HSM Feedback

[PE @ IHS]

Could anyone that is trying out the CIMCO HSM pack please provide some feedback? I haven't had a chance to cut any metal with it yet, and would appreciate some more opinions on the product.

 

(spending Saturday night on Emastercam, babysitting 3 toddlers......I need a beer (and a life!)

 

Thanks

 

[ 09-27-2003, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: Peter Eigler ]

[crazy^millman]

I tired it out and it looks cool but seem to take a while and just had not had the time to look at it anymore. I think it would be a great product but the sticker shock well I can use that for other thing needed in the shop.

 

Crazy Millman

[Müřlıń®]

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(spending Saturday night on Emastercam, babysitting 3 toddlers......I need a beer (and a life!)

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I am running back and forth between 2 buildings 5 miles apart keeping 2 CNC's going on a hot job....

 

*****reaches in the fridge and pops the top on a Miller Light*****

 

*****offers one to Peter****

 

***Gulp*****

 

 

AHHHH........much better

 

 

Well got to go make the "rounds"....hehe

 

 

Murlin teh burning up the highway tonite....

[crazy^millman]

Yeah Murlin I am back at the shop waiting on some bondo to dry so i can flip this model. I would take one of them beers but dont drink anymore been drinking my Dr. Pepper so I toast you sir.

 

Crazy Millman

[Müřlıń®]

Nuthin wrong with Dr Pepper

 

Whew....the end of a long day...err...week...err..man its late and I'm beat...Got to get a couple hrs shut-eye and do it all over again tommarrow...

 

 

Murlin teh zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Scott Sizemore]

I've been using Cimco HSM for about 5 weeks now. The motion of the toolpaths are really nice and smooth, what I mean by that is all the paths always enter the material in a helical fashion. Tool path calculation is unbelieveably faster than normal MC, and is is also pretty darn stable. One of the biggest rewards is the leftover paths in roughing and finishing, it calculates it about a 1/4 of the time and usually has a great result from the start. We do a ton of hard milling on molds and I'm not quite sure how we got along without this add-on.

[Müřlıń®]

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the paths always enter the material in a helical fashion

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leftover paths in roughing and finishing, it calculates it about a 1/4 of the time

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Wow very nice

 

Ok you sold me

 

*****searches for Cimco HSM*****

 

Murlin teh must get a quote on this

[crazy^millman]

Ok scott now I may have to eat my words about that. I will got back and take a look and see maybe in the 100 thing a day I do around here didn't give it the proper chance. I will let you know Peter.

 

Crazy Millman intrest peaked again.

[Scott Sizemore]

MillMan, try it your gonna like it!!

[Jody]

We have cut a few jobs with it. The leading on and off the part is great. It also eliminates dead stops in corners and rapid moves. It will follow the contour of the part in rapid moves. It does not work well with the WCS yet. and you can not use check surfaces. But it does put out nice toolpaths and is it fast. Does not give you much time while it is crunching numbers to come here and read up.

 

Jody

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

The leftover toolpaths are super fast! We are going to start running some test toolpaths this week hopefully.

 

From what we have seen so far it looks like we will be including it in our high speed/tooling seminars

 

Jimmy

[mayday]

error: boundaries are not supported for 3+2 machining

error: toolpath generation failed

 

can anyone tell me what this error means?

I am working in the front C/T plane WSC is at top

pocket roughing, simple square box for boundry

[mayday]

I rotated the solid to top C/T plane and got no errors.

does this mean HSM does not support cplanes outside the top view???

[Jody]

May^Day,

 

I believe that is correct is does not support anything in a different plane that top yet.

 

Jody

[mayday]

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I believe that is correct is does not support anything in a different plane that top yet

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well.... if thats the case I'm waiting. the world isnt flat. dont wanna be 1 sided ya know

 

so far I like what I see. smooth cuts and excellent transition between cuts. I get minimal retractions in pocket ruffing which I have always had to fight with in the standard ruff pocket. Iv'e got some basic models I will continue to experiment with. your on the right track Cimco

[mayday]

the filter function dont seem to be as good as MC filter. getting really l o n g programs. got em all checked too. anyone else see this??

[Jody]

The long programs are because of lead in and outs from what I have seen. I also tightened up the tolerances when use it which would make a longer program. We use sneakernet (when ever possible) to get the programs to the hurco's. And drip feed only if we have to so I do notice the longer programs. I get a lot of griping from the guys 'it doesn't fit on disk. do i have to download it? can you do somthing it make it fit on disk? ' such fun!! these are the same guys that turn the spindle speed down because it is to whinie.

 

Jody

[mayday]

finish parrallel im MC generates a 91k nci file

in HSM it generates a 600k file

 

I noticed there is no edge control,even with lead in/out arcs it should filter it dont you think?

[PE @ IHS]

Thanks for all the feedback....keep 'em coming. I also noticed the lack of arc filtering.

[Müřlıń®]

I just got a 30 day trial licence from my reseller and installed it. But I cant figure out how to get the DLL to install......

 

No arc filters.....bummer.....

 

Murlin

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

copy the .dll and .txt file from the programshsm... to the mcam9chook directory

also your 30 day code needs to be there

Jimmy

[perfecseal mankato]

I did kike how fast it calculates, and does the transition moves. The arc filtering does not seem to work as well as mastecams arc filtering.

[Karl Oram]

When you first install the product it goes into C:Program FilesMastercam HSM Performance Pack.

The first time you run the PGM use the Alt C the riffle through the directories to the installed directory and launch from here. It then will ask you do you want to install this into your Chook Directory. From then on it runs from your Chook Directory. For anyone who didn't know there is a user guide.pdf and tutorial.pdf also installed to the C:Program FilesMastercam HSM Performance Pack also.

 

Regards Karl

[perfecseal mankato]

may^day,

I also am having arc filter problems with this.

sent a file to my reseller and they will get back to me. I sent a file to them with mastercams filtered toolpaths. mastercam nci file was about 740kb, hsm nci 12.5 meg. There tool paths had some arcs, but not like mastercam. I know 12 meg

is not all transition moves!!!. Both had basically the same stepovers , etc...

[Christian Raebild]

I would like to add my comments on two details here. The 3+2 toolpaths (including boundaries) looks like they are working correctly in the latest "experimental" build of the Mastercam HSM Peformance Pack, so they should be in the next public release build, which should be out very soon.

 

We are aware of the arc problem, and we are looking to solve that problem.