Looking for some professional post writer

[PcRobotic]

Hello everyone,

   I'm looking for someone who can write post for my work needs.  I have a MPMASTER converted from X8 to X9 version 4AXIS post processor.  I just got a job at a place where machines only hold 125KB whereas I love to use 2D High Speed Toolpaths of which high memory consumtion.

 

   I know that 3Axis post spits out 2D High Speed Toolpaths codes shorter than 4axis MPMaster.  

 

   I'm looking for someone who is responsible for their work such as doing a COMPLETE WORK.  I will pay through PAYPAL account.  

 

   I tried to ask the CNC SOFTWARE to do it for me and they ENCRYPTED THE CODES, I do not want that since I'm paying for the service.

 

  Please help, I need some modification for my post.  I know this forum has many talented guys who can achieve my post needs.

 

   Below here is my request of post that I would like to get it done:

 

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O0258(Cross Base- Op1.NC Post REV.55)

(Source= CROSS BASE.MCX-9)

(Part name= Cross Base)

(Unproven Source File)

(Posted on AUG.22.2015 AT 8*05AM)

(Vertical 4Axis Universial Post)

(*)

(Material type= 7075 - T6)

(Stock size= X.52 Y2.12 Z2.12)

(*)

(Total tools for Op1 are: 6 tools)

(*)

(TOOLS LIST)

(T7=.7500, 3/4 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.50LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.275, Cut# 2,3,4) =============================> I need this to be added

(==================)

(T9=.1875, 3/16 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, .313LOC, .38LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.275, Cut# 5,8,9) =============================> I need this to be added

(==================)

(T11=.2500, 1/4 SPOTTER, HSS, 90DEG,)

(1Flts, .125LOC, .50LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.065, Cut# 6)

(==================)

(T12=.1160, #32 STUB DRILL, HSS, 118DEG,)

(2Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.25LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.3098, Cut# 7) =============================> I need this to be added

(==================)

(T10=.0781, 5/64 EM, CB,)

(2Flts, .250LOC, .50LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.260, Cut# 10, 11)

(==================)

(T13=.3750, 1/4 CHMF, CB, 45DEG,)

(2Flts, .188LOC, 1.00LOH)

(Max Z Depth= Z-.03, Cut# 12, 13, 14) =============================> I need this to be added

(==================)

(*)

(Work Offset Lists)

(G54 B90.)

(X0= Right edge of stock)

(Y0= Rear edge of stock)

(Z0= Top of surface Z-.010 miminal clean up)

(*)

N7(.7500, 3/4 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T7 M6(Rough on surface, CUT#2)

G0 G90 G54(Z STK= .005)

(ADOC: .1250)

X-2.606 Y-2.5738 S7500 M3

G43 H7 Z1. T9 M8(DOC= Z.005)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z.1875

G1 Z.005 F100.

(Cutting.........)

X-1.0835 Y-.7682

X-1.0497 Y-.789

X-1.0181 Y-.813

G2 X-.9971 Y-1.1845 R.2872

X-1.1295 Y-1.3599 R2.3803

G0 Z1.

M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N702(.7500, 3/4 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T7 M6(Finish surface, CUT#3)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-2.925 Y-.3376 S7500 M3

G43 H7 Z1. T9 M8(DOC= Z0.)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z.125

G1 Z0. F50.

X.45

Y-.8459

X-2.85

Y-1.3541

X.45

Y-1.8624

X-2.925

G0 Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N703(.7500, 3/4 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T7 M6(Rough and finsh profile, CUT#4)

(1x .005 Multi-Rough)

(1x .005 Multi-Finish)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-2.7311 Y-1.6257 S7500 M3

G43 H7 Z1. T9 M8(DOC= Z-.275)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G1 Z-.275 F50.

X-2.4686 Y-1.171

(Cutting.........)

X-2.7261 Y-.4663

G0 Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N9(.1875, 3/16 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, .313LOC, .38LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T9 M6(2D High Speed ToolPath - Area Mill, CUT#5)

G0 G90 G54(XY STK= .005)

(ADOC: .1250)

X-.7085 Y-.7585 S7500 M3

G43 H9 Z1. T11 M8(DOC= Z-.26)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z.0625

G1 Z-.0004 F50.

X-.8438 Z-.0051

X-.8677 Y-.7558 Z-.0059

(Cutting.........)

