Dirty Operations, Again!!

[peon]

After reading the archives, I have realized that I'm not the only one having a problem with all of my operations going dirty. I have to regenerate several surfacing operations and this is getting ridiculous. I think I finally pinpointed what actually causes this problem, but I don't know how to fix it. If I have two MCX sessions open (different files), and read a new file, it causes the other session to wig out and cause the operations to go dirty. But.... if I close one session, and open a new file, I don't have the problem. Has there been a fix for this problem yet?

[Jack Neelands™]

not that i know of yet matt...i have dual core and a gig of ram and have the same problem...even when the ops are locked....so i gave up using two sessions

[Thad]

We run 2-4 sessions at a time without problems and our PCs barely meet the minimum systems requirements of MCX.

 

Thad

[Bruce Caulley]

Same here, multiple sessions = dirty ops.

[Mcam Nut]

I run multi sessions all the time without a problem. Wonder if this is a video card issue?

[peon]

Hmmm. This certainly sucks! Mcamnut, I have the same video card that you're using. I also have the unified back buffer disabled. I hope this problem is fixed with X2. Thanks for the reply gentleman!

[kinglouie V]

this happens to me occasionally too.

 

example.....

 

 

running NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT w/256mb ram.

also dual pent4 3.2ghz w/2.00G ram.

 

one question just out of curiosity. Not to blame the X+ or anything but has this happened to anyone that wasn't running it? I've also noticed (because of op mgr background color other than white) that sometimes white boxes will contain the operations in the op mgr when moving multiple operations around to resequence. I just wondering if the two situations are related since this doesn't seem to be going on accross the board.

[Cuda84]

Actually this happens to a workstation here quite often. This computer dose not have X+ installed on it. I have it on my computer and only occasionally have this problem.

[Fig sign]

I am still on ver9 .

It can happen in 9 too in some rare occasions .

I am always multisession ,but this happens to me only 1-3 times a year .

IF IT HAPPENS ONCE ,HIGH PROBABILITY IT CAN HAPPEN ON SAME FILE NEXT TIME .

sO i SIMPLY LOCK MY TOOLPATHES AND THAT`S IT .

I have no time to play digging what caused it .

If you lock your toolpath ,at least it will be preserved and you willno waste your time on regeneration each time you open it

[Fig sign]

yOU HAVE HIGHER CHANCES to get it IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 200-300 TOOLPATHES and more than 50 groupes

[Mcam Nut]

I have had this happen in the past, actully I had many problems similar to this, I was running the latest nvidea drivers at the time, I now run driver version 7.7.5.6, and I dont have nearly as many problems, and I do run x+. maybe take a look at what drivers you are running and try using these drivers if you arent already.

[Müřlıń®]

quote:

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sO i SIMPLY LOCK MY TOOLPATHES AND THAT`S IT

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+1000

 

Very simple fix....I have been locking them down since associativity was born....

[peon]

I still get dirty ops with the operations locked.

[Zoober]

I randomly get dirty ops, locked or not (MUST regen to post) if I run multi session.

I just don't run multi anymore - period. Now, abra cadabra, no dirty ops!

[Fig sign]

I never work less than 2 files .

Multisession up to 5-6 files .

The only thing set Autosave to work on the file you really need to sAVE OR SET DIFFERENT names ,otherwise you may end with your original file scrapped without a backup ,and that`s even worse than dirty ops

[beej]

I'm having dirty ops problems bad today. I hadn't had any problems for a couple of weeks then had to run 2 sessions yesterday and today and boom they start up again.

 

I can't even guess how much time this has cost me.

[peon]

I hear ya! My partner just had to regen over 50 ops, about 30 of them were surfacing toolpaths. We are not the slightest bit pleased. We're already getting some heat from the management.

[kinglouie V]

quote:

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I never work less than 2 files .

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oh wise owl, are you X yet?

[Johnny05]

If you get the error regenerating operation warning you can copy and paste the operation below. Then you can regen.

[Colin Gilchrist]

Bottom Line: Don't run multiple sessions of Mastercam X at once. Problem solved. If you want the ability to run multiple sessions, kindly send a request to [email protected] and ask them to fix it.

 

Thanks,

 

Colin Gilchrist

The Boeing Company

MR2 and Beta test site

[Chris Bell CNC Software]

Hello gentlemen -

 

I found a bug in MR2 that caused operations to be marked dirty when multiple instances of Mastercam were running. When multiple instances are being used, the binary NCI file of the second sessions is supposed to be stored in a subfolder in the temp directory. But what happened on occasions was that the temp folder for the second session ended up being the same as the first, so when File / Open of File / New was used in the second session, the operations in the first were essentially deleted.

 

This bug has been fixed in X2. Does the following situation sound at all similar to what is going on with your part files? As Colin said, if you have any way of successfully duplicating the bug, please send QC an e-mail with the parts and steps to reproduce the problem.

 

Thanks!

[gcode]

V9 never had the operations go dirty, but running multiple sessions with lots of solids could get you in trouble.

In V9 I used to make a seperate config files,

one using C:temp1 the other using C:|temp2

One session of V9 would use the Temp1 folder, the other Temp2. It took a lillte work to set it up.

seperate config files and desktop icons etc, but it worked. I never had trouble running 2 sessions of V9.

I haven't tried this in MR2, but I suspect a similar sceme would make a good workaround till X2 comes out.

 

[ 09-15-2006, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: gcode ]

[peon]

Chris. That is the EXACT problem we have! I hope you nailed it! We'll be looking forward for the X2 upgrade. Thank you!

[beej]

EXCELLANT Chris!

 

You da man! I was convinced it was something like that. but do to poor mental faculties was unable to prove it.

 

Can't wait to get X2 now.

[Guest]

I hope this finally puts to bed what's been going on with this problem.

 

Good Work Chris