Thanks for the invite Jimmy. I'll see if I can get away for a day and get back to you. Thanks everyone for all the advice!

Thanks for the resources Daniel. I hope I can figure this out without going to grad school! But hey... a masters would up the payscale! I know my reseller has a post for this but I like to learn this kinda stuff the hard way. My first attempt at a 5x post was the modded Gen5x salted to taste for a ISO side Heidenhain TNC430i on our Hermle C600u. As I said, it works great but no spatial or kinematics (TCPM). When we first bought Mastercam here the Hermle guys sold us on a program called CAMplete. Its a verification/posting program designed similar to vericut. It works but it's a little flaky on the surface paths and sometimes the nci file. The verification is read by the code (not .nci) and the output is Heidenhain Code with all the spatial commands. I myself like to learn so I challenged myself to develop a MC post. I'm halfway there with a working post but I want to take it to the next level. Does the Gen5x support these kind of functions or is this write-in math?

Thanks for the feedback guys! I know I will probably bug the crap put of Barefoot before this is over but a good jumping off point always helps. I've seen the G7 output on the Millplus but I haven't figured out how to incorporate the Cycle 19 or the M128 in my Heid post yet... we just put origin at the COR and we're done. I'd like to learn how to do that b/c the parts we will run on the DMU will need some kind of spatial rotation feature and just to learn in general. Are there any tutorials or documentation that covers this in depth?

Would it be difficult to modify my Hermle post? Both are Heidenhain controls only the DMU is a Millplus

Hey guys! My company is purchasing a Deckel Maho DMU180, nice machine, but the MC 5x experience that I have is with trunion tables. What kind of post issues (trouble) am I getting into? Thanks in advance

quote: We have Haas VF 8s with trunions (2) Vf 3s with trunion (3) VF 2s (4) Toolroom mills (3) Lathes SL30s with C axis (3) SL20 C axis Toolroom lathe and Haas EC2000 Horizontal with trunion and rotary. We do aircraft work Alum. power generation parts stainless to Haspaloy inconel and so on no real problems we purchase gear driven when possable. With that said you have to keep your feeds within reason. We have excellent service mostly instalation. The Haas dealer is right down the street from us. I used to work with Don. Our company got sold on the size to cost ratio for larger machines. They could have invested more $ and got nice Jap-made machines but the GM is not a machinist so I'll leave it at that. I used to Run/Program the VF8s with the TRT310. These machines had CAT-50 spindles at 10,000 RPM. The biggest endmill you could run on them was a 1.500 hogmill at a 1.500 DOC in steel. We tried 2.000 hogs and broke 3 belts! I'd invest the money in something great, not something good. Oh yeah, the local Haas Sales Office does have a nice showroom on our shop floor!

Ron, For some reason I can't get the debug to work in this post??? Am I doing something wrong? quote: Josh welcome to the lathe canned cycle nitemare club lol AHA! So this is what you bitched about for 4 years!!! "not only am I the President of this club... I'm also a client"

BUMP Anybody???

I tried a search but nothing specific... I know there will be a lot of whining but it's worth the help (I'm a Lathe Canned whiner too) This is a modded MPLFAN.pst (just basic stuff) on a Hardinge with a Fanuc 18Ti. My post spits the initial rapid positions between the P & Q blocks of my canned cycles and I don't like it. [see below] code: % O0000 (XA-CDCA-81084TOPCUP_ALT .NC ) (TIMKEN TTC PROTOTYPE) (MACHINE CNC: HARDINGE TURNING CENTERS) (DATE- 24-03-08 ) (Z WORKSHIFT OFFSET) G10 P0 Z 0 G20 G28 U0 W0 T0 ( TOOL - 1 OFFSET - 1 ) ( LCAN_ROUGH CNMG - 432 - OD INSERT - CNMG-432 ) G0 T0101 G97 S982 M13 G0 X1.75 Z.1 G50 S2500 G96 S450 G72 W.03 R0. G72 P100 Q102 U0. W.003 F.01 N100 G0 Z0. S450 <===== here G1 X-.1008 N102 Z.1 <===== G0 X1.75 Z.1707 G71 U.05 R0. G71 P104 Q106 U.02 W.005 F.01 N104 G0 X1.3546 S450 <===== and here G1 Z.0524 X1.5171 Z-.0288 G3 X1.5354 Z-.0509 R.0312 G1 Z-.984 Z-1.6657 N106 X1.75 <===== G28 U0. W0. M05 T0100 M01 I'd like to see the initial rapid moves as G1 and the return moves outside of the P & Q blocks. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Josh

I have an IBM T60p Laptop with an ATI mobility FireGL V5200 card and everything runs fine. I had to adjust the performance settings on the battery (was lagging) but after that it was fine. I have a NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL on my desktop computer (laptop for travel) and I can't tell the difference between the two. Card memory settings maybe?