X-1.0072 Y-.3573

X-1.1097

Y-.5438

G2 X-1.2025 Y-.6915 R.163

G0 Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N11(.2500, 1/4 SPOTTER, HSS, 90DEG,)

(1Flts, .125LOC, .50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T11 M6(Spot 2x .1250 dowel pin holes, CUT#6)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.4727 Y-1.0835 S2292 M3

G43 H11 Z.25 T12 M8(DOC= Z-.065)  =============================> Get value from here 

(TDOC: -.065)

G90

G98 G81 Z-.065 R0. F5.73

X-.6443

G80 M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N12(.1160, #32 STUB DRILL, HSS, 118DEG,)

(2Flts, 1.000LOC, 1.25LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T12 M6(Rough drilling 2x .1250 dowel pin holes, CUT#7)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.4727 Y-1.0835 S3293 M3

G43 H12 Z.25 T9 M8(DOC= Z-.3098)  =============================> Get value from here 

(13 Pecks TDOC: -.3098)

G90

G98 G83 Z-.3098 R0. Q.0239 F6.59

X-.6443

G80 M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N9(.1875, 3/16 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, .313LOC, .38LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T9 M6(Rough and finish 2x .252 through holes, CUT#8)

(1x .0015 Multi-Rough)

(1x .005 Multi-Finish)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.7496 Y-1.687 S7500 M3

G43(D9)H9 Z1. T10 M8(DOC= Z-.275)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z.0625

G1 Z0. F5.

G3 X-1.7496 Y-1.687 Z-.0016 I.0036 J.0035 F10.

X-1.7496 Y-1.687 Z-.0033 I.0036 J.0035

X-1.7496 Y-1.687 Z-.0049 I.0036 J.0035

(Cutting.........)

X-.371 Y-1.6835

G0 Z.125

Z1.

M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N9(.1875, 3/16 EM, CB,)

(3Flts, .313LOC, .38LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T9 M6(Rough and finish 2x .370 'cbores, CUT#9)

G0 G90 G54(XY STK= .005)

(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.7725 Y-1.6235 S7500 M3

G43 H9 Z1. T10 M8(DOC= Z-.1)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G3 X-1.7725 Y-1.6235 Z-.0216 I.0265 J-.06 F10.

X-1.7725 Y-1.6235 Z-.0432 I.0265 J-.06

(Cutting.........)

G1 X-.371

Y-1.6835

G0 Z.125

Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N10(.0781, 5/64 EM, CB,)

(2Flts, .250LOC, .50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T10 M6(Finish cross ID section, CUT#10)

(.25 Per Rough Depth Cut)

(1X .05 Finish Depth Cut)

(1x .005 Multi-Rough)

(1x .005 Multi-Finish)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.0585 Y-.7585 S7500 M3

G43(D10)H10 Z1. T13 M8(DOC= Z-.26)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G1 Z-.21 F20.

G41 D10 X-1.1628 Y-.5413

(Cutting.........)

X-1.1727 Y-.5732

X-1.1721 Y-.5757

G40 X-1.0585 Y-.7585

G0 Z1.

M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N1002(.0781, 5/64 EM, CB,)

(2Flts, .250LOC, .50LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T10 M6(Rough and finish 2x .1250 dowel pin holes, CUT#11)

G0 G90 G54(Z STK= -.01)

(XY STK= .0005)

(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.463 Y-1.0803 S7500 M3

G43(D10)H10 Z1. T13 M8(DOC= Z-.26)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z.0625

G1 Z0. F5.

G41 D10 X-1.4727 Y-1.0835

G3 X-1.4533 Y-1.0772 R.0102

X-1.4533 Y-1.0772 Z-.05 I-.0194 J-.0063

(Cutting.........)

G40 X-.6443 Y-1.0835

G0 Z.125

Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N13(.3750, 1/4 CHMF, CB, 45DEG,)

(2Flts, .188LOC, 1.00LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T13 M6(Deburr on profile, CUT#12)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-2.2298 Y-2.3421 S7000 M3

G43 H13 Z1. T7 M8(DOC= Z-.03)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G1 Z-.03 F50.

(Cutting.........)

X-2.2298 Y-1.7499

G0 Z1.

M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N132(.3750, 1/4 CHMF, CB, 45DEG,)

(2Flts, .188LOC, 1.00LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T13 M6(Deburr cross ID, CUT#13)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.1341 Y-.8804 S7000 M3

G43 H13 Z1. T7 M8(DOC= Z-.03)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G1 Z-.03 F25.

(Cutting.........)

X-1.1341 Y-1.0866

G0 Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

(*)

N133(.3750, 1/4 CHMF, CB, 45DEG,)

(2Flts, .188LOC, 1.00LOH)

G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90

G91 G28 Z0.

