Need help!!!

[Thirteenth]

k well wasnt able to get in to the shop today. but i do remember that the two codes looked nothing alike if that helps...

 

EDIT: also, i found out it was actually just M30 what it was saying, not MC30.

 

[ 12-17-2003, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: Thirteenth ]

[Thirteenth]

ok here is a copy of the one that works....

 

G80 G0

N2 G0 X.3718 Y.3226

N3 S2500 M3

N4 G43 H1 Z1.

N5 Z.1

N6 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0

N7 X2.6282

N8 X2.6055 Y.4132

N9 X2.6775

N10 Y.5037

N11 X2.6647

N12 G2 X2.4026 Y.3275 I-.2621 J.1068

N13 G1 X1.5605

N14 G2 X1.2775 Y.6105 I0. J.283

N15 G1 Y1.1895

N16 G2 X1.5605 Y1.4725 I.283 J0.

N17 G1 X2.4026

N18 G2 X2.6544 Y1.3189 I0. J-.283

N19 G1 X2.6775

N20 Y1.4094

N21 X2.5807

N22 X2.6775 Y1.5

N23 X.3225

N24 Y1.4094

N25 X1.3824

N26 G3 X1.3088 Y1.3189 I.1781 J-.22

N27 G1 X.3225

N28 Y1.2283

N29 X1.2802

N30 G3 X1.2775 Y1.1895 I.2804 J-.0388

N31 G1 Y1.1377

N32 X.3225

N33 Y1.0472

N34 X1.2775

N35 Y.9566

N36 X.3225

N37 Y.866

N38 X1.2775

N39 Y.7754

N40 X.3225

N41 Y.6849

N42 X1.2775

N43 Y.6105

N44 G3 X1.278 Y.5943 I.283 J0.

N45 G1 X.3225

N46 Y.5037

N47 X1.2984

N48 G3 X1.3577 Y.4132 I.2621 J.1068

N49 G1 X.3225

N50 Y1.5906

N51 X.3277

N52 G2 X.3275 Y1.596 I.0723 J.0054

N53 G1 Y1.6811

N54 X.3225

N55 Y1.7717

N56 X.3275

N57 Y1.8623

N58 X.3225

N59 Y1.9528

N60 X.3275

N61 Y2.0434

N62 X.3225

N63 Y2.134

N64 X.3275

N65 Y2.2246

N66 X.3225

N67 Y2.3151

N68 X.3275

N69 Y2.4057

N70 X.3225

N71 Y2.4963

N72 X.3275

N73 Y2.5868

N74 X.3225

N75 X.3275 Y2.596

N76 G2 X.3606 Y2.6568 I.0725 J-0.

N77 G1 X.3718 Y2.6774

N78 X2.6282

N79 X2.6775 Y2.5868

N80 X2.1567

N81 Y2.4963

N82 X2.6775

N83 Y2.4057

N84 X2.1567

N85 Y2.3151

N86 X2.6775

N87 Y2.2246

N88 X2.1567

N89 Y2.134

N90 X2.6775

N91 Y2.0434

N92 X2.1567

N93 Y1.9528

N94 X2.6775

N95 Y1.8623

N96 X2.1567

N97 Y1.7717

N98 X2.6775

N99 Y1.6811

N100 X2.1567

N101 Y1.596

N102 G2 X2.1565 Y1.5906 I-.0725 J0.

N103 G1 X2.6775

N104 X2.1565

N105 G2 X2.0842 Y1.5235 I-.0723 J.0054

N106 G1 X1.7947

N107 G2 X1.7224 Y1.5906 I0. J.0725

N108 G1 X1.452

N109 X1.4973 Y1.6811

N110 X1.7222

N111 Y1.7717

N112 X1.5426

N113 X1.5879 Y1.8623

N114 X1.7222

N115 Y1.9528

N116 X1.6332

N117 X1.6784 Y2.0434

N118 X1.7222

N119 X1.6571 Y2.0006

N120 X1.4385 Y1.5636

N121 G2 X1.3737 Y1.5235 I-.0648 J.0324

N122 G1 X1.1105

N123 G2 X1.0457 Y1.5636 I0. J.0725

N124 G1 X1.0322 Y1.5906

N125

X.7618

N126 G3 X.762 Y1.596 I-.0723 J.0054

N127 G1 Y1.6811

N128 X.9869

N129 X.9416 Y1.7717

N130 X.762

N131 Y1.8623

N132 X.8963

N133 X.851 Y1.9528

N134 X.762

N135 Y2.0434

N136 X.8058

N137 X.762 Y2.131

N138 Y1.596

N139 G2 X.6895 Y1.5235 I-.0725 J0.

