apply button (blue plus) question

[Chris Rizzo]

Let's say in a toolpath you change a few parameters. I've always just green checked out upon completion, or clicked onto the next page or field. Never really use the blue plus apply. Hitting it is just another step anyways. A few rare occurrences I've had parameters not stick, and I believe it might be related to this. Anyone else have rhyme or reason with using/not using blue plus?

[crazy^millman]

I always use the blue plus. It was a problem when the new toolpath styles came out and just stayed with that habit.

[Mark V.]

It is definitaly related Chris. Stock to leave on walls in Contour is a big one for me. I always make sure to hit the blue plus now, after a few issues with values not sticking.

[Mic6]

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just stayed with that habit

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same here. I'd rather take the extra .75 second to click it, then have to go BACK in, reset what I had, and then click it and the check.

[G10X0Y0Z0]

the question is - why do we need the annoying blue button? just one more way of slowing you down.

[kunfuzed]

^ +1000

 

90% of the time you don't need to hit the Apply button. The other 10% are bugs. Let's fix those.

[Tony35]

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Stock to leave on walls in Contour is a big one for me

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+1

 

i have just forced myself to hit the tab or enter button now to get the new values to stick

[Oppiz]

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the question is - why do we need the annoying blue button? just one more way of slowing you down.

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I agree.. why do we need the blue button???

[Richard Thomas - Mastercam UK]

The Apply button is leftover from when the new "high speed" interface was first incorporated into Mastercam. In another CAM package, pressing Apply actually started to process your toolpath while the dialog was still on the screen (i.e. multithreading). I live in the hope that function will make it's return in Mcam someday!

[kunfuzed]

Return? Mcam used to do that?

[Chris Rizzo]

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In another CAM package, pressing Apply actually started to process your toolpath while the dialog was still on the screen

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That seems sketchy, if your still in the parameters you have every opportunity to change more fields...and thus the toolpath you get isn't necessarily what you've got set.

[Richard Thomas - Mastercam UK]

Kunfuzed,

 

Sorry.... to clarify, I meant that I hope the button would once again work as originally intended, not that Mastercam used to work in that way.

 

Chris,

 

If I remember rightly you would get a warning/alarm if you tried to change something if the toolpath was generating in the background. I didn't spend a lot of time with it tho and it was a good five years ago!

[Chris Rizzo]

As multi threading works now, a tool path can be processing in the background and you can go into the parameters for said tool path and change stuff. No warning. The obvious result is you get a tool path that is not what the current settings/parameters are. Always thought that was weird and certainly required a user to be aware of that.

[K2csq7]

+1 to tab or enter, I never thought of leaving the cursor in a field and exiting. I feel like hitting tab or enter is the way I tell Mcam "yes, this is the number I want to ENTER"

[RandleXX]

OMG! I never realized the blue button was even there. I always just hit the green check button.

[TK-32™]

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.75 second

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come one man, you're making the rest of us Californians look bad. We're not that slow

[Programinator]

Ok. Say you copy a toolpath and want to change the plane field which i do many times so i dont pick all my options again. I can just change the plane and repick geo. Seems much faster too me. especially for chamfering cycles or spotting.

 

So if you want to change the linking perameters and you want to do so by picking the z position on your model then unless you click the update blue cross then it will give you the incorrect z position that would correspond to a defferent plane. Unless you click the green check and then reopen the toolpath. but if you dont want to close then open again you must click the blue cross.

 

Most other casses you dont need it. But in this case it is needed.

 

Im pretty sure thats how it works. Correct me if im wrong because im at home and i cant test out my theory.

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

There would be a lot less posts/complaints about the blue cross if more people were in the habit of using the tab key.

[Programinator]

Tab key? what for

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

It's pretty standard practice amongst windows programs to use the TAB key to switch to the next input field. Shift + TAB will take you to the previous input field. When you "TAB out" of a feild, it confirms the input.

 

Just give it a try...no more blue cross needed!

[Programinator]

just tested my theory that i posted a couple posts ago and turns out i was wrong.

[Programinator]

Yes the tab key works good. I use it all the time to go to next field. Didnt realize that also was helping me not have to check the blue cross. . . . thanks