X4 MU1 Crash Regenerating Toolpath

[Mjölnir]

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I work exclusivly in X4.. I'd uninstall

X2 and 3, but I'm scared I'd break something

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I uninstalled X2 and X3 after installing X4 MU1 and have had zero problems. 90% of what I do is surfacing (not 4 or 5 axis) and I use almost all of the surface toolpath types available (high speed and regular) and don't have any crashes or corrupted files.

 

I do keep CAD/CAM workstations quite lean in regards to installed software and hardware. They're called workstations for a reason. They're not multimedia / Internet / entertainment stations, that is what your toy computers at home are for. That is by and large the biggest problem I've seen in the various companies I've been in that had computer problems, too much crapware installed by people with less than rudimentary knowledge of systems administration.

 

However, there is the usual plethora of bugs (new and old) to work around. That's cool though. It would "feel" very very wrong if Mastercam didn't trip you up numerous times during the first month or two after a new release or update.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Remember, were talking about and error

 

"opening temp folder' = software mapping glitch.

 

How can my video driver be at fault finding a

folder that MC is looking for.

 

Maybe when changing setting in the config file

MC get all confused because some work and some

dont. if one thing in there has issues mapping

, going the proper route or what have you, the

software is in need of fixing.

 

Time to get in to the architecture and bring it

up to date or find a way to make it work for

everyone. OR how about a refund if it I have to stop using X4 because of this and go back to

X3?

 

Waiting until X5 for stability is not an issue!

X5 WILL have problem, so then I have to Wait for Z5 MU1?? Whats that a year down the road?

 

Maintenance will then be considered a sham because

the bugs will never get fixed for each version.

 

Separate maintenance from bug fixes!

That should be CNC's next protocol. Period.

[The_Evil_Machinist]

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I turn the memory buffer to 75 %, he said using

99% is a problem

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Huh mine is there too and I don't have any problems. Although I have my virt machine set at 8Gb of memory though. I guess I'll change that.

[Mjölnir]

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2. run a reg cleaner

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I was reading some posts earlier in the thread and missed that.

 

You run a registry cleaner?

 

Dayum!

 

I can't think of a more efficient way to thoroughly hose a system than by doing that.

[The_Evil_Machinist]

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I can't think of a more efficient way to thoroughly hose a system than by doing that.

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[Thee Rickster ™]

Anubis, I am having the exact same problems on

my P.C. at home that I put in a brand new feshly

formatted 10k raptor clean install as of 3 weeks ago.

 

It has never seen c cleaner

This machine has.

I agree I don't like to use it.

 

I format every 6 months whether they need it or not.

[Müřlıń®]

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t is the PCI drivers fault, not Mastercams...most likely the video...

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When I said it was a video driver issue I did not mean that you could fix the problem. IMO, the only way to fix this problem is to get a different mainboard.

 

Or get a video card with massive memory so that when Mastercam regenerates its toolpath and writes it on the screen at the end of the regeneration process, you actually have enough RAM on the card to handle all that and the PCI does not have to call on the Page...

 

...then hope and pray that the toolpath you just crunched does not take also call on the pagefile...

 

Let's see..

 

 

XP 800 meg...

 

I/O possibly 1 GIG...

 

Mastercam file 500 megs...

 

Mastercam memory allocation...75% 2.5 gig...

 

system memory 4 gig but XP only uses 3...

 

Ruh Roww....Houston we have a problem....

[Mjölnir]

Rickster, are you using UNC paths in your Mastercam configuration?

 

E.g.:

 

filesrvsharenamesomeburieddowndeepsubfoldername

 

I seem to recall you or someone else posting that you did.

 

I avoid doing that even though network resources are now browseable from within the Mastercam configuration dialog. Have had problems doing that in the past which were resolved by mapping remote folders as drive letters and haven't done otherwise since.

