Ditto

I only use wear comp. 1. I do not need to have the code agree with the print. 2. I like my tool table cutter comp to start out all zeros and change them +- a few .001 as needed. 3. I don't have to enter the different tool dia's into the table every setup and won't make entry errors because all tools are zero dia. 4. As Jim said comping in and out are now shorter distances. However in the days when we used to hand code it was alot earier to go from print to code using on line code with off line comp. (Comp in Control)

The guys who work for me only supply their own safety glasses. But if they forget them I have some for them. In this county it is hard to find a machinist with their own tools. The other side of the coin is I only have one guy at a time working for me and I work at the same time so tools do not get abused and I always have spares. I have plenty of mics for 2 guys working so they really dont need tools. In a big shop this is more difficult to manage because tools get abused stolen etc. So a bigger shop must require guys to have tools and even drill sets. When I worked for big shops 35 years ago I had my own drills , my choice, (They would replace them) and it was a lot more convenient not sharing shop drills. There were no inserts, grind your own HSS and Carbide tipped only. (they supplied the blanks) It was the big drills that the last user left dull which made all the machinists angry. But a bitching machinst is a happy machinist we used to say. If you love this trade you just have to work with the way it is. If you dont, do something else. Inserts are expensive and not usually re-sharpened so I would expect they would be provided. Unless of course they paid you $85/hr So, be glad your in this trade, it is the best trade there is and I dont mean the $ because we have always been notoriously paid less. It is the most satisfying work I have ever found and no matter how little I made I would still choose it. However, I would not necessarily recommend owning a machine shop. Loooong hours, weekends, and less actual machining time and a huge financial gamble. Employee problems become your problems, all manner of government regulation to conform to. etc, etc. Only some of you would want that. I actually enjoy owning a shop but it is not for everyone.

I have a mori sl15 with 0t fanuc. parameters are 744 (X OD), 743(X ID), 745 (Z Left sensor), 746 (Z Right sensor) My settings are: 744 123194 743 42635 745 -40234 746 0 Yours will no doubt be different. 1000 of these units is .0394" (1mm). So, 123194 is 4.8045". OR each 1 of these is .0000394" Or each 25.4 of these is .001" Keep in mind X are in diameter dimensions. Also, take into account cutter radius or use a sharp tool and program toolpath for 0 cutter radius. Take a test cut on OD and if small say -.010" then incrase #744 by about 254 (.010 x .0000394) Then take another cut and measure. Repeat until get correct Dia. Do the same for #743 with an ID tool. Make # 746 0 Touch a facing tool to Z Right probe. Face the part at a progammed Z0. Then: #745 will be the distance from the right to the left probe. This is a little tricky but as I recall I used a back facing tool and touched the probe and then put a parallel or something similar on the face of the test piece and and move the tool to a programmed Z0 spindle off and see how close you are to face of the part with the parallel. estimate the error and adjust #745 accordingly. ( You could actually bolt a flat washer to the face of the part and back face it to see exactly where you are. Repeat until it is perfect. THEN bump the toolsetter (as I did) and start all over again ........DUH

On our Mori, 1990, we use an expanding split sleeve on the turret to pull stock. In this case you have to use Z2.0 to get puller off of stock after pull. In the case above you would be using a puller with 2 fingers and would pull off in the X direction. For multiple parts we use a short main program with a counter in it and call up the main program for the part and puller: o100 (This progam number) N100 G20 N102 M98 P0020101 (where 0029 is repetitions and 0101 is the part program number ) N156 M30

Ditto with heavy. Equal area, canned, full profile tool, and thread mic (Calibrated on a known good thread), and adjust at machine till perfect.

I also am using V9.1 only and only expeimenting in X when I have time. My customer jobs come first and software changes second. It is too much transition for the time I have available and too much gamble for me at this point. I suspect CNC will get X ironed out after time and a half and then I will be more than willing to work with it. I am definitely looking forward to that time. In the meantime I will keep paying maintenance and hope for the best.

Ditto on the window.

Me too!

I use corel 8 and the dxf file trace imports nicely into mc9.1 I do not know what autocad ver the dxf export is.

