To Lathe Product Manager

[Don S at Barefoot CNC South]

Ok I want to know why canned rough and finish cycles have not been adressed yet. What is maintenece for lathe going to? I will leave this open for everyone out there in Lathe world to add to its time to answer us! Guys and gals nows your chance what would you want this person to work on?

 

Maybe now we can get some results?

[Todd84]

I agree the only thing we have MC for is Lathe work and when I went to training and asked about canned cycles 3 years ago my instructor said it's better not to do canned cycles they just don't work well. So we pay maintenece and every time we get a new release I hear canned cycles will be fixed until it comes out and they still don't work.

[Bill Martel]

Don S.

Nice to meet you.

I am well aware we have alot of work to do in lathe. I will do what I can as we move forward to fix whats broken and improve what we have.

I'm very interested in the problems people are dealing with in the lathe product.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Well, Let me talk to you about tool numbers changing when you copy an op from one group to another.......

 

I DID get my new Riken center in this morning though...

This is something that should be addressed NOW, not later. This is just flat dangerous.

[crazy^millman]

Ever going to address wait codes for upper and lower turret machines for older versions? Is this only going to happen in X3 or can people with older version expect something from CNC for something I personally feel is way over do. I have already made great strives to do this using Can-Text if you do a search for that thread. I know of 4 different shops that either do not use their lower turret, make programs and then fix them on the machine from Mastercam, or use a different software to program these types of machines since Mastercam is so lacking in even supporting something of this ability.

[tryon]

A roughing toolpath that varies the depth of cut.

 

The SFM option for drilling and milling.

 

Wait code and sync support, but dont stop at just being able to sync dual turrets. There are many 3 and some 4 turret machines out there now. I am programming Nakamura NTY3's. The only useful thing i get from mastercam for these is the guts of the toolpaths.

 

 

Anything having to do with multi turret ect simulation.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

EASIER sync with up to 4 turrets Main and Sub Spindle, (two upper and 2 Lower turrets be sure to enable Y axis on all)

 

Support/Interface for load balancing of turrets.

 

I've always only ever use the rough canned cycle which works from my experience, but throw a finish cycle in there... I hear it gets dangerous.

[Bruce Caulley]

I never used MC lathe, so I need to ask:

 

If a function/toolpath/icon does not work and has been producing "dangerous" code for several versions, why is it still there?????

 

Bruce

[crazy^millman]

Can we please have the ability to change a feed rate and coolant options without all operations after them going dirty?????

[Don S at Barefoot CNC South]

I had a lathe job yesterday, changed the corner radius in the groove bottom on the mcx file and regenerated the path and the feed rate changed to IPM 200 instead of IPR .002, needless to say it went un noticed.

[Guest SAIPEM]

It could be worse.

For the past year I have been forced to use SolidCAM lathe.

 

Mastercam Lathe is LIGHT YEARS ahead of SolidCAM Lathe.

[crazy^millman]

Yeah Don who in the world feeds their lathes tools in inches per minutes verse inches per rev. That one thing is probably the biggest thing about lathe that drives me crazy. IPM. I only use this for Bar pulls, feeding drills in and out at a M05. In 20 years I can not think of a time I ever feed any lathe tools at IPM for cutting operations how about yourself???

[ToolMan184]

I would like to have lathe. But, when I hear the horror stories here, I just cant justify getting it. We put it in our budget every year but I refuse to buy and then pay maint. on something that is a POS. I changed from ESPIRIT to MasterCam. If need be I will change again.

[Kyle Waters]

How about supporting synchronous drilling using the live tool and the chuck? While I am here, is it true that the custom posts for the MT2000-type machines will not be supported? I am getting ready to say yes or no on the maintenance, and this will be a large part of it.

[crazy^millman]

It was said the posts will be supported in a different thread.

[Kyle Waters]

Thanks Ron

[jesselathe81]

As long as you dont mind the need to check enter and exit moves,mastercam lathe is a good investment

[DavidB]

Lathe Backplot with verify ticked that works!

I sent a file to QC friday on just this problem.

 

Wiper Insert geom.

 

+1 A rouhing cycle that changes the depth of cut and also chip breaks.

 

Easier method of programming a stop for bar feeding.

 

Create solid to 2D profile that is accuarate and does not take 30min to create.

 

 

Bruce canned roughing works its the finish pass I never use and I would not recomend anyone to use!

[Chris Rizzo]

yeah, some kind of peck roughing / chip break would be great. esp. for the plastic work out there.

[Mick]

Kyle, synchronous drilling (chuck w/ live spindle) is supported. Our MT post processor has that option, and it was supplied by CNC Software.

[Kyle Waters]

Thanks Mick.

Was that requested specifically? I am just wondering if they put it in all of the posts, or I need to request it.

[Randy Morton @ Clem Industrial]

Again, realizing I might be pi$$ing in the wind on this one, and also realizing the Brett and myself went thru this to some fair detail, but the post outs have never worked properly for Canned Cycles. The G70's crash. They always have. Brett and I working together tweaked it a bit so that the canned cycles will not crash, but at the same now produces some other errors (less dangerous, but still not right). Persay on the first line of a G71 it puts in a G0 (or G1) X Z. There cannot be a Z. Then the ref. point retract doesnt work.

 

So with this I take my pick, G70 crash, or a few lines of code I have to edit to make my machine not alarm out. I am not busting on Brett for this at all, cause he worked very hard to try and resolve this, but I think it stems from a higher area. CNC needs to address this.

 

It would be just dandy if the line numbers worked properly.

 

And, as Ron said (2 things), IPM from lathe tools should go. It's just stupid to even have the option. And the getting rid of the lathe toolpath update. As said, you update a coolant or a feed and it dirty's all ops!?!?! How stupid is that? Why doesnt mill do it then? Change the lathe so that doesnt exist!

 

*Rant Off*

[QAZEWQ]

Feed rate from finish path is only going to be posted in rugh can cycle when you post finish (G70) after rough ,and you miss it if finish path a couple of tools ( processes ) below.

[Columbo™]

Had an issue not long ago.......

 

Changed the width of a groove tool in the insert page and found out the hard way that it did NOT update/change in the too clearance button in the parameters page........part scrap....

[BrianCNC]

I have my lathe posts configured so the canned cycles output correctly by storing the start location of the tool before the rough cycle is called and then positioning the tool there for the finish. The only problem is I have to use the finish canned cycle before I use another rough canned cycle because it saves the position of the last roughing cycle. So I can not rough the OD then Rough the ID and go back and finish the OD I have to Rough OD, Finish OD, Rough ID, Finish ID.