 

Perhaps that is causing some of your problems?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Mapping for the Temp folder error is on my C: drive

 

I can turn the server off and work to my desktop and still the same issues

 

All my problems are software related

 

Rick

[peon]

Defragging the hard drive solved the temp file problem for a week. I defragged again after a couple temp file crashes and so far I don't have the temp file crash yet. Back in VS 9 I had been in the habit of defragging weekly. Maybe that should be a common practice.

[Mjölnir]

I agree the software is, umm, in a less than ideal state at this point in time to put it nicely. I'm just trying to throw things out there that may help.

 

Methinks the whole Mastercam plus machine and control definition configuration ordeal is one giant overly complicated clusterf**k.

 

Are your problems reproducible with default Mastercam configuration files and box stock generic machine and control defs?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Right now using a new config file.

 

I am getting 1 crash out of 8 paths.

 

Remember, save before regen every time.

 

Also clear out your designated temp folder because

even though MC is supposed to, it doesn't.

 

Keep the ideas coming, only forum members on

emastercam have chimed in to help.

 

Thanks

Rick

[Mjölnir]

Mastercam wipes the temp (sub) folder when it exits cleanly. When it crashes all bets are off. Yep, is a good idea to check the temp folder after a crash.

 

If it's not being cleared on a clean exit then some other process, like AV or indexing software has a hold of it. I avoid that potential problem by listing the entire Mastercam hierarchy, as well as some other important directories as exceptions in the AV software. There's no reason at all AV software needs scan files written to and read from Mastercams temp directory.

 

The file indexing services I disable. I know where my stuff is, I don't need the computer to find it for me. Feh.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Any idea where in AVG pro that is?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Alright, the error opening temp folder is back.

 

I sent my file at the CNC.

I had a max feed has been exceeded.

That means I forgot to check full virtcle retract

on one path.

 

So I changed it and it crashed.

and now it constantly does it again!!

 

I am at a loss once again.

 

Rick

 

[ 11-11-2009, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: Rickster ]

[Mjölnir]

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Any idea where in AVG pro that is?

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Nope. I don't use AVG. Should be an exception list somewhere in its configuration.

[[email protected]]

Rick,

You have mail

[Thee Rickster ™]

Thanks Kieth.

 

I am doing E.C's on some X3 and X2 files

today. Back on X4 this after noon

[Thee Rickster ™]

Darn it, I just got the error in X3 MU1????

 

brought in the new Geo and it dirtied 7 path.

hit regen....

 

It processed for 20 minutes then the error came up.

 

Now what. I guess i am going to try messing with the page filing as Murlin suggested.

 

Rick

[The_Evil_Machinist]

It sounds like a good old fashoned, time for a reformat.

[Thee Rickster ™]

I set my page file back to the factory default.

 

2092

4092

 

restarted my p.c.

 

I regen the first rougher path....good

the nest waterline .... good

 

I hit save...

 

The next was a waterline rest pass....error and crash.

 

I don't know if the save crashed it or the

waterline rest.

 

I am going to clear the temp folder and restart

generate all but the rest paths one at a time

and save then try to make a new est path rather than regen it

 

If that works I will make all of then new path

and save..then try to regen the others for ships

and shingles.

 

Rick

[Thee Rickster ™]

I turn off my anti virus also on this last attemp.

 

I got through all the paths and saving in between each one at a time.

 

I think I have already tried disabling my AV last week though and still it crashed....what ever works

right now is all that matters

 

Rick

[Thee Rickster ™]

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It sounds like a good old fashoned, time for a reformat.

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Didn't help on my p.c. at home

[Thee Rickster ™]

Great sucess.

 

I copied all the cutter paths from 1 machgrp/toolgp

to another.

 

Changes the common parameters clear/retract to 2".

reselected the mach def and changed file name.

 

Reselected the new geo replaces it in all the surfaces paths.

 

Got through 6 paths so far.(saving between each just in case)

[Thee Rickster ™]

Just crashed again.

 

Anubis, can you explain file indexing as

I don't believe I have any installed, but you never

know.

 

Thanks

Rick