Benchmark 3.0

[OneExhaustedFather]

On 3/10/2023 at 12:19 AM, MWearne said:

 

Looks like your time was only op3 running.
 

I see what you're saying, I believe this is the correct operation then 137sec total operation correct?

[GF8er]

I keep getting the following error when I try and Regen the toolpaths.

[Simon Kausch]

On 4/9/2023 at 4:08 AM, GF8er said:

I keep getting the following error when I try and Regen the toolpaths.

Same here on Mastercam 2023 Update 4

[MWearne]

12 hours ago, Simon Kausch said:

Same here on Mastercam 2023 Update 4

Do you have a 3D license?

File works here on both 2023 and 2024...and everything before those. Would be very surprised if it just 'broke' for no reason.

[Simon Kausch]

5 hours ago, MWearne said:

Do you have a 3D license?

File works here on both 2023 and 2024...and everything before those. Would be very surprised if it just 'broke' for no reason.

Yes I have 3D and multiaxis here. The file worked when I used it the last time on MC 2022.

I tried a few things yesterday but can't get the hybrid OP to regen. I usually work with MM not inch maybe it's loading some weird settings altough Mastercam asks about chaning to inch when loading the file.

[cncappsjames]

Opened the 2023 file (all ops dirty) in2024, saved as 2024. Cleared the event log, Regenned it.

4:21 in 2024

[Simon Kausch]

3 hours ago, cncappsjames said:

Opened the 2023 file (all ops dirty) in2024, saved as 2024. Cleared the event log, Regenned it.

4:21 in 2024

That seems pretty slow, did you benchmark this system before?

[gcode]

This is my work machine

Win 10

Its a Boxx Apex 3 i9-11900K

liquid cooled and  OC'd to 5ghz and 128 GB of ram

2 minutes 41 seconds

 

On 3/9/2023 at 5:38 PM, OneExhaustedFather said:

This seems a bit faster than some of what I'm seeing, am I calculating this wrong?  I'm seeing 81sec from start to finish?  I see the fella above with a 13900 over 120sec and if I'm going to build these guys what they need I want to make sure I'm comparing things the same. 

 

Make sure you shut MC down and empty your Mastercam TEMP folder between runs.

The regen files are stored there and you will better times on subsequent runs because

Mastercam doesn't have to reproduce them

Also make sure the tolerance is set to .0001 in all the operations

 

[gcode]

I updated my home PC to Win11 a couple of weeks ago

I have not had any troubles with Mastercam or any of my other CAD/CAM software

I'll run the benchmark file on it and see if there is any difference between Win10 and 11

[cncappsjames]

6 hours ago, Simon Kausch said:

That seems pretty slow, did you benchmark this system before?

 

On 2/19/2023 at 5:00 PM, cncappsjames said:

Windows 11 fresh install - 03:54

Dell Precision 7750 Mobile Workstation
Intel Core i9-10885H @2.4GHz
64GB RAM DDR4 @3200 MHz
NVidia Quadro RTX 4000
Samsung 990 EVO Pro PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD
3D Connexion SpaceNavigator
Windows 11 Pro
Mastercam 2023 Update 3

and getting slower...

It should definitely be faster...

Edit:

I ran it setting Mastercam to High Priority and it dropped 20 seconds off the time, but it was still 4:01.

[Jobnt]

1 hour ago, gcode said:

I updated my home PC to Win11 a couple of weeks ago

I won't be using Win 11 for many reasons. Mostly because they took away another large set of customizability. They're going the way of the Macintosh.

The Task Bar absolutely sucks and is locked to the bottom of the screen and you can't drag stuff to it. 

The Start Menu is unfriendly as hell and I've had ads on it. WTF? I paid for this xxxx!

They force you to create a Microcrap account.

They force you to use their TPM crap.

The context menus are crap.

They push their crappy Edge browser like they did Internet Exploder.

Most of this is non-negotiable for me. You all know how long I ran with WinXP right?

[gcode]

7 hours ago, cncappsjames said:

I ran it setting Mastercam to High Priority and it dropped 20 seconds off the time, but it was still 4:01.

Do you mean High Priority on the Multithreading page? 

[gcode]

My home machine ran the Benchmark in 3 min 38 seconds

Its a Boxx Apex 3 running a i9-9900K liquid cooled processor,

OC'd to 5 GHZ with 96g of ram

OS is Win 11 Pro

My work rig is about 18 months newer than my home machine

it's i9-11900 chip has a Passmark Score  of 25462

My home rig with it's i9-9900K has a PassMark score of 18.469

That is too much difference to make any judgement on whether Mastercam runs faster

or slower on Win11 vrs Win 10

 

 

 

[Simon Kausch]

11 hours ago, Jobnt said:

I won't be using Win 11 for many reasons. Mostly because they took away another large set of customizability. They're going the way of the Macintosh.

