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Does anyone have experience with this type of control? We are looking at replacing a machine with a DMG GMX mill turn with this thing on it. Right now we have 18i and 31i. Any feedback on both DMG and Siemens would be helpful. Thanks. Mike

If you are only programing for single turret, MC works fine. Multiple turrets gets pretty tricky, not to mention big bucks if you want to simulate it. Also, mori NL is a box way machine. Big difference from guides for rigidity when turning heavy stuff. Mike

Nakamura nx has a real fanuc 31i where as Mori has the crapps interface on top if 31i to complicate things. Mori NT is a true Y machine where as the Integrex mark series and nokamura has double slant Y which limits your travels severely. The e-series integrex is true Y but those start at a 12" chuck machine. Kinda big. The new mori CrappsIV control is Windows based (has own pros and cons) but it comes with Esprit in it and an off line seat. Esprit looks to handle multiple turrets a lot better than MC at the moment. I think the mori NT is a better machine if your doing mill type parts through the spindle and need real Y axis. What type of parts are you doin? Mike

That will be pretty helpful. Now lets start workiing on lathe verify. Maybe full machine simulation. Mike

A Little info http://www.gefanuc.com/products/3262

What type of machine is it? Our mill turns with 18i can only position 5. Our full 5 machine is 31i. Mike

Nope, Need a 31i Mike

Could be anything. On our machines it's parts catch up and down. I would use a manual entry or change at point to get it exactly where you want it. Mike

A little bit. Seems like orders that used to be for 2,000 pcs are now for 200 though. Kind of enjoying the slowdown and only workin 40hrs a week. More time for fun. Mike

Dave, Can't you just punch the offset page to the pmcia card and load it when you run the program. Or better yet, call up the offset program in the main program. Best case would be 300 offset option. Pretty sure its only $500 for fanuc. Mike

Like James said, without tool monitoring/breakage detection, it is a lot harder to do. We use tool monitoring on just about every part we do, even small qty. It is super easy to set up. For high production I would recomend HP coolant. Also, a good chiller is a must to keep the machine cutting consistant. Overall just remember process stability and reliabily is more important than cycle time when running lights out. Mike

Those thinks sound like a 747 spooling up on the tarmac. We uses to have a couple. Just get HP coolant. Less noise.

.002 is pretty aggresive for 1/16 in 304. Try like .0005 30sfm should do ok. Mike

Im with Gcode. Awsome machine. Do you know what these parts are for? Mike

Multus is a bigger machine so it can handle a wider variety of parts. Tsugami might be easier to work in. Tsugami has a Fanuc control which is more flexable. I would go capto over KM. Larger variety of tooling available and a more rigid system. Both those are good bar feeds. Have you looked at barloaders? Cheaper and a lot faster to set up. You have more reminent but with the parts these machines make it's not usually an issue. Mike

It looks so nice I would be scared to use it.

I do not have experience with this exact machine but as far as programing it with mastercam, you should be set. As long as it isn't a multi turret machine you should be fine. On our single path B axis mill turns MC does great with a dialed in post from In house. Mike

If you have a regular hasp all that would be involved is downloading off the mc website and bringing the hasp home. If it's a net hasp it's a little more tricky but I know it's possible. Mike

Ron, The NL is just basic slant bed w/ Y and sub. Mastercam should do fine. Your thinking of the NT multitasking machine. And I share your frustration with MMT. I'm glad when someone brings it up though. Squeeky wheel gets the oil after all. Mike

Mill turn. That is all.

A gun/deep hole drilling company could probably to it pretty easy. Mike

Yep change rotary to C axis

I still want to know.