O/T Mastercam on Ebay Again

[robk]

Don't these people know any better?

This guy even gives his Sim #.

 

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...77&category=182

 

Rob

[Toolfab]

Never seen anyone ACTUALLY put there sim number right there for all to see. That is really a good move

 

I wonder when someone will sell a service agreement on ebay..lmao

 

[ 10-15-2003, 12:24 PM: Message edited by: Toolfab ]

[Bullines]

I'm just reiterating the protocol for this situation.

[Thad]

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This guy even gives his Sim #.

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Then he should be very easy to track down.

 

Thad

[robk]

Thanks Bullines... He's been "reported"

 

Rob

[pimij]

Gee, now why didn't I think of that - I have a couple of dead seats of Pro/E to sell...

 

hmmmm.. could probably get more than 1600 for them too! But then the lawsuit/charges that would follow will probably wipe that out.

 

Oh well back on the shelf they go... along with solution 3000, ADX, CAMAND. They do pile up after a while.

[Müřlıń®]

*****Plays Taps******

 

Another one bites the dust.....

 

Murlin

[Brendan P]

I got the real scoop on what happens to these guys.

[Toolfab]

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I got the real scoop on what happens to these guys

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Well don't leave us hangin.......what happens to them??

[crazy^millman]

What no takers. I mean come on it is such a great deal. I know you are not worried about that breaking the agreement thing that says you only have the right to use Mastercam and not sell it. I can't imagine anyone would really care. I tell you what you dont say nothing I want say nothing. I also heard it comes with free posts for every machine ever made at no extra cost.

 

Crazy Millman

[Lathe-Mill]

bucket, go man , tell us what happens

[Rekd™]

I would like to state that this guy prolly has not um, read the EULA. Therefore is ignorant to the fact that it's against the law.

 

That makes it ok..

 

'Rekd

[Lathe-Mill]

i do not agree with piracy and all of that, but.

if that is a legit copy, 100% legal.

my question is:

can't you sell it?...like you will sell a car or a house etc...

i am not a software expert, sorry.

[Rekd™]

No, Carlos. You can't sell it. You don't own it.

 

'Rekd

[crazy^millman]

Read the agreement that frist pops up when you install mastercam you in essence are only leasing the software from CNC software you dont own it.

 

Crazy Millman

[chris m]

Only in America could we invent the concept of buying something for $##K but not owning it

 

C

 

[ 10-16-2003, 01:45 PM: Message edited by: Dave Thomson ]

[Lathe-Mill]

wow that is pretty f,,,,d up, how can that be?

lease?

damm, you lease it for 13 grand?..

i better make no comment on thatone

[Lathe-Mill]

is that is the case why that guy wont "returned it to mastercam and have at least a % back of his money?. fair i think, since you can not sell it

[SledGeek]

Anybody leasing a car...........

[J Coulston]

Fairness doesn’t matter when you don’t make the rules. What would happen if you bough out a company that owned a license?

 

Hmm now I have to think. How did I enter MC on the books? Was it set up as an asset or an expense? If I don’t own it has to be an expense so it cant be depreciated. Did I use any of my Section 179 allowance on it? Guess I would file an amended 2002 return to save a few large.

 

Calling the CPA in the morning.

 

John

[J Coulston]

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Anybody leasing a car...........

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With most leases there are provisions for the lessee to take ownership at end of the term. Fair market value, $1 buyout, agreed upon amount, ect.

 

Software EULA = just a weird animal.

 

John

[Lathe-Mill]

again, no idea about software, but when you buy it, you bought a copy, not the "software developing",you're not buying a "share" of the company, although you can sell that too. the software will continue growing, you just bought a tool to help you to draw and machine something, you buy a car to get around, a house to live in, food to feed yourself, etc...

you don't want something?...you sell it, give it away or trash it, but before trash it if you can make a buck you will do it...right?..

hummm, weird.

just me.

[Lathe-Mill]

i think what am trying to say is, people is not buying part or the whole company, it's the product. it will be nice if cnc software at least buy it back for a small %, that way people wont go and do things the other way.

that is as long 100% legal seat.

[gcode]

A while back, I worked for a company that was closing down their manufacturing operations and moving out of the country. They owned about $150K

worth of software including Mastercam, Hypermill, Autocad, Solidworks etc. They wanted me to sell it all and get some of their money back. I spent a couple of days on the phone trying.

 

The policy for reselling a software lisence

is pretty much the same through out the industry.

 

You cannot legally sell a software license. You did not buy the software, merely the rights to use it.

You might get someone to buy your SIM from you, but they will not be able to get support or upgrades and they may have turn the SIM in.

 

Some software companies will transfer a lisense for a fee, if you buy 100% of the assets of a company. By the terms of the lisense agreement, they don't have to, and that works on a case by case basis.

[Lathe-Mill]

hummm..well i just learn something 2day.

thnx.