2020 Feedrate Override Issue

[nperry]

Anyone seen this one yet?

I never typically program an override for a finish pass, but I've seen them posting out above 100% lately when they're programmed at 100%.

If I go in and change the feedrate to something other than 100%, then back to 100%, regen, it'll post at what is programmed. This is in helix bore....haven't noticed it anywhere else at this point.

 

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, nperry said:

Anyone seen this one yet?

I never typically program an override for a finish pass, but I've seen them posting out above 100% lately when they're programmed at 100%.

If I go in and change the feedrate to something other than 100%, then back to 100%, regen, it'll post at what is programmed. This is in helix bore....haven't noticed it anywhere else at this point.

 

When I make my feedrate on the final helix bore pass less than a hundred percent,

it will come out as 7.5 ipm instead of 420.0 ipm.

If you put it at 100%, does it post out the correct value?

[nperry]

24 minutes ago, byte me said:

When I make my feedrate on the final helix bore pass less than a hundred percent,

it will come out as 7.5 ipm instead of 420.0 ipm.

If you put it at 100%, does it post out the correct value?

It'll post out the correct feedrate if I change it to something other than what I want, regen, change back to what I want, regen, post. It looks to me like if I create the cutter path and leave that override untouched it's posting out something above 100% until I make some sort of change to it and regen.

[SlaveCam]

This bug has existed for ages and is a major annoyance (as I use helix bore a LOT) and maybe number #2 reason I have to go back to computer and repost.

Number #1 is missing/misplaced coolant.

[pro grammer]

That bug exists in several other places in MC, too. In lathe if I change the tool number it creates quite a mess. I literally have to go in and create a whole new tool in order for the tool to post right. Many times I have to totally recreate ops in mill in order for it to take a change.

[gcode]

16 minutes ago, pro grammer said:

That bug exists in several other places in MC, too. In lathe if I change the tool number it creates quite a mess. I literally have to go in and create a whole new tool in order for the tool to post right. Many times I have to totally recreate ops in mill in order for it to take a change.

this setting is on in a default install

Make sure it is unchecked

 

[pro grammer]

Just now, gcode said:

this setting is on in a default install

Make sure it is unchecked

 

Yeah, that's not the issue. I never have that "feature" checked. That "feature" reminds me of another "feature" they had years ago called "use default post". Boy was that a FKUP. They tool that out soon after.

[gcode]

10 minutes ago, pro grammer said:

Yeah, that's not the issue. I never have that "feature" checked. That "feature" reminds me of another "feature" they had years ago called "use default post". Boy was that a FKUP. They tool that out soon after.

I would like to see this feature on each individual toolpath.

It is useless as a global switch IMO 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, gcode said:

I would like to see this feature on each individual toolpath.

It is useless as a global switch IMO 

I use it globally, i'd rather have both.

[Leon82]

I just had the circle mill finish pass feed override post only the first one and never went back to the original

[JParis]

I am curious as to the settings...

I just drew four 1" circles, circle milled them with a .500 endmill x .25 deep...

2 rough passes at 55 IPM

1 finish pass at 25 IPM

On all switches it made the correct change and changed back....

 

[Leon82]

22 minutes ago, JParis said:

I am curious as to the settings...

I just drew four 1" circles, circle milled them with a .500 endmill x .25 deep...

2 rough passes at 55 IPM

1 finish pass at 25 IPM

On all switches it made the correct change and changed back....

 

I'll double check again in the morning

[Aaron Eberhard]

17 hours ago, Leon82 said:

I'll double check again in the morning

Please do, and post files (or even better, send them into [email protected]).   We're currently looking at a reported issue (R-13837) where the feedrate isn't being updated unless you view the Rough/Finish page after changing tool parameters, but I don't have any records of something like this reported for disabled values, and, like JParis, I cannot replicate it.

Also, - spoiler alert - because fixing that will cause other the opposite problem where it updates the feedrate when you didn't want to, look for something like this in the next release:

So it'll act like Thread Mill, where you can lock a setting to keep it from being updated by changing the tool properties...

[Leon82]

48 minutes ago, Aaron Eberhard - CNC Software said:

Please do, and post files (or even better, send them into [email protected]).   We're currently looking at a reported issue (R-13837) where the feedrate isn't being updated unless you view the Rough/Finish page after changing tool parameters, but I don't have any records of something like this reported for disabled values, and, like JParis, I cannot replicate it.

Also, - spoiler alert - because fixing that will cause other the opposite problem where it updates the feedrate when you didn't want to, look for something like this in the next release:

So it'll act like Thread Mill, where you can lock a setting to keep it from being updated by changing the tool properties...

I wish we could have that lock button on all the tool pages as I don't use the lock feed rate button.

[Leon82]

I'll post a file later when I can get internet.

So if you only override the finish feed rate you get the bug. But as soon as I overrode the semi-finished feed rate also then it posted correctly with both feeds

I have roughing and entry off at the moment I think that maybe what it's doing. This is on circlemill

 

Also depth cuts are on.

The first depth is ok. All others stay at the finish override feed

[Leon82]

here is my file 

circ test.zip

[JParis]

Well, I have never seen it do that before but you're file clearly shows it ain't updating...

I have messed with all kinds of setting and nope, nada...if you haven't sent that into QC, you should definitely do so...

I tried it in 2021

[Leon82]

10 minutes ago, JParis said:

Well, I have never seen it do that before but you're file clearly shows it ain't updating...

I have messed with all kinds of setting and nope, nada...if you haven't sent that into QC, you should definitely do so...

I tried it in 2021

Ok I will forward it to the address Arron posted.

 

[Leon82]

They emailed me back. He was seeing the same issue in 2021 and it may be fixed in 2021 but most likely 2022