Mastercam Graphics Questions

[JJ_8]

/get back to apples to apples, use surfcam, edgecam and gibbs as examples instead of a cad package please./

 

 

I gave the example because no one charges extra for HOOPS and no one makes it an add-in. Decent graphics are similar to expecting to get tires when you purchase a new car or truck.

 

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[gcode]

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e-Drawings. Price for standard version = Free

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thats one of the reasons regular SolidWorks owners

pay 25% of retail purchase price in annual

maintenace charges. Hoops DOES NOT give thier product away. Somebody always pays the frieght....

 

and as mentioned ealier..eDrawing is not CAM or even CAD.. its just a viewer.. it is pretty though

[Guest]

All this BS about this graphics and that graphics neither Camworks nor Tek-Soft can hold a candle to MCAM ability and flexibilty and both run Inside of Solidworks so all the pretty pictures don't mean jack **** if you can't get the job done.

 

And isn't THAT what we should be discussing?

[JJ_8]

Why do you want to discuss competitors products when we should be discussing how to improve Mastercam. Others in this thread have stated Mastercam needs plenty of improvement. I have already mentioned graphics, user interface and backplotting as areas badly needing improvement in Mastercam.

 

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[Guest]

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Why do you want to discuss competitors products when we should be discussing how to improve Mastercam.

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I don't believe for a minute you're legitimate.

 

I am leaning towards a competitor looking for quotes so he can present them to his potentials as "gospel" of said product being better.

 

I don't believe you want to discuss any other products CAM because they can't stand up to the close scrutiny.

 

You want to prove you're legit?

[Kannon]

and I was gonna save the popcorn for the game today....

 

oh well...

 

:POPCORN

[gcode]

a reincarnantion of JB perhaps??

[MIL-TFP-41]

I am willing to bet that this guy, hiding behind a proxy, is also this guy

 

He is really prolific on usenet...likes to quote press releases like he wrote them. the HOOPS thing is yet another example of this

[JJ_8]

Seems like you and a few others will do anything to try and change the subject or derail the discussion. Other cam products are simply not relevant and do not need to be compared to Mastercam in order for a discussion to take place on where Mastercam needs to be improved.

 

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[Guest]

And who are you to be discussing these "supposed" needs to improve?

 

Are you a licensed user? This site is for licensed users.

 

and I'll ask again now since you seems to have skipped over it.

 

Want to prove it?

[JJ_8]

You have attempted again to derail the discussion of improving Mastercam and make it personal. Not going there. Sorry.

 

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[Guest]

OK, so now I'll ask openly for you to provide your SIM#

 

You can email to the webby

[andrewgore]

So you're trying to get him booted because of the possibility of not being a licensed user? Ok, so maybe his method of trying to change things with mastercam is a bit unorthodox. Who cares if he is for another company. Is anyone here going to honestly tell me that Mastercam couldn't handle some vast improvements? Maybe if the bulk of the people are doing 2d or 2.5d work, it may be fine, but try doing something in Mastercam that has .0001" stepdowns. Enjoy your white screen, and drink your coffee. I look like a bum at work because of how long I am sitting here in front of a white screen.

I know every cadcam package has its own issues. mastercam is no different. It was the same for WorkNC and UG when we tested that stuff out. However, both of those programs had things that I wished Mastercam would have. Yet they had certain downfalls that we weren't so hot on. Not only that but yes, we've got a lot of money invested into Mastercam. The problem is that you watch all these other companies making greater improvements over less time, and with less errors.

My question is this. If mastercam is as they say...The most sold cadcam package in the world. Then why they heck don't they invest in more people for development instead of putting it on resellersend user to findhelp fix their problems? Pony up and show that you (mastercam) is actually trying to keep with the times.

 

Honestly, this is why I still keep an open eye for other packages on the market. Look at what happened when the now solidworks guys split off from Pro-E. Great things happened. I do not doubt for a minute that the same thing will happen for cadcam setups. Enough frustrationspassion will lead to a better product. So lets stop turning this into a glorified pissing match. Like I said before, let's post up our exact problemsgriefs with something to support our claims. It worked with Nasioc (subaru forum for those that don't know). Enough of them were in agreement about stuff and wouldn't you know it...subaru changed some stuff en lieu of this.

 

This will also help people that are struggling with certain problems that are maybe not getting a quick response from QC at Mastercam. Create a sticky on the board. Something along the lines of "Common problems....Solutions". Work together guys.

 

Andrew

ps, if any questions my mastercam license, i'll gladly post up any one of our 5 or 6 hasp licenses for them

[Guest]

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ps, if any questions my mastercam license, i'll gladly post up any one of our 5 or 6 hasp licenses for them

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Has or did anyone ask you about yours?

 

I don't agree with the way you go about things when you're having problems but it is obvious you are having issues with the USE of Mastercam. That to me says you are a user.

 

I KNOW who this fool is, I knew the other day.

