from NCI null tool change (tool number repeats) if mr1 > zero & opcode <> 3, #all non-drilling ops [ pbld, n, sg00, *mr1, e ] This is where I put the mr1 call. Is there a postblock for the end of operations instead of the beginning of the next?

This used to happen to me years ago on regen and I stopped it (2 1/2D/3D work) but don't remember how. Do you use the tool display on the tool Parameters page in the operations manager? I used to but don't anymore. It might be that's why. [ 07-20-2004, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Tim Johnson ]

I know a person that has one. His runs at 7500 rpm but the coolant flows thru the spindle to keep it cool. If you run dry, you're stuck at 3500 rpm. It also uses grease instead of lube oil. He's owned it for about 4 years and it seems to still hold his tolerances. The spindle is one gear and VERY week at low rpm. The OMD control is very simple but is solid. He seems to have problems with the tool changer and has to have it repaired more than I think it should. It's worth $40k though.

I'm not sure what a controller is. The HMC's I'm programming have FTP sites so the operators can pick several files to send to the directory on the hard drive at once but I don't thick that is the question you posed.? One program file usually has two processes, one on each pallet with an average of 40 to 60 programs.

James, By using the code shown, are you saying that you set mi8 in the first operation and it will stay with all the other ops?

When you say use your control, do you want to add the tool radius/diameter into the control? If so in contour parameters under compensation type use control. Note: when using control in backplot it will show the cutter on the pocket edge but the code will be correct. If you want to input the wear of the tool in your control, in contour parameters under compensation type use wear. This will look like computer comp. but will add the G41/G42 into the code. HTH Welcome to the forum.

I'm going either two or three days, depending on if I go alone or with a group. (I get more info I can use when I'm by myself) I'll spend most of the first day in the tooling building. If X isn't out yet they better have a good sized demo area.

In operations Manager, open up tool parameters, enter tooling comments in comments box. This will put the comment right before the toolpath.

quote: No actually we all are idiot who took this idiot testThe thread header says it all

My 13 year old daughter got 13 out of 30. She wanted me to post her score so here it is.

We run format 2, but IMHO is't not "Fanuc compatability mode". We still use "E00~E48", the macro is completely different, tapping as Teh Crazy Millman put up also is different. I'm at home so I can't check, but is there a chance format 2 is "Fadal mode"?

Our local community collage helped us set up ours. Give yours a call. They may have done this several times.