X4 MU1 Crash Regenerating Toolpath

[gcode]

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I copied all the cutter paths from 1 machgrp/toolgp to another.

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Rick, when you copy a toolpath from one group to

another, try this.

 

Use Edit Selected Operations/Change NC Filename

and edit the operation to match the new

Machine Group BEFORE doing any edits, geoemtry

selections or regens..

 

If you don't, the NCI file is still linked back to the

OLD Machine Group and that might be the cause

of some of these problems

[Thee Rickster ™]

Good Tip.

 

I believe the order i did it was as follows:

(my standard procedure)

 

-Create mac/group, tool/gp

-highlight pats in 1st group

-right click drag to new group

-repick mach/def

-pick new tool/gr with newly copied path/change NC

filename

-save

Start editing common and indiviual tool parameters

along with selecting new geo.

 

This is how I do copied paths from one group to another. I used to import right from the file

I'm working in. Either way it has always worked.

 

The x4Mu1 error is my nemesis.

 

I get all the good ones eh?....

 

[ 11-11-2009, 02:56 PM: Message edited by: Rickster ]

[Mjölnir]

Rick,

 

re: Indexing

 

Is enabled by default during a Windows install.

 

1st;

 

My Computer -> right click local disk drive -> properties -> uncheck "allow indexing service to index this disk for faster searching" -> and let it do its thing. May take a while depending on the amount of data on the disk.

 

2nd;

 

Turn off Indexing service and prevent it from starting automatically at boot up.

 

Start -> Run -> services.msc

 

Scroll down and find the Indexing service. Stop it. Right click on it -> properties -> set startup type to disabled.

 

I also disable system restore from the system applet in the control panel. Then check to make sure the service is indeed off in the services console. That [insert four letter word for feces here] causes nothing but headaches and uses resources.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Anubis,I have done all this on my p.c. at home.

i am gonna try to start and finish a mold this

weekend I should by grammin by tomorrow

 

i let ya know my progress

[Thee Rickster ™]

Well, I haven't had a crash in 10 hrs straight programming

 

I think the solution to this problem was setting

the anti virus to avoid all MC folders and since

disabling windows indexing, Zero Crashes.

 

I am back in business now.

 

[ 11-14-2009, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Rickster ]

[Thee Rickster ™]

So much for that. It did it again.

 

I am gonna have to find more stuff to turn off I guess.

 

I did forget to empty my temp folder though....

[Thee Rickster ™]

Now I am at work, just defragged my C:drive

 

and i just got the error again.

-windows indexing - off

-anti virus - off

-cleared temp folder

-etc.

 

Goning to reboot, AGAIN, See if that helps

 

Frustrating as he!!

 

Rick

[Thee Rickster ™]

Rebooting didn't help now I am screwed

 

I a have been trying to make a path for 2 hours

and have had 5 crashes and no paths.

 

So now I am convinced they changed something

From X4 T X4 Mu1 that they either cant remember

what they did or there it is buried so deep

that they cant do anything about it

 

What ever it is I am getting nothing done today

and I might have to stop using X4 all together and

go back to X3 if THAT one doesn't start doing it.

X2Mr2, who knows.

 

maintenance....what does this actually mean????

 

Rick

[The_Evil_Machinist]

Is it only this file?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Every file I open or start anew.

 

Working with CNC on it today and we 'MAY' have narrowed it down to Moldplus ...but everything

I have tried usually only works for a brief period

[[email protected]]

Any news Rickster?

 

I've only had 2 crashes today. Sent 1 in, didn't send the second one because it was same as 1st

[The_Evil_Machinist]

Ok, this is funny. This is my 1000th post and I am here to report that I just got that crash on my mac's.

 

Irony is not lost on this one...

 

Lost about 4 hours of work. I thought I had auto-save on but nope.

 

Go ahead and laugh. It's ok. I boasted about my mac's and they did the same thing. All on the count of 3 we commence laughter.

 

1..2..3....

 

DOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!