N140 G1 X.4

N141 G2 X.3275 Y1.596 I0. J.0725

N142 G1 Y2.596

N143 G2 X.4 Y2.6685 I.0725 J0.

N144 G1 X.9526

N145 G2 X1.0175 Y2.6284 I0. J-.0725

N146 G1 X1.2194 Y2.2246

N147 X1.2648

N148 X1.3101 Y2.3151

N149 X1.1741

N150 X1.1288 Y2.4057

N151 X1.3554

N152 X1.4007 Y2.4963

N153 X1.0836

N154 X1.0383 Y2.5868

N155 X1.4459

N156 G0 Z1.

N157 X1.7383 Y.7094

N158 Z.1

N159 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0

N160 X2.2249

N161 Y.7684

N162 G2 X2.2269 Y.7857 I.0725 J0.

N163 G1 X1.7383

N164 Y.8619

N165 X2.6775

N166 Y.9381

N167 X1.7383

N168 Y1.0143

N169 X2.2269

N170 G2 X2.2249 Y1.0316 I.0704 J.0172

N171 G1 Y1.0906

N172 X1.7383

N173 G0 Z1.

N174 X.375 Y2.6875

N175 Z.1

N176 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0

N177 G3 X.3125 Y2.625 I0. J-.0625

N178 G1 Y.375

N179 G3 X.375 Y.3125 I.0625 J0.

N180 G1 X2.625

N181 G3 X2.6875 Y.375 I0. J.0625

N182 G1 Y2.625

N183 G3 X2.625 Y2.6875 I-.0625 J0.

N184 G1 X.375

N185 G0 Z1.

N186 X2.6757 Y1.1895

N187 Z.1

N188 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0

N189 Y1.0316

N190 G2 X2.6132 Y.9691 I-.0625 J0.

N191 G1 X2.2974

N192 G2 X2.2349 Y1.0316 I0. J.0625

N193 G1 Y1.1007

N194 X1.7283

N195 Y.6993

N196 X2.2349

N197 Y.7684

N198 G2 X2.2974 Y.8309 I.0625 J0.

N199 G1 X2.6132

N200 G2 X2.6757 Y.7684 I0. J-.0625

N201 G1 Y.6105

N202 G2 X2.4026 Y.3375 I-.273 J0.

N203 G1 X1.5605

N204 G2 X1.2875 Y.6105 I0. J.273

N205 G1 Y1.1895

N206 G2 X1.5605 Y1.4625 I.273 J0.

N207 G1 X2.4026

N208 G2 X2.6757 Y1.1895 I0. J-.273

N209 G0 Z1.

N210 X2.0842 Y1.5335

N211 Z.1

N212 G1 Z-.1875 F10.0

N213 X1.7947

N214 G2 X1.7322 Y1.596 I0. J.0625

N215 G1 Y2.1734

N216 X1.4296 Y1.568

N217 G2 X1.3737 Y1.5335 I-.0559 J.028

N218 G1 X1.1105

N219 G2 X1.0546 Y1.568 I0. J.0625

N220 G1 X.752 Y2.1734

N221 Y1.596

N222 G2 X.6895 Y1.5335 I-.0625 J0.

N223 G1 X.4

N224 G2 X.3375 Y1.596 I0. J.0625

N225 G1 Y2.596

N226 G2 X.4 Y2.6585 I.0625 J0.

N227 G1 X.9526

N228 G2 X1.0085 Y2.624 I0. J-.0625

N229 G1 X1.2421 Y2.1568

N230 X1.4757 Y2.624

N231 G2 X1.5316 Y2.6585 I.0559 J-.028

N232

G1 X2.0842

N233 G2 X2.1467 Y2.596 I0. J-.0625

N234 G1 Y1.596

N235 G2 X2.0842 Y1.5335 I-.0625 J0.

N236 G0 Z1.

N237 G0 Z3.0

N238 X0. Y0.

N239 M30

 

 

N244

N249

[Harryman]

Looks to me like you might be dancing if you strip the first % and the Oxxx.

 

Chris was curious about the N5 mentioned in your earlier post; you don't have one in this code.