The Task Bar absolutely sucks and is locked to the bottom of the screen and you can't drag stuff to it. 

The Start Menu is unfriendly as hell and I've had ads on it. WTF? I paid for this xxxx!

They force you to create a Microcrap account.

They force you to use their TPM crap.

The context menus are crap.

They push their crappy Edge browser like they did Internet Exploder.

Most of this is non-negotiable for me. You all know how long I ran with WinXP right?

This pushed me over to Linux at home, haven't used Windows in 6 months. Too bad most CAD/CAM software is Windows only

[gcode]

I went to my dealer's 2024 Rollout this week.

They made a big deal about how much faster 2024 was compared to 2023.

I ran the Benchmark file in both to test this.

I have noticed 2024 is faster in some toolpaths, the Module Works 5X tool paths for example.

2024 is not faster running this benchmark file.

On my work machine

2023 ran in 2:40

2024 ran in 2:41

[Jobnt]

8 hours ago, Simon Kausch said:

This pushed me over to Linux at home, haven't used Windows in 6 months. Too bad most CAD/CAM software is Windows only

I have a couple of linux boxes at home. I really can't stand windows any more but like you say, most CAD/CAM software is windows only so they have you by the short-n-curlies. 

[Johnny M]

New Computer Mastercam 2024

Just a little over 2:00 if I'm reading this right 

Computer

Dell Precision 3660 Tower 13th Generation

Intel Core i9-13900K

Windows 10 Pro  64GB, 4x16GB, DDR5 Nvidia RTXA4000, 3660T 512GB PCIe NVMe Class 40 M.2 SSD

[MWearne]

3 hours ago, gcode said:

I went to my dealer's 2024 Rollout this week.

They made a big deal about how much faster 2024 was compared to 2023.

2023 ran in 2:40

2024 ran in 2:41

All those extra goodies they put into the toolpaths every year take extra time to calculate, eg leads, retracts, etc.

In my limited research, I've found 2021 to be the fastest version...at least for this benchmark file. Things may be different with other toolpaths and other systems.

Question is, are you ok with with more toolpath control in exchange for calc time? I think we mostly are, specially if we are running the latest and greatest CPUs which make this lost time almost a non factor...think running mcam2021 on an intel 10th gen (greatest CPU at that time) vs mcam2024 on intel 13th gen (best now). The newer chip is so much faster that the toolpath with more information to crunch will take less time.

Numbers for me today with this file, sample size of 1....

2021 3:25

2024 3:40

[cncappsjames]

On 7/27/2023 at 8:34 AM, MWearne said:

....Question is, are you ok with with more toolpath control in exchange for calc time?

Yeah, for the most part, the motion control trumps the calculation time at this point. Also, it's pretty rare that I'm setting tolerances down much below 5-10µm (.00019-.00039).  .0001" is about 2.5µm.

[gcode]

Got my new PC this week

I'm still putting it together but I ran the benchmark last night in 2024

2 minutes , 2 seconds

The OS is Win11 Pro 

 

 

[gcode]

I forgot to mention that this machine came from Xi Computers of San Clemente CA.

I bought it with this ridiculous case that's twice the size of a normal case.

Here at the office, I don't notice the noise my BOXX PC makes cause it's noisy in here all the time.

At my home office, my old BOXX PC sounds like fighter jet spooling up for takeoff.

I can't even tell  this new Xi machine is running.

NewEgg

 

 

[crazy^millman]

5 hours ago, gcode said:

Got my new PC this week

I'm still putting it together but I ran the benchmark last night in 2024

2 minutes , 2 seconds

The OS is Win11 Pro 

 

 

Good solid choice.

I would have gotten the 128gb of memory and the 2tb 990 Pro drives.

Glad the side hustle is still going well for you.

Here is the Laptop I would get from them. About $1000 cheaper than Dell.

[ikertx0]

where can i donwload the file?

[Jake L]

New computer day! 

Intel i9-14900k liquid cooled overclocked to 6.0GHz

96GB RAM

NVIDIA RTX A4000

1TB Samsung SSD 990 PRO

ran the benchmark 3 times, all 3 runs within a second:

 

[gcode]

Nice machine, where did you buy it??