X3 Verify

[Michael Sullivan]

I added it to another thread but wanted to make sure it was seen.

 

Verify is significantly faster in X3 even when using STl files.

 

It's Awesome! Thanks CNC!

 

The file I was working on last week in X2. Running verify was like watching paint dry.

 

The same file in X3 is 3-4 times faster at least.

 

Pick a file and do a test. I ran them both side by side and was amazed.

 

[Redfire427]

Yes, I hear it has improved. They now say it is more like watching a wet dog dry.

[john W M]

Fatal error occurred verify/simulation exit and

try reduced image quality. This has happend more than one time with same programe. But Verify is significantly faster and I do like it so far.

 

Thank you CNC!

[Colin Gilchrist]

The faster verification is due to some OpenGL settings that CNC tweaked. There is a switch in the Configuration file that lets you turn this enhancement off.

 

If you have a file that won't verify or is crashing the system, try turning this switch off and run it. The performance will be back to usual 'X2' speed, but it will be more reliable.

 

JWM, this might help with your problems...

[john W M]

Will check that out. Thank you.

[Guest]

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NVidia GForce 7300 GS

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I am going to bet that's your issue right there.

 

It was a decent card but it is several years older now and since I see your running Vista I believe you would be MUCH better served by updating it to something newer and "designed" for Vista.

 

Also, if you have turned off the "Desktop" composition previously when running Vista, for X3 you can turn it back on.

[john W M]

I plan to upgrade this fall. Just been putting it off then maintenance & 5 axis used all my allowence. Can't even buy Fable 2.

[Tyler Robertson]

great to see people noticing this enchancement - it caught me off guard too when a part took 4 times less time to verify, great

[Thee Rickster ™]

It re refreshes very quickly after or during verify.

It also zooms in less choppy.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Not sure if you all noticed it or not, but if you have a 3D Navigation device (SpaceBall, SpaceNavigator, SpacePilot, etc...), you can dynamically rotate WHILE it is verifying without having to stop it.

[phil darcy]

Does x3 now have 5aes verify included?

[shazam/TPP]

yes phil

[Michael Sullivan]

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If you have a file that won't verify or is crashing the system, try turning this switch off and run it.

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You had to say that didn't you

 

I have a file that's giving me a headache now. Where is that switch?

[Michael Sullivan]

come on guys.... throw me a bone. I'm dying here.

The file won't even open up in X2 anymore.

[Colin Gilchrist]

Settings | Configuration | Verify | Verify Settings (click the pluse sign in the tree)

 

Turn on the 'disable hardware acceleration' check box...

 

HTH,

[Michael Sullivan]

Thanks Colin!

 

I will try that first thing tomorrow.

[Colin Gilchrist]

Hope it works for you. You might need to start from the beginning of your verify session if you are using an STL for Verify. What I mean by this is that you might have a bad STL file that was created from a previous verify session, and you might need to start with a block, or a solid, and start verifying your operations from the top down...

 

HTH,

[john W M]

When I verify full program no problem just when I save a STL for next opperation when I get to opp. 3 problems start. I save STL after each opp. to save time.

[Michael Sullivan]

It worky now! WOOHOO!

 

Thanks again Colin. The STL file I am using has been filtered by Verisurf Reverse. The original one was WAY too BIG and would just kill Mastercam Instantly

The filtered STL has someminor problems because the filtering cost me some quality. I filtered it to .001 tolerance and it cut the stl by 2/3.

 

with hardware acceleration on, Mastercam says it cannot fix the "bad polygons"

With the disable hardware acceleration checked it has no problem

 

Although, It is as you said.......back to X2 speed but at least it's working

[shazam/TPP]

Have any of you noticed if you have multiple groups in a mcx file and once your done verifying one of the groups the screen flickers thru the remaining groups with the verify window still on screen but blank flickering on and off?

[shazam/TPP]

bump

[sharles]

I'm just curious if with X3 verify being faster does it also support bigger files? I normally have to make work arounds on my 200MB files to get any of it to verify. For the roughing programs I make a special "verify" roughing with a big step down (1/2" or so) and I can NEVER use my finish scallop programs, so I make a parallel program that steps over in only 2 axes with a large stepover...just so I can get some semblance of a verify.

[Programinator]

This is all good being faster but it still does not open up with the right stock sizes and stick even when you have use last checked. you have to click use stock size almost every time you verify. I thought that would get fixed in x3.

[Jayson Kramer]

Shawn, so you are saying for example, I am working on a project starting lets say Monday and I am programming every day and reopening the file every day, that I should have to reset the stock size to verify?

[Programinator]

Jay Kramer @ Precision,

 

No im saying EVERY time you go to verify.....even if you have not closed and reopened mcam. check these threads.

 

thread 1

 

thread 2