Turn Profile

[Guest]

Wondering if anyone has tried the new turn profile in X5?

 

It has looked good from what I have seen.

 

 

It will use the solid information instead of calculating a rotating part, very fast on the parts I have tried and creating straight lines and arcs.

[Colin Gilchrist]

It is wonderfully clean from what I've seen. No more little chamfered corners!

 

On some parts I've tested it is up to 100x faster than X4...

[SKIR68]

I used it for the first time last week, but I could only use it for roughing. The profiles it created were not straight enough for the tollerances i had to hold! Maybe i need to tighten up the tesselation Tol.???

 

 

[gcode]

I've used it on a couple of simple parts and it worked well

[Watcher]

Nice to see this in X5...

 

5 years ago I witnessed Mastercam losing a benchmark in Germany to Pro/NC and UG because of the lack of tools to generate "hüllerkurven" (Envelope curves)

The old tool (Before X5) failed miserably to generate the rotational envelope for a simple landing gear... it also has some bugs that were fixed in X2 I think...

 

Good for MC users... this is an important feature for MillTurn programmers...

[Tony35]

i will have to look into this.

i have been using slice in X4 with good results, spin was just not good enough for the tolerance i need to hold

 

does the old style coolant work in lathe for X5?

[SKIR68]

Ive used it some more, and I program for a mill-turn and think this tool is ver helpful! You have to tighten the tollerance up to .0001 to get it to produce straight lines but its very fast and easy!

"Spin" works great!

[Etrain]

I used it for the first time last week, but I could only use it for roughing. The profiles it created were not straight enough for the tollerances i had to hold! Maybe i need to tighten up the tesselation Tol.???

I agree! X5 Turn Profile still needs work. I am importing parasolids from Solidworks. Lines are not straight even after tightening tessellation tolerance.

[Guest]

Did you use the solid properties box?

[Etrain]

Did you use the solid properties box?

I tried with and without. Did not notice a difference. Lines are comming in at a slight angle.

[mayday]

Maybe i need to tighten up the tesselation Tol.???

That is the option I don't get??

can you say pefect match? why would anyone want an option to degrade the profile.

besides that I use it a lot (when it works)

[SKIR68]

Good Point Wes, I havn't had any negative issues with it yet, other than tightening the tollerance. It would be better if it were a perfect matc, at least i wouldnt have to go back and double check to make sure the profile is good!

 

 

[jeff]

What does this do exactly? Turn profile.

Is it for mill/turn?

[SKIR68]

It gives you the profile of the solid, without having to draw it out. Its alot faster than drawing it out, just not exactly accurate.

 

 

[SKIR68]

I use it for lathe.

[Etrain]

Good call on the not exacly accurate!!

[Guest]

Well, my experience was pretty good with it.

 

You guys still seeing issues are you sending your examples into either your reseller or QC?

[Etrain]

Well, my experience was pretty good with it.

 

You guys still seeing issues are you sending your examples into either your reseller or QC?

I did send some info to QC. They replied back and told me to use slice.

[Bob Hedrick]

When using Turn Profile in X5, it is strongly suggested to have 'Use solid properties' checked. When this is checked, you should get a clean, exact profile very quickly most of the time as the software is using a Parasolid kernel function to directly compute the profile from the solid entity. In some instances, the Parasolid function fails and the software reverts to the 'old' method. Generally in these cases you will get a Parasolid kernel error message box first. The reason for the 'Use solid properties' checkbox is that a small percentage of our test files computed very accurately and much faster using the 'old' method. Note that even with 'Use solid properties' unchecked, you will get better results in X5 than you did in X4.

[K2csq7]

When using Turn Profile in X5, it is strongly suggested to have 'Use solid properties' checked. When this is checked, you should get a clean, exact profile very quickly most of the time as the software is using a Parasolid kernel function to directly compute the profile from the solid entity. In some instances, the Parasolid function fails and the software reverts to the 'old' method. Generally in these cases you will get a Parasolid kernel error message box first. The reason for the 'Use solid properties' checkbox is that a small percentage of our test files computed very accurately and much faster using the 'old' method. Note that even with 'Use solid properties' unchecked, you will get better results in X5 than you did in X4.

 

I have encountered one of these "instances". Lines on straight OD's & ID's are coming in at a slight angle.

Anyone have a fix?

[K2csq7]

 

^^^ From X6 MU2

 

:edit:

Same error code in X5.