 

Oh well try this:

 

(PROGRAM NAME - O1578)

(DATE=DD-MM-YY - 17-12-03 TIME=HH:MM - 09:15)

N100G20

N102G0G17G40G49G80G90

(3/16 FLAT ENDMILL TOOL - 1 DIA. OFF. - 41 LEN. - 1 DIA. - .1875)

N104T1M6

N106G0G90G54X6.2228Y8.0831A0.S2852M3

N108G43H1Z.25

N110Z.1

N112G1Z0.F6.16

N114Y8.6047Z-.0273

N116X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.0436

N118G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.0739R.7557

N120X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.1041R.7557

N122G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.1204

N124Y8.0831Z-.1477

N126X5.1091Y7.889Z-.1614

N128G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.1876R.8295

N130X6.049Y7.889Z-.2137R.8295

N132G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.2274

N134Y8.6047Z-.2547

N136X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.271

N138G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.3013R.7557

N140X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.3315R.7557

N142G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.3478

N144Y8.0831Z-.3751

N146X5.1091Y7.889Z-.3888

N148G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.4149R.8295

N150X6.049Y7.889Z-.4411R.8295

N152G1X6.2228Y8.0831Z-.4548

N154Y8.6047Z-.4821

N156X6.1018Y8.8906Z-.4984

N158G3X5.5791Y9.1006Z-.5286R.7557

N160X5.0563Y8.8906Z-.5589R.7557

N162G1X4.9353Y8.6047Z-.5752

N164Y8.0831Z-.6025

N166X5.1091Y7.889Z-.6162

N168G3X5.5791Y7.7431Z-.6423R.8295

N170X5.7245Y7.7559Z-.65R.8295

N172X6.049Y7.889R.8295

N174G1X6.2228Y8.0831

N176Y8.6047

N178X6.1018Y8.8906

N180G3X5.5791Y9.1006R.7557

N182X5.0563Y8.8906R.7557

N184G1X4.9353Y8.6047

N186Y8.0831

N188X5.1091Y7.889

N190G3X5.5791Y7.7431R.8295

N192X5.7245Y7.7559R.8295

N194G0Z.25

N196X6.1728Y8.1022

N198Z.1

N200G1Z0.

N202Y8.5946Z-.0258

N204X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.041

N206G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.0687R.7057

N208X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.0964R.7057

N210G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.1116

N212Y8.1022Z-.1374

N214X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.1498

N216G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.1741R.7795

N218X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.1984R.7795

N220G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.2107

N222Y8.5946Z-.2365

N224X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.2517

N226G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.2794R.7057

N228X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.3071R.7057

N230G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.3223

N232Y8.1022Z-.3481

N234X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.3604

N236G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.3847R.7795

N238X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.409R.7795

N240G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.4214

N242Y8.5946Z-.4472

N244X6.0598Y8.8614Z-.4624

N246G3X5.5791Y9.0506Z-.4901R.7057

N248X5.0983Y8.8614Z-.5178R.7057

N250G1X4.9853Y8.5946Z-.533

N252Y8.1022Z-.5588

N254X5.1423Y7.9269Z-.5711

N256G3X5.5791Y7.7931Z-.5954R.7795

N258X6.0158Y7.9269Z-.6197R.7795

N260G1X6.1728Y8.1022Z-.632

N262Y8.4448Z-.65

N264Y8.5946

N266X6.0598Y8.8614

N268G3X5.5791Y9.0506R.7057

N270X5.0983Y8.8614R.7057

N272G1X4.9853Y8.5946

N274Y8.1022

N276X5.1423Y7.9269

N278G3X5.5791Y7.7931R.7795

N280X6.0158Y7.9269R.7795

N282G1X6.1728Y8.1022

N284Y8.4448

N286G0Z.25

N288M5

N290G91G28Z0.

N292G28X0.Y0.A0.

N294M30

%

[Thirteenth]

tried it, and still doesnt work.

 

all that comes up is

 

_N5 ;

%

[Harryman]

Now you need to look at your data input method please describe what software you are using and the physical hook up.

 

Are you looking for the progam in the machine properly?

[Surface]

Harryman,

He was communicating so why would the physical hook-up matter on this program?

Thirteenth,

Try this peice of code of a simple liniarized helix.

 

N15 G0 G40 G80 G90

N20 T1 M6

N25 S2000 M3

N30 G0 X1. Y0.

N35 H1 Z.25

N40 Z.1

N45 G1 Z-.15 F50.

