I just looked through the settings and parameters but have not found anyhting promising... What to the Haas techs have to say about it? I'd be curious to know.

I'm thinking setting 85 MAx corner rounding. Seems I ran into that long ago in a previous life.... My mini is set at .005 Have a look see and see if they are different

I'm thinking the pointer to your post is not right. Or as has been mentioned, your machine def and or control def are corupt Have a look There is a setting in the post as well as the control def that controls I&K's or R's

I remember the original post James did on the G8's and G5.1's Great info. I usually use G8's but may start looking at G5.1's. As I understand it, in my 0iMc control with AI Nano, I have 120 blocks of look ahead controled by G8's and I think 40 blocks using the G5.1's. I'll have to go back and look at the book...

Indeed it is...

I thinkit really depend on where you are located for how happy you will be with Haas. I have a mini I am quite happy with. My lathe breaks so often it is not funny. It will not hold a thou over time so there is little point in barfeeding. Which don't work so well anyway. I'm not hating on Haas. I own two of them. Mine are paid for also, so that little dig don't hold much water... Service is abysmal here. I have NEVER had the service dept at the factory even return a call. My HFO is notorious for poor service. I made a bad choice buying one. Granted my machine is a lemon. But the mark of a great company is how they deal with the problems. Haas has chosen to completely ignore my problems. I have chosen to never deal with them again. Will one make you money? Sure it will. If you can keep it running. Are there machines out there that offer a better ROI? You better believe there are!!! Oh yea...My SL10... It's 60 days are up. It just crapped the hydraulic pump. And the three month old X axis servo is gettin noisy. Again...

quote: dradracer1951 ive heard nothing but crap about that lathe for so long if its that big a problum WHY DIDNT YOU SEND IT BACK ???????i guess just a really poor decision on your part The machine was never right from the beginning. It is LONG since out of warantee. Haas has told me tough sh!t for you. They have absolutely refused to make it right. My bad decision was buying one in the first place. Do you OWN one or are you just flappin your lips? I actually PAY for mine. Not just work on it. It is absolutely a piece of junk. Haas couldn't care less if I'm not happy with it. There are 1300 more lined up every month to buy one. The barfeed is simply a joke. Have you ever actually RUN one or are you just blindly defending them? I don't know why you're so upset...it ain't your machine.

quote: Most of the guys bad mouthing Haas here work for shops with deep pockets and have never had to buy one with their own money, so take their advice with a grain of salt... Well... I own the shop. I own two Haas machines. I have a Mini an dan SL10 with a barfeed. I got no b!tches with the Mini. Outside of the fact that it is billed as a 7 1/2 hp machine... It's been pretty relaible. The SL10 is a piece of garbage. The Servo300 is a piece of garbage. My SL10 breakes every 60 days like clockwork. The barfeed is the SLOWEST barfeed I have EVER seen in my life. Bar none. It will drop the push bar on top of an incomming bar every time, alarming it out. If you drop a rem from the barfeed in the machine it'll kill the auger. It's REALLY poorly designed. It's REALLY poorly assembled. It is a piece of junk. Has it made me money? probably. I ain't just sure yet cause it costs me a pile of money every 60 days in parts, service and lost production. Personally, I thinkHaas stuff is OK if you're just starting out and that's all you can afford. But really, most guys just starting out have no idea how to calculate ROI. Or why they should. They are buying on price alone. We've simply outgrown Haas stuff. I'll keep what I have cause I can't sell them for much of anything. I'll use them where I can. I'm buying a 4020 Fadal that's in my new building also. I'm not a Fadal guy at all but it's a good deal, and I can put it to use. I'm getting a Horizontal and most likely a second one to do Ti and Inconel on. Market to the machine!!!

Wasn't my Haas. But, I was talking to Don last night and he suggested that it may be caused by the contour being an open contour as at the end it would be a retract move and not a clearance move. Now, that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me as there is a check bos to restrain the clearance move to the beginning and end of the op, which was not checked. Now...in my mind, this would omply that if not checked...it would put a clearance move into every Z move in the op. But it did not. As I said, it has worked as I expected it to for many years. Just not yesterday. I'm a bit confused as to why. I like it when things are predictable...

I have used the clearance tab like this for at LEAST ten years. Worked just fine. At least I've never had an issue with it. It would behave as I've discribed if I had the Use at begining and end of op box checked. But when it's not checked it would simply apply that clearance value to every move, rough, finish... Not this time.

You've got mail Don.

Not a pocket, contour. No, "keep tool down" is not checked.

No John. It's set absolute. Clearance checked. Set to 3.0 inches Absolute. The "Use clearance only at start and end of operation" box is unchecked.

Let me tell you about how happy I am that the three inch clearance height on a contour only works at the beginning and end of a toolpath even when you have the "use clearance only at start and end" box unchecked.....So when it gets done roughing and moves to the beginning of the cut again to finish...it only lifts up to .25 instead of 3 inches like I told it to. Just cost me about $200 in cutters. Wacked the crap out of my clamps.... This is with MPMaster post.....

Titex is IMHO even better than Guhring. Cobalt, for sure though.

I'll let you talk to my wife. She pays the bills. She will no doubt give you her opinion of Haas machines. I WILL admit that the mills are far better thanthe turning centers. But that ain't sayin much.

Aw Man....

Unable to communicate? Hmmmm....I seem to remember my Ex saying something about that. Prolly dosn't matter though.

Email sent Don...

This is an interesting discussion... I am also looking at a multi axis mill turn machine. My machine tool dealer is also the local Esprit reseller. Now, They know that I am quite happy using Mastercam, But they stopped by to show me Esprit. It is VERY impressive stuff. I don't mean just the eye candy either. Thia is some very powerfull software. Mastercam could be that good. I am also in the camp of lets fix what we are using daily before we come out with marketing stufff like Art. There are a lot of features I'd like to see in Lathe. I'm not alone there. I just discovered that X2 does tabs. It was right there in plain sight... I'm sure there are many other things that I am so caught up in my own way of doing things that I just never noticed before. I know the High Speed toolpaths have issues. I REALLY wish those things would get addressed. Here's a tiny little one...How come the list of recent commands does not include the edit/trim command after a save???? It's just a tiny little thing but it costs me a bunch of mouse clicks a day. Been that way since Ver X first came out. Will X3 be better? You bet!! WouldI like some long standing things fixed? Yes. My hats off to all of you guys that do the Beta testing, the software developers at CNC because it's you guys that allow me to make a living, grow my shop and not have to go work for someone else. Now then.... Where's my X3???

Yes Don I am. Send me an email, I have lost your home email. Pretty smart on my part Eh?

Nice parrenting skills John We ain't SMART enough to be a Beta site. Don't know if I'd want to either. Not much love for these guys that work pretty hard for MC to be as good as it is. Sounds to me like just another whinner....

I asked about this before. Some people told me of reliability issues. I have been talking to the Kitamura rep, and he took me to see three different shops that are using them. So.... I'm going to ask about SPECIFIC reliability issues. And the companies that own those machines. Please feel free to email me that info instead of putting it up on the forum. I'm not asking about opinions, I'm asking about verifiable relaibility issues.... Thanks. This owning a shop stuff is tricky, huh?

It's nastier than 304 if it's annealed.... I do some parts for a marine assembly every month. I keep on tellin the customer to heat treat the material. he never does. I cut it up and put it in the HT furnace in the corner... I learned that one after I trashed about $200 worth og threaders one day before I realized the stuff was annealed.....

But my question remains, wasn't X3 exhibited at Westech? Would it not be somewhat reasonable to think that it is close to being ready if that were the case?