Why not ???????????????????

[mold100]

Back in the day before I discovered the great world of cam I had to program a fadal manually and sometimes I would have standing geo in the bottom of a pocket, so the control as crappy as i think the legacy fadal control is had a learn function, I could mill it out with the hand wheel and it would save the moves and convert the moves to g-code and add it to the program, kinda like freehand machinining. I think it would be very useful if when you where in that mode it shows your tool as specified dia and where you drag it on the screen the path stays. That sounds fun.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Alex,

 

I like that, it should be implemented.

 

quote:

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now you have a toolpath that is not associated to anything which can cause a LOT of problems

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It only causes problem because of the way MC deals

with cutter paths in the ops manager.

(more headache than is necessary)

 

Like the way a path becomes dirty, etc.

A path is a path and should be whether its

associative to geometry or dirty. IMO

 

Rick

[Mark H]

I think this is an interesting toolpath. Also I would think that it could be made associative, MC could save the movements of the mouse as lines, arcs, points, splines...

[Zero]

i wouldnt mind having the ability to create freehand toolpaths either

[Roger Peterson]

Rickster, I completely disagree with you on that. So you don't want any connection between the geometry and the toolpath? Might as well use version 6. The way mastercam deals with paths eliminates SOOO many headaches.

 

 

There is certainly a use for this, it is a quick and handy function. But, if it's not tied to geometry I would not use it. Maybe a peice of "reference geometry" that could control the depth/location/rotation of the toolpath?

 

 

JM2C

[Dan_AKA_ROY]

quote:

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I think this is an interesting toolpath. Also I would think that it could be made associative, MC could save the movements of the mouse as lines, arcs, points, splines...

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Maybe MC can blank the created freehand geo? So you don't see the ref geo, but its there nonetheless so MC has something to associate to.

 

Interesting thread!

[cncfrank]

I think it's a great idea ! What I do now is, if I'm using a 4.000 face mill I create a 4.000 arc, and click it around the part where I want it to go, then create lined from center to center of the arcs. To be able to freehand a path would save a lot of time.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Roger

 

I thought the use would be for 'quick roughing'

(one off peice work)next time if needed

 

If I was using it for production or precision

machining, then I definitely use geometry or would

need it to be made associative.

[Takashi Sato from Ai Solutions.]

I just made this chook.

http://ai-sols.sytes.net/download/img/freehand.jpg

http://ai-sols.sytes.net/download/Ai_Freehand.zip

you have to use Cplane=TOP and OpenGL graphics..

 

edit:

Input the Tool dia and select point to move to, and hit escape to create lines..

 

[ 06-13-2007, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: Takashi Sato from Ai Solutions. ]

[Piglet Trespassers William]

Thank you very much ,Mr Takashi Sato from Ai Solutions.

 

It is a pity ,though ,that I can use only top cplane ????

Being 4-5 axes programmer it makes this c-hook almoust useless

 

With great respect and best regards ,

Piglet Trespassers William

[Takashi Sato from Ai Solutions.]

woot I noticed MouseMchVX_X2_MR1 does the same thing..

http://www.camaix.net/c-hook_downloads_v10.html

 

 

anyway I have updated it..

http://ai-sols.sytes.net/download/Ai_Freehand.zip

 

Press backspace key to undo..

Press Enter/Escape to end it.

[Piglet Trespassers William]

Thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Works great

PS I like your Backspace idea

[LansB]

Takashi that is very nice!

Thanks!

[Thee Rickster ™]

Takashi,

 

great work, thanks

[Goldorak]

[Pete Rimkus from CNC Software Inc.]

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"...Come on ,Pete ,don`t tell me it is too hard..."

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No, but sometimes it is easier to let someone else do it.

 

Good job Takashi Sato!

 

[ 06-14-2007, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: Pete Rimkus from CNC Software, Inc. ]

[Pete Rimkus from CNC Software Inc.]

Wait a minute....

 

What about Toolpath/Point?

 

It's about as "freehand" as you can get!

[Roger Peterson]

Pete, make it so you can select your tool first, then have it shade where the selected tool will remove material and you've got it nailed. And, it's associative to the created points!

 

 

JM2C

[Eeyore-nonhuman forum member]

What about Toolpath/Point?

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lIKE ROGER SAID +1000

Toolpath /point worth not much ,JMHO .

iT IS NOT VISUALLY INFORMATIVE ENOUGH .

In my whole MC programmer career I used it never

I used every other toolpath at least once LOL

[Eeyore-nonhuman forum member]

Pete .

Before getting big things done think about the little things people will use every day .

Trust me ,they will

[Eeyore-nonhuman forum member]

It is up to you ,Pete .

I can point to many toolpathes you can easily get your job done without them like face toolpath ,slot toolpath or circle mill toolpath .

Yet you made them and people use them .

Logically it looks like free-hand toolpath is what many people will like to use too .

And it is not a big deal .

Much less options than in face toolpath

[Thad]

Takashi, you are a genius!

 

Well done, my friend!

 

Thad

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

I know I said I would rather just create geometry, but after trying Takashi's C-Hook I think I'm hooked. That could be really useful.

[Dan_AKA_ROY]

So after you move the mouse around to create your lines, then you program a 2D Contour toolpath on that geo?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Dan,

 

Yes,

 

At least that is how I use it.