Blazing a new toolpath

[Art@Pegasus_Tool]

As we all thirst for what’s new and improved. Thought this was a interesting article in Tooling & Production .

http://www.manufacturingcenter.com/tooling...0605blazing.asp

 

Art

[Hardmill]

Hey Art would you mind posting the article

some of us can't see past e-mastercam-land.

 

 

PEACE

[mayday]

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some of us can't see [Cool] past e-mastercam-land.

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hey regrind pull your head outta your......

 

there are some good theory points in that article.

we tend to remain "Old School". I think most shops do. most all our operators are veteran manual machines guys. its hard to throw new ideas at them without some griping about it. most like a program they can look at and understand when doing 2d work. when I give them a tricod toolpath they usually come back with a WTF is that?

[Psychomill]

+10 Mayday...

 

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its hard to throw new ideas at them without some griping about it.

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+100 Mayday....

 

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when I give them a tricod toolpath they usually come back with a WTF is that?

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+1000 Mayday...

 

[Storkman]

Careful Psycho. It doesn't take much to swell his head.

[Hardmill]

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we tend to remain "Old School". I think most shops do. most all our operators are veteran manual machines guys. its hard to throw new ideas at them without some griping about it. most like a program they can look at and understand when doing 2d work. when I give them a tricod toolpath they usually come back with a WTF is that?

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Got that right cartoon boy

I fight this very fight everyday. Alot of these guys

have been here 20+ yrs and flat out refuse to change.

I been fortunate to be exposed to some of the latest

and greatest tooling in the industry, and in this

shop all I get is grief for it.

My shopping cart should be up and operational

soon and when you all start buying tools from me

I can stay home full time.

I know its a shameless plug, but its the only one I gots

www.hardmilling101.com

 

 

PEACE

[Hardmill]

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+10 Mayday...

+100 Mayday....

+1000 Mayday...

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Careful Psycho. It doesn't take much to swell his head.

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Too late stork, hes gone already

 

PEACE

[mayday]

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I know its a shameless plug, but its the only one I gots

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Dont fret regrind, there's money to be made selling plugs to. somtines our lathe dept. is booked solid making things that fill holes

[Harryman]

That tool path ain't just blinky lights. There is very solid merit there. The local guy says it's patented. I guess that means that CNC should get working on a way to be 25% better.

[crazy^millman]

Funny seem Mastercam has had this with their partner Cimco it is called HSM and does all of what is talked about in that topic but does it with roughing pcoekt and other toolpaths not limited to 2d work like their's is.

[Müřlıń®]

OK, I will add my 02 since I am old school.....

 

 

Did you know it takes 20 fossil fuel calories to produce ONE food calorie these days?

 

The same is true in terms of speed in manufacturing.

 

Today, your machine-tool has to travel 10 times as far, and the tool has to spin 3 to 4 times faster to achieve this.

 

As long as you are making enough profit to buy a new machine tool every few years, this strategy of going "balls to the walls" is definatly the way to go. Aero-space and military are fat with tax dollars and can afford all of the waste of the "new school" approach...

 

 

On the flip side, us , "old school" guys, would buy a good machine-tool and used it for 30 years

 

Take a new HAAS, throw on 1500 lbs of workpiece, run it as fast as it will go and you will be buying a new one about..... the time you make your last payment.....

[jeff]

Murlin makes a good point,

but the other side of that is, the faster you get the work out the door,the more work you can do and thus the more $ you make.

[DC Gorn]

Machine plus skilled person = $65/hour

 

20% increase in speed = $13/hour

 

2 shifts run @ 75% eff. $780 per week

 

$780 x 4 weeks = $3120 per month

 

$3120 per month will pay for a new haas every four years.

Everything over 20% is gravy

 

Just my 2 cents

[lou]

+1 Jeff!! Speed comes with a cost. Customers want there parts faster now a days and are willing to pay for speed.

[Greg Williams]

Art,

 

I recently did some testing at AUSTech with this product.

 

You have to give credit where it is due.