T13 M6(Deburr 2x c'bores, CUT#14)

G0 G90 G54(ADOC: .1250)

X-1.6354 Y-1.7741 S7000 M3

G43 H13 Z1. T7 M8(DOC= Z-.03)  =============================> Get value from here 

G90 Z0.

G1 Z-.03 F10.

(Cutting.........)

X-.2758 Y-1.5768

G0 Z1. M9

G91 G28 Z0. M5

G28 Y0.

G0 G90 G54 X0.

M1

T7 M6

M30

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[Greg Williams]

Most post writers encrypt there code, I know I do. At the very least I lock the post to SIM numbers. This does open an interesting conversation though, if you pay for a post, what code should you get the option of seeing? and do you really need to see the source code? after all if the post output is correct Gcode, then do you need to see the source code?

 

On the other side what protections is the post writer allowed to implement? After all the customer is buying a post that outputs the code he wants, in the order that he wants it. not necessarily the buying the source code.

[Colin Gilchrist]

How about you finish paying me for the work I've done for you, before you start looking for a new post writer? Not only have I worked for you at a significant discount, but I haven't encrypted any of the work we've done together. Why? Because I thought we had an understanding that I was training you.

[crazy^millman]

How about you finish paying me for the work I've done for you, before you start looking for a new post writer? Not only have I worked for you at a significant discount, but I haven't encrypted any of the work we've done together. Why? Because I thought we had an understanding that I was training you.

Colin sorry to hear about this.

 

PCRobitic sorry, but you think paying for a service and sharing the service are the same thing they are not. I can put you in touch with several people, but we pay for this service and all of the work is encrypted. Go talk to ICAM or Post Haste and see how much they do and how much they share. Can like it or not, but until you decide to decaite the time to learn it and do it without anyone else's help you either pay for it or deal with what you got.

 

Hopefully the situation gets sorted out and wish you the best.

[djstedman]

In addition to what everyone else has already said.. just figured I would mention that with only 125Kb of memory using 2D highspeed paths is going to be very difficult without some serious filtering which is more on the programming end of things than the post.. depending on the size and configuration of the parts you will be lucky to get one or two operations in highspeed 2d without running out of storage.. look into DNC or learn to start using the equipment you have in the oldschool manner it needs to be used to produce the results you need.

[gcode]

we have a bunch of older machines with limited program capacity

In many cases we have been able to upgrade the memory to provide more storage capacity.

It's not cheap, probably a little more than a custom post, but a much better solution

than trying to filter a 500k toolpath down to 100k

[PcRobotic]

How about you finish paying me for the work I've done for you, before you start looking for a new post writer? Not only have I worked for you at a significant discount, but I haven't encrypted any of the work we've done together. Why? Because I thought we had an understanding that I was training you.

Hi Colin,

   I'm apologize for my neglect.  Well, I couldn't get in touch with you for nearly a month.  And... at the begging, our agreement was paying you through payments.  I lost my job last 3 weeks ago and I texted you that I would pay you when my first pay check on the September the 5th.

 

   

Best regards,

   SLuong

[PcRobotic]

Most post writers encrypt there code, I know I do. At the very least I lock the post to SIM numbers. This does open an interesting conversation though, if you pay for a post, what code should you get the option of seeing? and do you really need to see the source code? after all if the post output is correct Gcode, then do you need to see the source code?

 

On the other side what protections is the post writer allowed to implement? After all the customer is buying a post that outputs the code he wants, in the order that he wants it. not necessarily the buying the source code.

Hi Greg,

   Thanks for your responding, I do need help with post services and I understand what others aren't do what this FORUM does.  There things behind the scene that I can't expose to the forum.  It's just matter that I don't tend to blame others because it's just makes me look unprofessional.

 

   I do appreciate what this forum gave me lots of knowledge about post editing. I'm trying to learn from Colin so I can write my own who I got trained for the last 6 months.  Obviously, he's not happy about I'm looking for someone who can help me with post editing but I think life is move on and I can't just stop at one station.

 

 

Thanks,

   S.Luong

[PcRobotic]

In addition to what everyone else has already said.. just figured I would mention that with only 125Kb of memory using 2D highspeed paths is going to be very difficult without some serious filtering which is more on the programming end of things than the post.. depending on the size and configuration of the parts you will be lucky to get one or two operations in highspeed 2d without running out of storage.. look into DNC or learn to start using the equipment you have in the oldschool manner it needs to be used to produce the results you need.

Thanks DJ,

    I sat 8 hours on last Saturday and I finally figured out why 4-Axis post has more G-CODES than the 3-Axis although they are same toolpath.  The problem is the MACHINE CONTROL DEFINITION.  At the end of DEFAULT lines, it got STUCK and I deleted it.  It worked great. 

