Last week we got 4 H13 rings (7.501 +/-.001 ID)back from heat treat all twisted up and scrapped. I had discussed a month before how they were supposed to be done....even got an outsource quote that stipulated ...rough turn to within .20/side ....heat treat to 62 rockwell ...finish grind to size....The higher powers vetoed the idea and turned them all to size hoping they would stay within tolerance....I have spent more time doing the NFG reports and inspection reports of each part for the customer explaining what went wrong and then reinspecting the parts again to prove that they were wrong...(someone had to see it with their own eyes)....that I just wish they had listened in the first place

He cant tell you....or they will be forced to kill him

So what's the Problem? dont ya just hate it when your right and no one listens?

You cannot regress a file if it is an X3 file...or X2 to X ....etc...they do not move the toolpaths back ...even the simple ones....Its the same with Solidworks 2009 to 2008 and so on...you cant roll them back either.

Check your 3 planes that are in the options of the tool path Are your construction and tool planes set in the toolpaths to the direct path of the tool .... ie right, left, angled holes (set views) ...your wcs should be set to top and not match these if you are working in the 4th axis

tis on its way back and I lost we need some real Mastercammers on this one and not a hobbiest like myself....JOHN!!!!!!!!!.....JAY!!!!!!!!!!!....gCODE!!!!!!!!!!!!...JAMES!!!!!!!!! Need a little help in here

If you dont have any propriatory problems could you send me the file or an abridged version....im sorry I cannot reproduce this with anything I have here. I have tried and still cant make it do anything like what you are describing even when changing views, Z depths or what not.....just trying to help

quote: Watching something like that turn would almost be hypnotic. You'd be running what... 20 rpm? About 2 to 3 rpm ....and that is fast

My appologies for being rude Welcome to the forum and Thank the forum ...They taught me this stuff... Glad to help

Wow!!!!!!!! Thanks for that James!!!

prv_workofs$ I believe is what you are looking for to output the E01 or E05 etc ....its just finding where to put it as I dont know what the output looks like. can you cut and paste the header to the screen here? looks something like this peof$ #End of file for non-zero tool - Output of time calculations for the last tool and total time ptooldata #Total ending data for tool (Path Length and Times) #Supress Program totals if only one tool or no output selected if tcnt > one & (fr_limits | xyz_limits | show_lengths | time_est), [ sepline3, e$ " ", e$ #Blank line "Program Totals (", *tcnt, " Tools):", e$ sepline, e$ #Output the separator '----' line #Output Max/Min Feedrate information if fr_limits = two | fr_limits = three, [ "Feedrates: Max = ", *pmax_fr, " Min = ", *pmin_fr, e$ #sepline, e$ #Output the separator '----' line ] #Output Max/Min X,Y,Z information if xyz_limits = two | xyz_limits = three, [ preadbuf1e #Read Buffer 1 (get X,Y,Z extents of entire program) pMaxMin #Output Max/Min X,Y,Z coords for entire program #sepline, e$ #Output the separator '----' line ] #Output Feed/Rapid path lengths if show_lengths = two | show_lengths = three, [ "Total Feed Cut Length = ", *llen_total, e$ "Total Rapid Traverse Length = ", *rlen_total, e$ #sepline, e$ #Output the separator '----' line ] #Output Rapid/Feedrate times if time_est > 0 & (det_time = two | det_time = three), [ ttltime = tot_rtime "Total Rapid Time = ", ptimeout, e$ ttltime = tot_ltime "Total Feed Time = ", ptimeout, e$ #sepline, e$ #Output the separator '----' line ] #Output Cycle Time information if time_est = two | time_est = three, [ ttltime = total #Transfer TOTAL program time "Cycle Time = ", ptimeout, e$ #Program Total time output ] ] [ 02-19-2009, 10:15 AM: Message edited by: Jack Neelands ]

FIRST!!!!!!! *Make a copy of your orignal post and squirrel it away before editing* ptlchg$ #Tool change pcuttype toolchng = one if mi1$ = one, #Work coordinate system [ pfbld, n$, *sg28ref, "X0.", "Y0.", e$ pfbld, n$, "G92", *xh$, *yh$, *zh$, e$ ] pbld, n$, "M01", e$ pcom_moveb c_mmlt$ #Multiple tool subprogram call ptoolcomment comment$ pcan result = newfs(15, feed) #Reset the output format for 'feed' pbld, n$, *t$, "M6", e$ <<<---tool change pindex sav_absinc = absinc$ if mi1$ > one, absinc$ = zero pcan1, pbld, n$, *sgcode, *sgabsinc, pwcs, pfxout, pfyout, pfcout, *speed, *spindle, pgear, strcantext, e$ pbld, n$, "G43", *tlngno$, pfzout, scoolant, next_tool$, e$ absinc$ = sav_absinc pcom_movea toolchng = zero c_msng$ #Single tool subprogram call This is what is in the MP master (note the arrow that says tool change)and the locations that you have comming up after the M06 have been modified to be there ...can you seperate them with another line? This is on the second line outputed by pcan1, pbld, n$, *sgcode, *sgabsinc, pwcs, pfxout, pfyout,

Im going to be reading for weeks Thanks guys for that priceless tidbit

I hear Crickets....Is it night time there Daniel? Sorry bad comment....there are few that will chime in ...just give it a few days

Stick postit msgs with the words over the icons on the screen? Tell him that support for version 9 is dwindling fast and that most of the "Old Cammers" are playing with the beta's

Did you need some work?...When will it be commissioned? I got some little stuff here that is only 140 inches in dia that needs to be done

Ok Im trying to make some sense but cant figure out why its offsetting your dimensions to begin with....you set them to the depth you want and away you go...are you constructing in 2D or 3D?....that is the only thing that might knock things off on you that I can think of

There is also the learning curve that everybody will have to go through as well....So if your production is running at its peak now and you need to slow it down for a bit I guess you can afford to replace all the seats and start all over again. Just my 2 cents

Welcome to the forum I did a quick model and came up with the same results as you did trying desperatly not to utilize any multi axis toolpaths and no luck ...sorry I think the guys are spot on about It being a Multi-axis path

Im sorry I helped you...oh wait...that was another thread

Im sorry I helped you...oh wait...that was another thread

I have Solidworks 9 and X3mu1 and no issues...sorry

You can get Core Pins from DME that might be what your looking for ...If not....Try H13 and turn it rough to size then harden to 60-62 rockwell

sounds about right actually...our .875 drill does about 1800 rpm at 22 inches a min.... ummm make sure you are out of the way of the chips....they come off like bullets.

lets see ...30 seconds for 3.5 inches...hmmm......best guess 1 min 20 seconds for 8 inches the tool should pay for itself in machine time saved