Did you create the wireframe in MC?

MAN!!!! You ol' timers are getting soft! Asking for a post an no chants of "crucify him"? This is a sad day.... and I had a fist full of rocks

use Wear All I use and all I'm gonna use

Ron nailed it! Post questions usually need to be addressed by the gurus... not shadetrees like myself! Jimmy and Don are very sharp, they've helped me out of several jams. We have 15 different machine makes here in the Prototype Shop and a working post for all of them. If I got stuck on something they were the 1st call I made. Now with that said... When should I receive my FREE solids update???

Star, On our Hermle, when the A axis rotates toward the operator the sign is A- (A-90) and yes the A is primary, I know that sounds silly but it's all I had to work with at the time. On your question about the Haas, they refer to an axis that rotates around Z (C Axis) as a B Axis. I don't know why but that is Haas. Don and I had alot of experience with Haas trunion tables at my last job, they do things the Haas way just to do it... there's no rime or reason behind it. Good luck on your post!

Correction: Our post is a modified GenFanuc5X for a Heidenhain 430 ISO control. Sorry for the mistake. Jimmy W won't lead you wrong though... he had my post straight in a day! quote: My reseller can beat up your reseller!

It really depends on what your industry application is to decide on a design software. At Timken on the automotive side we use ProEngineer Wildfire 3.0 - ProE is really good for tool design (progressive, complex die assemblies, etc.) Catia does the best job at the surface creation but you'll pay big for it. If you're looking for a great general design package you really can't beat Solidworks, they do a pretty good job at everything. I feel your pain with UG, we are in the process of switching and I'm here to tell you I hate it. HTH

HMMMMM.... My modded GenFanuc5X works perfect for my Haas. I thought this was an open forum for info and help to those who needed advice. I truly thought I was helping the guy... apparently not. Not everyone can afford the In House posts so we have to do best with what we've got. From now on I'll stay on the asking side of threads instead of the answering

DLIND, Welcome to the forum! You're in the right place for the help you need. Look for these parameters in your post: code: #Primary axis angle description (in machine base terms) #With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis must be the XY plane rotaxis1 = vecy #Zero <===== rotdir1 = -vecx #Direction <===== #Secondary axis angle description (in machine base terms) #With nutating (mtype 3-5) the nutating axis and this plane normal #are aligned to calculate the secondary angle rotaxis2 = vecz #Zero <===== rotdir2 = vecy #Direction <===== Try changing them to match the rotaxis & rotdir values. HTH Josh

I was pretty sure that someone was doing it... I just didn't know who. The Kellenberger has a lot of weird code that would definetly need a lot of post tweaking. Looks like Barefoot CNC and I have a job to get started. Thanks e'rbody!

What's happening everyone? I thought I saw this topic before but couldn't find anything on a search. We have a Kellenberger 4 axis grinder. 2 OD/ 2 ID heads with profile dress and grind capabilities. I'm thinking there could possibly be someone out there that uses MC Lathe to program this way, maybe not on a kellenberger but something else(Studer?) If anyone has any ideas let me know, my superiors and I are VERY curious. Thanks, Josh

Bob, The Haas 5X line of posts are usually modified generic fanuc posts that are found in the MC post download. Your reseller should have this "off the shelf" post readily available (mine does) for a minimum fee. You may have to change teh rotation parameters in the machine to accomodate the post rotation signs but that is a simple issue that Haas can talk you through on the phone. You probably can purchase teh post for around $1000. I can think of a few hundred folks who have salted their own GEN_FANUC_5X to taste but unless you've got several hours of post editing experience or lots of time, patience, and BC powders I'd suggest going to your reseller. HTH

I can't believe what I'm reading! Someone asked for a post and no one is ready to stone him? (pocketful of rocks ready!) I asked once.... the replies after were something like "Crucify him!" Hardmill must have a chipped flute or something!

I've almost got it guys!!! All I need to change is the end of tool reference return to output a G28 move for the A/C axis before X/Y (it's currently the opposite - X/Y before A/C). I think I know how to change it but I don't want to screw anything up. I think it's in the mapping but not sure. A huge thanks to Jimmy and Barefoot CNC for the help. My reseller can kick your reseller's A$$!

yeah Jimmy the Y is right except now the B Axis is 180 degrees off. It is posting B0 for the Front View instead of B180.