N50 X.9962 Y-.0872 Z-.1514

N55 X.9848 Y-.1736 Z-.1528

N60 X.9659 Y-.2588 Z-.1542

N65 X.9397 Y-.342 Z-.1556

N70 X.9063 Y-.4226 Z-.1569

N75 X.866 Y-.5 Z-.1583

N80 X.8192 Y-.5736 Z-.1597

N85 X.766 Y-.6428 Z-.1611

N90 X.7071 Y-.7071 Z-.1625

N95 X.6428 Y-.766 Z-.1639

N100 X.5736 Y-.8192 Z-.1653

N105 X.5 Y-.866 Z-.1667

N110 X.4226 Y-.9063 Z-.1681

N115 X.342 Y-.9397 Z-.1694

N120 X.2588 Y-.9659 Z-.1708

N125 X.1736 Y-.9848 Z-.1722

N130 X.0872 Y-.9962 Z-.1736

N135 X0. Y-1. Z-.175

N140 X-.0872 Y-.9962 Z-.1764

N145 X-.1736 Y-.9848 Z-.1778

N150 X-.2588 Y-.9659 Z-.1792

N155 X-.342 Y-.9397 Z-.1806

N160 X-.4226 Y-.9063 Z-.1819

N165 X-.5 Y-.866 Z-.1833

N170 X-.5736 Y-.8192 Z-.1847

N175 X-.6428 Y-.766 Z-.1861

N180 X-.7071 Y-.7071 Z-.1875

N185 X-.766 Y-.6428 Z-.1889

N190 X-.8192 Y-.5736 Z-.1903

N195 X-.866 Y-.5 Z-.1917

N200 X-.9063 Y-.4226 Z-.1931

N205 X-.9397 Y-.342 Z-.1944

N210 X-.9659 Y-.2588 Z-.1958

N215 X-.9848 Y-.1736 Z-.1972

N220 X-.9962 Y-.0872 Z-.1986

N225 X-1. Y0. Z-.2

N230 X-.9962 Y.0872 Z-.2014

N235 X-.9848 Y.1736 Z-.2028

N240 X-.9659 Y.2588 Z-.2042

N245 X-.9397 Y.342 Z-.2056

N250 X-.9063 Y.4226 Z-.2069

N255 X-.866 Y.5 Z-.2083

N260 X-.8192 Y.5736 Z-.2097

N265 X-.766 Y.6428 Z-.2111

N270 X-.7071 Y.7071 Z-.2125

N275 X-.6428 Y.766 Z-.2139

N280 X-.5736 Y.8192 Z-.2153

N285 X-.5 Y.866 Z-.2167

N290 X-.4226 Y.9063 Z-.2181

N295 X-.342 Y.9397 Z-.2194

N300 X-.2588 Y.9659 Z-.2208

N305 X-.1736 Y.9848 Z-.2222

N310 X-.0872 Y.9962 Z-.2236

N315 X0. Y1. Z-.225

N320 X.0872 Y.9962 Z-.2264

N325 X.1736 Y.9848 Z-.2278

N330 X.2588 Y.9659 Z-.2292

N335 X.342 Y.9397 Z-.2306

N340 X.4226 Y.9063 Z-.2319

N345 X.5 Y.866 Z-.2333

N350 X.5736 Y.8192 Z-.2347

N355 X.6428 Y.766 Z-.2361

N360 X.7071 Y.7071 Z-.2375

N365 X.766 Y.6428 Z-.2389

N370 X.8192 Y.5736 Z-.2403

N375 X.866 Y.5 Z-.2417

N380 X.9063 Y.4226 Z-.2431

N385 X.9397 Y.342 Z-.2444

N390 X.9659 Y.2588 Z-.2458

N395 X.9848 Y.1736 Z-.2472

N400 X.9962 Y.0872 Z-.2486

N405 X1. Y0. Z-.25

N410 G0 Z.25

N415 G0 H0 Z0 M5

N420 M30

%

[Harryman]

Since the result:

 

quote:

---

_N5 ;

%

---

was the same for both attempts, I was wondering if he was in fact communicating. The N5 thing when no N5 was in the Pgram was also the reason I was wondering if he's looking for the transmitted program correctly.

[chris m]

The obvious differences in your code that works vs. the code that doesn't:

 

1) Start of file

2) No man-readable lines

3) I,J vs. R

4) No 'T' word

5) No reference return

.

.

.

 

The file you posted looks NOTHING like the file that works. I would take a random chunk [like ten lines] of your posted program and slap the first and last few lines of your proven program around it to see if you can get it to load. DON'T RUN IT, just try to load it.

 

BTW, do you have a real first name? I feel like a dipsh!t referring to people by their handles

 

C

[Rekd™]

quote:

---

BTW, do you have a real first name? I feel like a dipsh!t referring to people by their handles

---

quote:

---

-Jay

---

He sometimes feels like a dipxxxx for not reading posts, but that's a different story..

 

He's got a good point, Jay, try what he suggested.

 

'Rekd

 

[ 12-18-2003, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: Rekd ]

[Thirteenth]

haha good times right there.

