Post Writing Class?

[Sandybar]

Anybody know of any Post writing class or seminar. I would like to know more about Master Cam post and its properties. I wrote many post for Smart Cam for years, but we migrated to Master Cam and I have tried to modify post and have had sucess with the little things but no real good luck on the bigger things.

 

Any help fo me?

[MACHINEMASTERG]

ask your dealer for the post cd or a class in your area

[Mark H]

CNC software Inc (Mastercam) in Conneticut, USA usually holds some classes, but I just looked on their web site and didnt see any scheduled for the immediate future. You could try your local Mastercam reseller, maybe they do or know of someone who does.

[Rekd™]

There's also a fairly descent book on posts. It may be outdated for current version of MC, but most issues will be covered. Also, if you've done other posts, or any kind of Basic or Visual basic, you can look through MPMaster.pst and get lots of good ideas.

 

HTH

 

'Rekd

 

[ 03-10-2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Rekd ]

[ksoufi]

thanks Rekd

I'm currently using CAMPOST to develop posts.

telle me please, where do i find MPMaster.pst?

 

[ 03-10-2003, 12:57 PM: Message edited by: ksoufi ]

[Rekd™]

Here

 

'Rekd

[PBpaul]

Rekd

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There's also a fairly descent book on posts.

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Can you tell me what book you're thinking about?

 

Thanks- PBpaul

[Sandybar]

What book the one offered on Master Cam web site?

 

I will look at the MPmaster.pst for ideas.

 

Thanks

[Philcott]

I have a book called "post processor for mill, lathe & wire"? It is for V6 and was put out by CNC software in September 1997. It is outdated on some stuff but still useful to me. It's book code number is ISBN 1-883310-00-8. I believe we got it when we purchased V7 a few years ago from the training center in Gig Harbour Wa.

 

Good luck.

 

Phil

[perfecseal mankato]

Your local reseller should be able to hook you

up with a post cd. The cd is very helpful when writing a post.

If you do much post work it is worth it.

[Rekd™]

Phil got it, thanks phil.

 

Post CD? Where's mine?!?!?!?

 

'Rekd

 

[ 03-10-2003, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: Rekd ]

[PBpaul]

I got the post CD from my dealer and it does have TONS of information on the MP post processing language. However, it states right off the bat that it is not intended to teach one how to write post processors!

PBpaul

[McRae]

I smell freshly cut grass - who is trying to mow the lawn of the VARs and other postmen?

 

Its like this - If I show you how to do my Job, then what would I do? Is this the reason there isn't many VARs offering post classes? To use and overcome the limitations of software, one must be able to write/modify post processors.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Andrew,

 

I don't think it's as much as the VAR's not wanting to show people how to do it, I think it's probably more of a liability thing, and there's probably only 10% or less of the programmers out there actually competent(sp?)enough to comprehend what they are being taught.

 

JM2C

[Charles Davis]

I get some requests for a Post class, and have wanted to put one on for years. The problem is the demand is small, and the up-front work (time, money, effort) to develop such a class is large.

 

I think that is why most dealers don't put on a post class -nothing nefarious about it...

[mark l]

James

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there's probably only 10% or less of the programmers out there actually competent(sp?)enough to comprehend what they are being taught.

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Boy that would probably offend somebody IF it wasn't true

 

I have done just enough post work to make an existing one fit my machines, doing this by trial and error, but it's all Greek to me.

 

[ 03-11-2003, 07:42 AM: Message edited by: mark l ]

[Fig sign]

There are a lot of programmers also who can not read

G-code!

 

[ 03-11-2003, 07:48 AM: Message edited by: plasttav ]

[Reece L Gibson]

I offer a 3-day post class on a contract basis.

About 10 percent of my students want to take it. Get 5 people to come to Kansas City and well do one at your time.

Matter of fact I have 2 people ready right now here in KC.

[Allan Brown]

I used to teach a post class here at In-House. Over the years I've seen Mastercam broaden and deepen, the machine tools get more complex, and the posts get far more intricate. I've polled former students on their efforts following the class. Most say that their eyes were opened to what is possible, but in many cases still contracted us to do the work, having already paid for the training to do it themselves.

 

Although there will be exceptions (e.g. full-time Mastercam Champion handling support and customization for a large number of seats in a large, potentially multi-facility company) I generally find that for our customers the quickest, most cost effective route to a customized post is to have us take on the work. If you're using Mastercam, your job is likely to generate NC programs. For most new customers, worrying about editing your own post takes away from learning Mastercam itself.

[Sandybar]

Millturn,

 

Count me in for a post class/seminar email me with cost and approximate times.

 

Thanks

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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There are a lot of programmers also who can not read G-code!

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Is this a problem? Count me in there. If I had to write an intricate manual program to save my life..... I'd be dead. I honestly don't see the need for it. Our posts are so dialed that the code they produce requires ZERO editing.

 

I know enough G-Code to do a fair amount of post work.

 

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Although there will be exceptions (e.g. full-time Mastercam Champion handling support and customization for a large number of seats in a large, potentially multi-facility company) I generally find that for our customers the quickest, most cost effective route to a customized post is to have us take on the work.

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Our company is like that. There are two of us that are competent Post guys. Our faclilty has 8 seats of Mastercam. 6 are mill level 3, 1 is a Mill Level 1, and 1 is a Mill Level 2. We have 1 Haas Mini Mill, 5 Thermwood 5 Axis Routers, 5 Mori Seiki Horizontals (adding 2 more in 3 months), 2 Mori Seiki Lathes with Live Tooling, and 14 Cincinati VMC's. It's more practical for us to do it ourselves at this point. Unless of course we add a different 5 Axis Machine in which Case we will contract the services of our VERY competent Reseller. But as Dave stated, we are the exception and not the rule.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Oh,

 

Something else. I DO teach some Post Stuff in my Advanced Mastercam class. Just the basics, nothing exotic and it's beyond most.

[HEAVY METAL]

I'm having trouble with my dealer coming off with the post cd.Everytime I ask about it he says he will send it to me,but I have not seen it yet.They have a guy who does post work for them and I get the vibe that the want me to come to then for post work.I have done a lot of tweaking myself with help from you guys,but that post cd would sure be nice.

 

heavy metal

[Charles Davis]

Like James, we introduce post processors to students in our extended night classes. This serves two purposes: the student understands how mastercam goes about generating code, which de-mystifies this processs, and it allows them to make simple post mods.

 

Not to overstate the case, but beyond that, making your own post processor is like building your own refrigerator: sure, you can do it, but it will cost more than what you can buy one for, and it probably will look like hell and won't work that great either.

[Camdude®]

we offer post training classes at least once or twice a quarter to our customers. it is a basic class that will get the user started on the post editing techniques. i prefer the customer to be able to handle his post issues him/herself. (less work for me ). we do charge for post edits but that happens rarely as our sales guys usually use the post edit charge as a throwaway during the sales negotiations. i have been to mastercam's post class in tolland, ct. and it was very informative. the new post CD is also a good source of info but will not teach how to edit a post. contact your dealer to see what is available in your area. if you arenot satified with the answer then go directly to CNC Software

to what they can offer you.