Max number of Operations??

[gcode]

One of the guys I work with has been working

on a program for a while now. Its a 5X program

that machines 4 wings from solid billet on a 5X

gantry mill. He's nearly done now. The MC9 file

is 400 meg and has 946 operations. He's running

a Xeon 2.8g with 2g of ram and it takes about 3 minutes to open the file. When you right click in the OPs manager it takes about 30 seconds for the right click menu to pop up.

My question is... Is there a finite number of operations you can have in an MC9 file, or is it just limited to what your computer can handle???

[Scott Bond]

In V8 it was 1500

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

Gcode thats the most ops that I have heard of.

 

What I do on files with many many ops is start new file and have not so many ops per file. I find it easier to keep up with, and I have the option to combine them if I choose. For verification purposes I save stl from each stage of process.

[crazy^millman]

Yeah tell him be gald he doesn't work here they would have expected that to be dont in 2 days 3 would bethe maxixum or people would go right into freak mode.

 

 

Crazy Millman

[gcode]

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they would have expected that to be done in 2 days

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I did a titanium 5X part last year that took me 4

months for fixture design, aluminum mock up,

first article and production tuning.

The wing guy has been on this one off an on for nearly 6 months.

The really bad part is that he's nearly done with the left wing. He still has to do the right, and

they are not mirrored parts.

[Fig sign]

I am with Jimmy !

I prefere simplicity !

And in molds most of time the work is one time one part and no time for licking it up.

I have one special group for corrections (one time operations ,change ,regen ,post and delete )

 

what I `d like to see in future releases of MC is the ability to place subgroups into groups for better operation managing .

 

[crazy^millman]

Oh I would love to have a week on some of the tihngs they expect to have done in hours. I was explaining to them 2 weeks ago we don't have any room for error. We also most times don't have time to tweak a program we have to get it right the first time and get it all figured out the first time. I just got the Thremwood 5 axis in and I told them that was my full time job at the Last place I was. I not only have that now, but some of the programmign on our other 6 VMC's, Quoting, Dealing with customers, Corridating, Purchase orders for Tooling and Material and Outside Vendors, and the other things that being a Superivior of a Department of a company involves. I am lucky though I got a good programmer who pick up alot of the things I cant get done while doing his full plate of work and 2 operators now but hope will be going to one more progrmamer soon and I also hope 2 more operators but have to see.

 

I was fully being funny is all. I got the Missle Tips showing up and they are thinking one day to program, make a fixture, and have the parts out the door. What is funny is the people who have no idea how to do my job keep trying to tell me time but have to always go to me for the times to quote jobs, and to get jobs done and I am the crazy one. Goes like I say no one listens to the Turtle.

 

Crazy Millman

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

5ax machining would have to be my favorite for many reasons, fixturing being way up on the list.

 

Tombstone machining or multible loadings/fixtures probably my least favorite cause of the time involved getting all the info together before programming.

 

last year I probably done more 5ax molds than anything else. (As far as nc programming goes.)

[crazy^millman]

Well Jimmy that is direction we are going to. I have right now about 20 molds in the process we do coming up. I also have all the production Machining and Protoype Machine we d oas well as the Visual Models so we are hoping.

 

Crazy Millman

[Ken Erman from CNC Software Inc.]

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what I `d like to see in future releases of MC is the ability to place subgroups into groups for better operation managing .

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Bingo - X already has unlimited sub-groups.

 

Ken

[Hardmill]

Very cool

Any more tid-bits you'd care to share?

Come on we won't tell anybody. We promise, Right guys.

 

PEACE

 

[ 01-18-2004, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: Hardmill ]

[Jimmy Wakeford from Barefoot CNC]

Millman,

Sounds like you have the "work" part of it out of the way and ready to start on the "fun" part.

[cadcam]

Hey Scott sounds like millmans doing waht you and me used to do for that compnay here in Santa Clarita.

 

They are a R&D shop .

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

I do everything in file as well. Fixtures, fixture programs, nuts, bolts, washers, clamps, vises (if necessary). My files do tend to get rather large but no biggie. gcode, I'd do it the same as your guy. As far as I know, the only limit would be your system and what it could handle. I'm sure there is a limit but it's probably like 32,000 or some insane number like that.

 

I asked for sub groups long ago, in Beta 9, and obviously many other did as well. Very Cool. Very cool.

[Scott Bond]

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Hey Scott sounds like millmans doing waht you and me used to do for that compnay here in Santa Clarita.

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You mean work?

[Scott Bond]

Good Morning

Was 1500 correct?

[Ray Culver]

Limited by the tree control to 32,167 or to the limits of your computer's memory - which ever runs out first.

[gcode]

Thanks for the reply. I thinks its safe to say

that memory is the limiting factor

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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...I thinks its safe to say

that memory is the limiting factor ...

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+1

 

You'd have to have one of those MONSTER servers that will accept up to like 48 processors... to get a machine that would accept a huge amount of RAM.

[crazy^millman]

Yeah they sell those at IBm for about $360,000 and they can take up to several 100 gig of memeory. You get bored one day go to the IBm website and type in soemthing like 48 gigs of memeory they can make them for about $30,000 dollars for you.

 

Crazy Millman