 

We don't need him around here, his well known internet behavior will NOT be tolerated and he knows it, he's already been taken to task over it but now he is trying to stir his sh*t pot up and not get caught at it.

 

Andrew you've been around here long enough, you KNOW we and all discuss every bit and bellyache, for days sometimes about the issues we have.

 

This fool has a different agenda, do a google search on the name Jon Banquer

[gcode]

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Then why they heck don't they invest in more people for development

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at the last users group I was told that Mastercam

has added 100+ people to thier developement

staff in the last 2 years. That's a huge increase

for a company of this size.

Everybody rages about how pretty SolidWorks is

and they are right. SW2008 is awesome but...

load up SW2008 on your 2 year old computer

and open a decent sized assembly. That old box

is going to roll over and die.

You'll be surfing over to Dell.com, spending $4K

on a new workstaion if you want decent performance

from SW08.

Everything has a price.

Pretty cartoons= more horsepower=more $ = slower

toolpath crunching. I would hate loosing proccessing time for pretty pictures

[andrewgore]

I remember seeing his name on here before. I'm just curious what you don't agree with in my method of problem solving with mastercam. If I have a problem, I search on here first to make sure it's not a common problem. If I find it's a unique problem, I contact my reseller and QC at mastercam. I send them a z2g file or whatever. If I find a recurring problem that doesn't seem to be addressed, I ask on here if anyone else is having an issue with said problem in hopes that someone might be listening. The hasp thing was just in case someone felt I was trying to cause a ruckus or I didn't follow forum guidelines.

 

Time to meet with a customer and drink some more coffee

 

Andrew

 

edit: Quick edit about the computer prices. I still don't understand why people are buying up dells and 4k$ prebuilt machines. Any halfway decent IT guy could put together a custom computer. For that price, goodness you could probably take over the world

[Guest]

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I'm just curious what you don't agree with in my method of problem solving with mastercam.

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If you go back and read some of your stuff, I think you'll agree you come with hat in hand but you have your guns a blazin'

 

I always thought you got more bees with honey than vinegar, that's all

 

[JJ_8]

The Techsoft HOOPS graphics engine would create much better and much faster graphics for Mastercam. Also, you would not need to regenerate the display anywhere near as often.

 

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[andrewgore]

JJ, I don't have to regen my screen really at all. I'm using probably the cheapest quadro card from NEWEGG.COM

I even have running on monitor #2 Firefoxaimzuneexcelcalculator or whatever else. A good little workhorse of a card imo. That might help you out.

 

Andrew

[mold100]

quote:

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Everybody rages about how pretty SolidWorks is

and they are right. SW2008 is awesome but...

load up SW2008 on your 2 year old computer

and open a decent sized assembly. That old box

is going to roll over and die.

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Gcode,

rflmao - thats very true, you can speed it up a lil if you turn off the realview, it defaults to on especially if your using a card that supports it. It is trying to apply photorealistic rendering to your model while your working on it. I have a 2.4 dual core P4 built by xi with 2gig ram a quadro fx1500 and it will BOG. but my CAM package looks outstanding for a CAM package.

[JJ_8]

/at the last users group I was told that Mastercam has added 100+ people to thier developement staff in the last 2 years./

 

Licensing the right graphics engine component is more cost efficient than trying to create it yourself or hiring lots of employees to do it. This is why everyone licenses Techsoft HOOPS.

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:squawk:

Got try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

Gotta try HOOPS, Gotta try HOOPS

:squawk:

 

 

[Guest]

Send your SIM# off yet?

[Thee Rickster ™]

mind if I chime in with a question?

 

CNC apps, JP and Gcode

 

I have the fx1500, i just installed the latest

driver package 162.65_quadro_winxp2k_english_whq.exe

 

Now my little icon by the clock is very tiny and

when I click on it I don't get the big list of cad

softwares to choose from.

 

Did I install the right package?

Should I roll back to the old driver that I had.?

 

Every things seems ok though.

 

Rickster (aka licenced MC user with maintenance.)

 

Mr. Rickster is my real name

[gcode]

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I still don't understand why people are buying up dells and 4k$ prebuilt machines. Any halfway decent IT guy could put together a custom computer

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I gave my IT guy my specs and let him quote it.

He could not beat Dell on price and a little guy

cannot come close to matching Dell's warranty.

$150 buys you 3 years of "in your office"

parts and labor.

They come to you with the parts and fix your machine within 24hrs of your intial phone call.

If you want to pay more, you can bump the 24hrs

to 4.

[Guest]

Rick,

 

I am currently running a GTS8800 so I have a different driver package, however, if you're running fine I wouldn't worry about rolling back. I would only consider this course of action if you encounter issues that you cannot get your settings to settle down.

 

One think about graphics is it is NOT always best to update to the latest graphic driver.

 

Generally if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

Licensed huh?

 

 

You sure