[gcode]

Evil,

check out the backup utility

on the Files page of System Config.

 

Of course it won't help much if you

only save once a day

[[email protected]]

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Posts: 1000 | From: Lost in the dark abyss that is the internet | Registered: Jun 2008 | IP: Logged

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You talk too much

[Müřlıń®]

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Go ahead and laugh. It's ok.

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ok.... ROFL hystericlly...

 

 

No.... j/k it sux for anyone to loose work...

 

 

But I swear I had an SIS chipset that wouldn't run Mastercam worth a crap...I think it and my Video driver had a conspiricy against me....

 

Sure hope ya get it figured out Rick. I hate to see anyone having the aggravation you are having...

[The_Evil_Machinist]

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Of course it won't help much if you

only save once a day [big Grin]

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I just updated my virtual machines to win 7 so I forgot to set that when I did the clean install.

[Thee Rickster ™]

The best news I have is that I checked my permissions a an administrator account and it

seems that they are not as permissive as you might think.

 

earlier today i opened and old X2 Mr2 Sp1 (in ver X2)file and guess what

happened half way through my changes and regenning.

 

I got the error.

 

-dbl click my computer

-click tools /folder options and scroll to the bottom

-uncheck use simple file sharing

 

Then

 

-right click local C: drive/properties

-click the security tab

-click on your user name

-under allow all the boxes have to be checked

-if not click on full control then they all will

-hit apply and wait till done

 

then above the administrator user another

admin/your user name will appear and repeat

those steps to make sure you have full control

 

now when you right click any folder like your mcamx4 folder , hit properties/security you can click on each user name and all the (allow)full control boxes will be highlighted.

 

Before i did all this only some of the boxes wer checked under allow.

 

I formatted and setup windows and installed all my software with administrator permissions

and for some reason have less control then I thought

 

Check it all out ppl

 

once again so far so good

why did all this start with X4 MU1, i don't know.

 

I had CNC tech for a few hours sharing my desktop today, trying to sort stuff out.

 

I'll keep ya posted

Rick

 

BTW i processed 6 path while type this post

[Dan@home]

Rickster I had the same problems back in X2, never found a fix though. Yes keep us posted.

 

Thanks,

Dan.

[Thee Rickster ™]

I am starting the day with all my 'Full control'

setup properly.

 

Let the games begin!

I won't be gramming till this afternoon

[Zoober]

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I formatted and setup windows and installed all my software with administrator permissions

and for some reason have less control then I thought

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Rick, when you installed, did you do so logged in as Administrator, or as you with admin rights?

 

I think that if rights are an issue, you would be better served to take ownership of the root of mcamx directory than to "just" assign permissions. That way, any future files and or directories created will assign full rights to you (owner).

MS permissions can be a little crazy, with assigned vs effective rights, and what is trickled down as files and folders are created.

I hope you have it sorted out...

[peon]

Rick, did anyone explain to you why this all happened with X4 and not the previous versions of MCAM? I never had a problem with that error till this past release.

[Thee Rickster ™]

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Rick, when you installed, did you do so logged in as Administrator, or as you with admin rights?

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I was sure I did it all as administrator, but I did

have a user name as myself, that I don't remember

creating. Either way i DID Have to allow the

permissions on both p.c.'s here at work and at home.

 

So far so good. I am designing for the day today

and I will be back at gramming a bit this afternoon

or tomorrow.

 

Peon, No. They just ask if it fixed the issue

which I won't anser untill a few week of grammin

and no error.

 

Rick

 

[ 11-17-2009, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: Rickster ]

[peon]

Ok, I guess I'll just have to wait and see if CNC will have any recommendations in the next few weeks. The error has dropped dramatically on my end, but I still get it now and then.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Hold the show, just got it agian on an X2MR2Sp1 file.

 

It has to be a widows security update.

 

Maybe CNC can look into that.

 

Well I am out of ideas and at my wits end on this.

 

Rick

[gcode]

did you turn Restore off??

That solved the problems I was having in X2