Benchmark

[Brian B 74]

Just got done playing around with my BIOS on my ASUS P5K-E mobo.

 

Intel Q6600 OC @ 3.5Ghz

2 gig PC6400 RAM

 

5:10

 

Ran on core #4 - temp topped out at 55deg C.

[bogusmill]

Looks like my 5:06 from my homebuilt Asus P5B-D 8 months ago is finally being battered to hell. I have always run MCX2 using 75% of RAM but I never really tried any tests to see if it helped but if I have MC running it's more important than anything else that might be running so it seemed logical.

[Brian B 74]

For those that are interested, Tigerdirect.com has a special running on a bare bones kit (item #P450-9102 P)that includes an XFX nForece 680i mobo w/ the Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66Ghz processor. 2 gig ram, case, HD, DVD burner and 750 power supply are included in this deal. $599.99 after $40 rebate.

 

Just an F.Y.I. for those interested in boosting their processing times.

[Guest]

Well. anyone expecting a performance increase under Vista x64 and Sp1, forget it, I was with in 3 seconds of my original time on this system.

 

The further hope lies in X3 FULLY supporting 64 bit technology.

[gcode]

John..

how do Vista X64 times compare with XP Pro x32 times??

[Guest]

gcode,

 

within seconds of each other.

 

under 10 second difference over several tries

[Craig Madsen from CM3D]

Well, I just loaded Vista x64sp1.

 

Took 3 tries to get it to install without crashing.

 

ALSO, I moved the paging file to a new Raptor (new to me - 'requisitioned' it from my kid.) and set the size to FIXED at twice my actual memory size at 8000 MB. Also, I set 'No paging file' on my C: drive - this gives a warning about not being able to make a dump file if there is a crash of the system - Oh well.

 

I moved the Mastercam TEMP and RGN locations to the new drive (same path names, just new drive location) and created the directories there.

 

new times old times

 

1st(new) 5:21 1st (old) 6:27

rgn (new) :35 rgn (old) 1:07

 

A little better than 1 minute (17%) improvement in 1st run, and 32 seconds (about 48%) on the regen.

 

I suspect the majority of Improvement is due to moving file locations.

 

I did try at one point using the READYBOOST feature - slowed system to point I shut down the test at 12+ minutes.

 

However, gigabyte (motherboard mfg) also makes a board that utilizes my old 4 gig ddr memory as a hard disk. I am considering trying that, since it would be much faster than even the RAPTOR. I just need to justify $180 as a experiment.

[Guest]

Craig,

 

Was this a fresh install or an update?

 

I have read a couple of things that seem to suggest the clean install is better than the upgrade.

[Craig Madsen from CM3D]

This was a upgrade.

 

I downloaded the entire 786MB file - installed from that, not the 'web update'.

[bogusmill]

Way to go Craig. I've been setting up my pagefile that way for years now, just smaller for 32 bit OS.

 

Once I had an IT guy here tell me that I needed a little pagefile on C:. I told him no but he did it anyway and MC could only read the little C: pagefile and not the big one on another drive so it gave out of memory errors and crashed constantly. I got a different IT guy to remove the C drive pagefile MC was happy once more. It was a fairytale ending right up until MCX arrived but thats a whole new book.

[MattW]

So, after a year or two of low level griping about my MC rig (it had issues beyond distance from cutting edge), I got a new system.

 

Old computer:

Dell Precision 360 Intel Pentium 2 2.8

Win XP Pro

1G RAM Quadro FX 500

 

12:56

It would slow down a bit if I had much else running.

 

New computer:

Dell Precision T5400 Intel Xeon quad core 3.16G

Win XP Pro 64 Bit

8G RAM Quadro FX 4600

 

5:05 out of the box, no tweaking yet.

Right on.

Incidently, RealView in SW2008 looks pretty good with this card.

[neil qwerty]

New machine ($2600 canadian without the video card):

 

5:08

Intel core 2 Extreme (Quad) X9650 3.0GHz

8 gig of ram

win XP pro (32 bit)

Quadro FX 1700

4x500 gig HD running RAID 10.

[Keith @ Solid Code Solutions]

How do you manage 8 gigs of ram with a a 32bit OS?

[67 Yankee]

5:26

 

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0GHz

ABIT IP35 Pro Motherboard

OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 Dual Channel

GeForce 8800GTX Video Card

(2X) WD Raptor 74GB 10,000 RPM HDD in RAID 0

WinXP Home

 

About $1500 total + monitor and Windows.

[cadcam]

(How do you manage 8 gigs of ram with a a 32bit OS? ) You Don't......

[Paul McGarr]

I dual boot Vista x86 and x64. I have 8GB ram in my system and use both OS's with no problem. Though x86 won't use it all, it's still in my system. Therfore, if I were running Mastercam on my system under x86, I would post my system specs as the poster above did...8GB RAM.

[Keith @ Solid Code Solutions]

So it is really not representitive for the bench mark unless you are just boasting.

[neil qwerty]

The 8 gigs of ram came with the package, Windows only sees 3.2 of it. I may upgrade to x64 if I feel I need the for it and if I can find all the drivers I need.

[bogusmill]

I usually don't build a new PC 9 months after the last one but something in the motherboard of my Asus P5B-D quit and I RMA'd the board. There haven't been any in stock for weeks so I'll get my money back and use it to buy an Asus Rampage Formula motherboard and either a C2D 8400 or Xenon 3110. They are esentially the same CPU but I think the Xenon has shown better benchmark times. This CPU should clock 600Mhz to 1Gb higher than a quad core.

 

I haven't seen anyone post a benchmark with a board using DDR3 yet. If MCX2 is more memory intensive then the higher bandwidth of DDR3 would help. That memory is expensive and would take a different ($$$) motherboard. It'll be interesting to see what kind of benchmark times this thing will produce.

[Guest]

Nevermind the more money on memory,

 

I want to see true multi core support.

 

I believe that is where the REAL gains will be made.

[Brian B 74]

How many other CAM systems out there utilize the multi core support?

[Keith @ Solid Code Solutions]

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I believe that is where the REAL gains will be made.

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Totally agree. Or at least be able to keep working with the processes running in the back ground.

 

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How many other CAM systems out there utilize the multi core support?

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For one HSMWorks

[Guest]

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How many other CAM systems out there utilize the multi core support?

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CAM Works

Surfcam

 

Others I am sure I am unaware of

 

CAD

 

Solidworks

UGS

Autodesk

Catia

[bogusmill]

After looking at other benchmarks I'm beginning to wonder if our 4:15 leader is (mistaken) about his time. Think about it, a 45 second drop from an OEM PC using a server motherboard when all other leaders were overclocked enthusiast machines.

 

The only thing really different is the 8Gb of Ram and 64bit OS. I ran MCX2 on a 64bit OS and got a 10 sec. longer time than with 32bit OS. Whitten got a 4:50 time with an overclock to 3.7Gb, I did 5:06 with a 3.5Gb CPU clock. Our (leader) with a 3.2 CPU clock OEM machine is much more believable at 5:15. I wonder if he used a stop watch or watched a wall clock and did the math (mistake). Also he's in Canada. We've already seen that the benchmark is faster in metric and I didn't see where he said which he used.

 

[ 04-07-2008, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: bogusmill ]

[Keith @ Solid Code Solutions]

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The only thing really different is the 8Gb of Ram and 64bit OS. I ran MCX2 on a 64bit OS and got a 10 sec. longer time than with 32bit OS.

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Agreed that a 64bit OS should not posses any substancial the advantage with Mastercam.