 

ill try that tomorrow morning.

 

after school today im going over to a machine shop that's here in town. Guna see if i can get a proto type made and if they can help me out some.

[Thirteenth]

ok well my teach was messin around with it, not really sure what he did. but he got it to load up in the program. He said something about the "limits" wernt right so, hes guna play around with it somemore today and tomorrow morning we should be able to make one.

 

im tryin to get a pic of what im actually trying to make, well a render. just to show you guys just how easy this part is. its quite simple...lol. cant believe its giving me such a problem.

[Thirteenth]

 

there we go, guna be made out of black delrin.

[Philcott]

Jay,

 

quote:

---

its quite simple...lol. cant believe its giving me such a problem.

---

I don't think you are alone with this statement. I am sure all of us here have made that comment before. It's the easy jobs that sometimes bite you in the @$$.

 

Have your teacher write out the changes made to the program and put up a before/after for us to look at.

 

Phil

[chris m]

quote:

---

He sometimes feels like a dipxxxx for not reading posts, but that's a different story..

---

True dat

 

Sorry for my too-fast skimming on that one

 

Hey Matt; F U

 

 

C

[Rekd™]

quote:

---

Hey Matt; F U

---

LMFAO!

 

Ok, but I'll just lay there and giggle..

 

You're trying to get me in trouble, aren't you? (Note to self: don't read any more of Chris' posts unless nobody is in the shop)

 

'Rekd

[Thirteenth]

ok, im guna go in really early tomorrow. around 6:30 or so. so i hope to have that new code up around then to. then ill let you guys go to work lookin at it, while im guna see if i can make one or two .

 

also, went to that shop in town today. the guys guna program it for me and then im guna take that over to the hs and see if i can use that. might not need it, but if this one doesnt work right...yeah.

 

1 toolpath down...2 to go.....

 

oh, also the guy showed me around the shop...i was impressed. cant wait till i get this cnc stuff down, and able to work on bigger cnc machines .

[Thirteenth]

ok.....NEW PROBLEM.

 

i dont remember exactly what it said, but something along the lines of...

 

SW limits not feasable or something like that, will find out exactly what it says monday.

[chris m]

Its always lovely when one problem goes away and another arises. Are we sure that that other problem is no longer a problem?

 

Anything alarm that says 'limit' in it usually means that the program is trying to send the machine outside of its working envelope.

 

Are you actually trying to run the program at this point?

 

For us to be much of any help to you we need the exact nature of any alarm you might get. It would also be very helpful if you dug out the manual for the machine and gave us their description of the problem since I don't think many of us are familiar with these machines.

 

C

[Thirteenth]

yea, im actually trying to run the program now.

 

the machine..aye..well its pretty old i believe. small thats for sure.

 

im wondering, would the placement of the object in mastercam, like on the screen in relation to the point 0,0,0 effect the limits? if so, i think this might be the problem...lmk.

[Scott Bond]

Hi

When you have your part on the screen in Mastercam and you hit the F9 key , you will see some cross hairs showing part home.

This home will be the equivelent as G54.

[Thirteenth]

yep, i know about the f9 and the x,y,z axies and what not.

 

now, that G54 you speak of....what is that.

[Scott Bond]

quote:

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now, that G54 you speak of....what is that.

---

When a guy turns on the machine he has some kind of cold start procedure, That is for "machine home" X=0,Y=0,Z=0 .

In an earlier post in this thread you have a G54.

The G54 is for the part home.

You need to set how far the part is from "Machine home" and type it into the machines control. That's the basic logic of it,But i'm not that familiar with your machine's control to do a step by step.

[chris m]

As Scott said G54 is a zero shift from the machine's XYZ zero points to the location of the part zero within the machine. This is typically done by edge-finding the fixed jaw of your vise, sweeping a bore, etc and inputting the coordinates into a work offset register in the machine control. I noticed that in your 'working' program example there are no work offset calls; does your machine support work offsets using the G54-style calls? The posted program looks like MPFAN code; is it? What post created the code that is in the 'working' example? There are too many things going on here that we don't know to really troubleshoot this.

 

C

 

[ 12-22-2003, 07:51 AM: Message edited by: chris m ]

[sir Camalot]

Something that I find really helpful is to model the machine table with fixtures, indexing locations and horizontal rotary, (all placed on different levels,)and then place the table's home position relative to MC's X0,Y0,Z0. Save the file as a machine specific setup and then merge the file to the part file when ready to machine the part.This gives me dead on placement for each type of machine when I position the part on the table.

[cadcam]

Thirteenth, I have a thought what about asking the instructor to come on here?