Whats the better processor

[Programinator]

Looking at getting a new mobile workstation for mastercam 2019.  Looking for advise on the processor

these are the specs:

• Windows 10 Pro x64 Operating System
• Intel i9-8950HK, Six Core 2.9GHz, 4.8GHz Turbo, 12MB Processor
• 64GB NECC RAM 2666MHz
• 8GB NVIDIA Quadro P4200 Video Card
• 512GB PCIe M.2 Solid State Hard Drive (OS)
• 512GB PCIe M.2 Solid State Hard Drive (DATA)

The other option is the get the same specs but with this processor:

• Intel XEON E-2176M, Six Core 2.7GHz, 4.4GHz Turbo, 12MB Processor
• 64GB ECC RAM 2400MHz

The xeon setup costs $100 more than the intel i9 which is nothing compared to the overall cost of the whole workstation.  So what do you guys believe to be the better of the 2?

Thanks for your input.

[Mark VIII]

I would get the i9

[jeff]

Mastercam loves clock speed. Get the processor with the highest clock speed that you can afford.

Look at my signature, that's an example of a good,fast clock speed.

[gcode]

lots of cores is good

processor speed is better

[Programinator]

Thanks.

• Windows 10 Pro x64 Operating System
• Intel Core i9-8950HK, Six Core, 2.9GHz, 4.8GHz Turbo, 12MB Processor
• 32GB NECC RAM 2666MHz
• 4GB NVIDIA Quadro P2000 Video Card
• 512GB PCIe M.2 Solid State Hard Drive (OS)

 

OR

 

• Windows 10 Pro x64 Operating System
• Intel i7-8850H, Six Core 2.6GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo, 9MB Processor
• 64GB NECC RAM 2666MHz
• 6GB NVIDIA Quadro P3200 Video Card
• 256GB PCIe M.2 Solid State Hard Drive (OS)

2nd one is $500 more than first one.  which would you choose?  obviousely the 2nd is better but is it $500 better?

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

First one looks better to me.  It's faster and has more cache.  The second has a better video card, but that won't affect toolpath crunching time.

[Frank Caudillo]

Not trying to jack this thread, but it's very closely related to my own dilemma: trying to spec out a new mobile workstation off the shelf from Dell.

As far I can tell, I've only been able to spec Xeon chips for their mobile workstations and the E-2176M had a pretty decent single thread rating.

Here is a comparison between the E-2176M and the i9-8950HK. The single thread ratings are fairly comparable (2624 for the i9 vs 2505 for the Xeon), but I have no grasp of how much performance difference that really is. All other comparisons between the two do not show much of a difference.

I understand the biggest Mastercam loves clock speed, but would it be all that bad to get a Dell mobile workstation with the Xeon?

Edit: I spoke too soon about being able to spec a Precision Mobile Workstation with only Xeons. That same i9-8950HK is available for them off the shelf. I guess my question still stands though: If the two chips are that close in performance, would a Xeon be more durable over the lifespan of the computer?

Edited October 5, 2018 by Frank Caudillo

[Grimes]

you guys are buying computers my boss would have a heart attack buying. my comp which i picked out personally doesnt have anywhere near the specs youre speaking of :(

[Frank Caudillo]

1 hour ago, Grimes said:

you guys are buying computers my boss would have a heart attack buying. my comp which i picked out personally doesnt have anywhere near the specs youre speaking of

Unless you're doing really simple programming work, you're most likely losing out on a lot of productivity. Even my desktop workstation, which is 4 years old and was built with pretty good components at the time, is costing me probably an hour or two per week of productivity. 

[gcode]

15 hours ago, Frank Caudillo said:

I understand the biggest Mastercam loves clock speed, but would it be all that bad to get a Dell mobile workstation with the Xeon?

this is a good place to get real world data on computer specs and their effects on Mastercam performance

 

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[jlw™]

An i7 rig is likely going to cost quite a bit less as well as perform better.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

If you want the best bang for your buck (performance per dollar) you REALLY don't want to be buying a laptop or "mobile workstation".  They're much more expensive, thermally throttled, shorter lived, and far more difficult and expensive to repair or upgrade.  If you build a desktop you can put together an overclocked screamer for under $2500 that will serve you well for at least three years, passably for five, and will keep trudging for eight.  Due almost exclusively to thermal dissipation limitations a laptop will have severely limited performance and is likely to burn something out in less than two years.

[Programinator]

Ended up getting a Dell mobile workstation.  I need to be able to travel otherwise I would get a desktop. 

Now I just need to get a duel monitor setup.  Any suggestions. I'm thinking the 

Dell U2417H UltraSharp 24'' LED

These are the Specs of the dell laptop:

• Windows 10 Pro x64 Operating System
• Intel i7-8850H, Six Core 2.6GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo, 9MB Processor
• 32GB NECC RAM 2666MHz
• 4GB NVIDIA Quadro P2000 Video Card
• 256GB PCIe M.2 Solid State
•  

[Frank Caudillo]

27 minutes ago, Programinator said:

Ended up getting a Dell mobile workstation.  I need to be able to travel otherwise I would get a desktop. 

Now I just need to get a duel monitor setup.  Any suggestions. I'm thinking the 

Dell U2417H UltraSharp 24'' LED

These are the Specs of the dell laptop:

• Windows 10 Pro x64 Operating System
• Intel i7-8850H, Six Core 2.6GHz, 4.3GHz Turbo, 9MB Processor
• 32GB NECC RAM 2666MHz
• 4GB NVIDIA Quadro P2000 Video Card
• 256GB PCIe M.2 Solid State
•  

Let me know how this works for you. Is it a 7530/7730 by chance? I was eyeing that one but some review said that heat could be an issue for it so I'm also looking at Lenovo's P-series mobile workstations.