Old dogs and new tricks

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Well, After years and years, I finaly figured out how to use WCS.

I'm amazed

and somewhat humbled...

[Guest]

Understanding how to use the WCS system will make your programming life soooooo much easier.

 

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Wha Chu doin workin on a Sunday John?

Oh yea...you own the shop too...

[Guest]

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Wha Chu doin workin on a Sunday John?

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Nope no worky today.

 

Recovering from my week in Fla. Now I need a vacation from my vacation.

 

 

Back at it tomorrow.

[crazy^millman]

I have a parts right now all done in one file. I have over 70 WCS's for this one file and it works great. I however still never use if for 5 axis and Mill/Turn work.

[Kelly Burns]

You kind of get that look like someone finally told you the answer to the meaning of life when you finally understand what that little WCS icon actually does. Now you wont know how you lived without it.

[billystein]

welcome home,

How was disneyworld?

[Guest]

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How was disneyworld?

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Disney was good, my granddaughter had a blast and that is what it was all about.

 

If I ever went back to Orlando again, I "might" take a day or 2 at the parks but I would find other things to do as well.

[doyleg]

The WCS is great. I have almost forgot how to copy to new level, rotate and then tranform. What a relief.

[Mike-T]

I've used it for simple stuff, but does it work for 3+2 ?? If I have 10 a-b positions would I have to recreate them in the new Wcs ??

[Zoober]

When doing 3+2, WCS stays CL of rotation for a,b. T/C planes get set to the angles to be machined. The T/C planes being different from the WCS are the cause for rotary movement.

In your example, you would have 1 WCS (top, or front, depending on your 5x post), and 9 TC planes for the ab positions.

[Mike-T]

Yup.. got that, but we have several types of 3+2 machines. Haas Trunnion a = 4th(tilt in y) b =©rotary around z at A0. And Tsudakoma's A=© and b = tilt in x. So to go between machines I always end up rotating my geo 90 deg (to align with my tilt) and recreating my tool planes.. Is there a better way ??

[Mike-T]

Bump.......

[billystein]

"Disney was good, my granddaughter had a blast and that is what it was all about."

 

 

+1 family fun time

[Rick Henrickson The Boeing Co.]

I would think you could set up a WCS for each type and import them as needed

[gcode]

I've never used the WCS to rotate a whole

5x (3+2) job, but I use them all the time to

move the center of rotary.

When I start a job, I make a copy of the Top Toolplane and use it for the WCS.

Then if the pivot distance changes for any reason, all I have to do is change the Z value

in the origin definiton.

[gms1]

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You kind of get that look like someone finally told you the answer to the meaning of life when you finally understand what that little WCS icon actually does. Now you wont know how you lived without it.

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So true. After the waterfall problems with STL files I decided to sit down and force myself to learn WCS. I wont ever look back.

[Zoober]

Mike, it is all dependent on your machine, machine def, and post. What I mean by that is how the vectors are calculated by primary and secondary axis'.

You can play with defs and posts to try to get them to give proper tilt/rotate based on WCS of top or front. That plays a big role in how you can switch between machines with the same orientaion of WCS.

 

I hope that makes sense.

[gcode]

I've built a couple of 5x double rotary posts lately. I started with the X2 release of gen5X and they have handled all the WCS issues

I've thrown at them.

Back in the V9 days I got burned using WCS with

5X stuff.

as I side note, I've noticed that WCS and the new advanced 5X toolpaths do not play well together

[Kelly Burns]

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I've built a couple of 5x double rotary posts lately

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Whata geek.

 

In all seriousnes, where in the world do you guys learn this stuff? I cant even get H and T numbers to match when I want to mess with the post.......Hi Im gcode, Machinist/MasterCam guru/C+ programmer/nuclear physicist/pornstar/etc. etc. Im sooooooo jealous.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Look, he's a Solidworks beta tester too...

[gcode]

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5x double rotary posts

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are easy... all the hard work has been done by the

real geeks in CNC Software's Post Developement lab

Those are some really bright people

[Mike-T]

Thanks for the replies. I've tried it with the wcs with no luck, but I could be missing something. If a person could edit the matrix of a view would be nice, but I think Robert's idea has merit. I'll send it to my reseller, see what he thinks.

[Kannon]

ruff ruff...

 

this old dog just had the light shed on him with WCS...

I have been copyin to different levels and rotating as needed...some of my solids files got quite large..

 

Im a little slow...but it was worth it.

[John13]

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Im a little slow...

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well, you are from Iowa.