I am in the same boat. I cannot update to sp1 either. I get errors 1335 1334 2350 1603 at different times. I worked with cnc tech and we were not able to cure the problem. So I am waiting for MR1 and try that. It may not work either. I have not had time yet to install X in my other computer and attempt it there. In the meantime 9.1.

I'm printing at 1.013 scale to get 1:1

David, From your info: fmt Q 2 thdfirst$ #First depth cut in thread pg76old #G76 threading old style pbld, n$, *sthdgcode, pfxout, pfzout, *thdrdlt, *thddepth$, *thdfirst$, *thdang, pffr, e$ G76 X9.738 Z-12.31 I0. K.887 D197 A29 E1.27 It looks like the pg76 old section is what is outputing your code. It is the only one that matches up. The *thdfirst$ is outputing D197 But the fmt uses Q So, D must replace Q somewhere in your post. You can search for it if you want. However, as I understand it you are getting a desired output. It might be interesting to find where D replaces Q but may not be necessary. You could also replace Q with D in the fmt statement and see what happens. So let us know what you decide. Andy

Your controller probably requires a D in the G76 line for first pass. So, if your are getting a D then I guess your ok. But I still do not understand why the Q does not output with that format statement. Look for a postline called pg76new or pg76old or pg76...... look for a line similar to this: pbld, n, *sthdgcode, pfxout, pfzout, *thddepth, *thdfrsts, *thdrdlt, pffr, e This is where the output takes place and on the pbld line look for the thdfirst$ and see if it is there. If something else is there then figure it out from there. Maybe the D is forced there with "D".

Seems like your post ought to output a Q for thdfirst$ with that format.????

David, In my lathe post I needed DXXXX where X are all integers. So, I made a Format statement: FS 15 0 4tn (where the 4 could be a 3 for DXXX and the t is for trailing zeros) Make sure you assign D to 15 (In your case 22)in your fmt assignment. It should work as you said. Unless 21 is the limit for fmt assignment numbers. Or, you could change the fs 16 statement from a 4 to a 3 and it looks like it would give you what you want. As long as fs 16 is not used for anything else that you use in the post.

Terry, I do not get a paycheck. So, every second does count to me. I get paid when the customer sends the check. The amount of money I make is totally dependent on how efficiently my time is used. If I was getting a paycheck I could afford to be less concerned about a few seconds here and a few there. What is a small thing to one person could be something quite else to another. But thank you for your opinion it helps to reinforce my opinion about efficiency.

Thad, I totally agree with you. It is not just having to type the name but to remember to do it. The file name and the nc name have always defaulted to the same name. I am used to that for 7 years. It saves me time. I not only have to program, but have to set up and run the job, inspect the job, and find the file 2 years from now when I do it again. So now that I am trying to use X it is a constant irritant to have to manually type the name for the nc file in addition to creating a new path to be where the MCX file is located (saddly no more setdir). I need to spend my time getting the job done and not sitting in front of a computer and being distracted by this constant inconvenience. I suspect that near everyone is changing that nc name now (in addition to the path) and if it defaulted to the file name then those who want would still be able to change it. So, CNC, at least you can help the bunch of us who want the same as filename and not hurt anyone else.

Email sent per James, good idea!

Thanks Mike, I know right where that is and can easily do it.

Hessigc, +100000000

Well, it is not set in my post but I could modify it. In V9 it did not have to be in post.

Well, the C-Hook "setdir" solved this in V9. But there is no setdir for X. This path thing in X really sucks. One has to set paths individually for all 4 file types every time you start a file. See other threads on this subject.

Does anyone know how to have the program number default to "1" instead of "0" so you don't have to enter a number every time you do a new job?

I have brought the setdir issue up before. I really liked the way it would set the path for all four file types to the same folder. MC9, NC, DOC, NCI. In that way one could get on with the more important CAD/CAM work and not have to fool with the path. With X you can use project directory but it does not set the path for all four file types. So everytime you start a file you have to set paths one at a time and hope you did it correctly. I think it is a real pain to deal with. Worse, when you go from mill to lathe the file paths will still be pointing to the last mill folder.