 

   You are right, FILTERING is something that works good with "R" and, "I J K" value instead tons of "X Y" values.

 

Thanks for your suggestion, DJ.

[PcRobotic]

Colin sorry to hear about this.

 

PCRobitic sorry, but you think paying for a service and sharing the service are the same thing they are not. I can put you in touch with several people, but we pay for this service and all of the work is encrypted. Go talk to ICAM or Post Haste and see how much they do and how much they share. Can like it or not, but until you decide to decaite the time to learn it and do it without anyone else's help you either pay for it or deal with what you got.

 

Hopefully the situation gets sorted out and wish you the best.

Hi 5th Axis,

   I really don't know what to say but really, I appreciated what you expressed your opinions.  As you see that I was struggling with EDITING POST and eager to learn because I wan't to write my own post.

 

   This situation isn't what people see I'm ditching Colin but it is all about I need post editing training service.  

 

    I'm not rich like others and I'm poor like some of these people in this forum so seek for post editing knowledge.  

 

   If you were me, I think you would need help and eager to learn like the way I am now.  I don't tend to blame but my goal is to get help and if you think I'm worth to trust then I'm appreciate for that....  And if I'm not then I guess I have to learn how to make people to trust me.

 

 

 

PS:  thank you

 

 

Best regards,

   S.Luong 

[MIL-TFP-41]

Just curious....do your operators really read all the notes and comments that you have in your code? Or is it more of a challenge to see if you can get it to work?

If memory is really at a premium (and we have several older machines so I can relate) seems like the less comments you have the better. A setup sheet could do all you are trying to do.

[PcRobotic]

Hi MIL-TFP-41,

   Honestly, some programmers aren't put any note at all.  Most of programmers write programs without writing any comment on the operation comments.  Setup men would be going back and forth for all day long for better communication.

 

   Therefore, I developed the AUTOMATIC NOTE SYSTEM with the help of COLIN and so this system is working out pretty good with them.  For example, if the rough operation leave on wall is .005 and leave on floor is .005 then the G-CODES would appear like this:

 

(XY STK: .005)

(z STK: .005)

 

Those notes, the programmer does not need to write ANYTHING in the comment at all, the post would know and posts out.

 

Another example is the TOOLS LIST:  You don't need to type a lot of manual TOOL DESCRIPTION, all you need to do is the input the RIGHT DATE for OVER ALL LENGTH, FLUTE LENGTH, FLUTE #... etc... then the post will spit like this:

 

(T1 .5000, 1/4 CEM 1.000LOC 3FLT 1.25LOH)

 

Notice that I only input TOOL DIA., FLUTE#, TOOL MATERIAL (CARBIDE, HSS, CERAMIC... etc)

[The Cathedral]

His point was all those NOTES take up extra MEMORY that is limited in your MACHINE.

[MIL-TFP-41]

Once again, a setup sheet would be able to capture all of these things you have listed, Plus call out your holder...and would be a million times easier for the operator to follow. Especially on older machines, where you can see maybe 10 of code at once......With all the comments you are spitting out, one would have to single block thru the thing to catch them all. just my opinion...but to each their own.

[PcRobotic]

His point was all those NOTES take up extra MEMORY that is limited in your MACHINE.

Hi Cathedral, 

   I truly understand what his point is and my point is notes won't take much space comparing 2D high speed X,Y,Z data spits out.  They are the most memory taker, like 10 times more than what the notes can be compete with.

 

 

Thanks for your suggestion,

   SLuong

[PcRobotic]

This is what I meant,

 

3axis post codes: (has more ARCs)

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O0258(Cross Base- Op1.NC)

(C:\USERS\PCROBOTIC\GOOGLE DRIVE\JOBS\STRIKER\CROSS BASE.MCX-9)
(Material Type 7075 - T6)
(Posted On AUG. 21 2015 At 21:10)
(*)
(T9 |.1875 , 3/16 EM | H9)
(*)
N9(2D HIGH SPEED TOOLPATH - AREA MILL)
G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90
G91 G28 Z0.
M8
T9 M6(.1875 , 3/16 EM)
G0 G90 X-1.4085 Y-.7479 S7500 M3
G43 H9 Z1.
Z.0625
G1 Z-.0003 F50.
X-1.4191 Y-.7585 Z-.0004
G3 X-1.4112 Y-.7688 I.0106 J0.
G1 X-1.4098 Y-.7691 Z-.0005
X-1.4085
G2 X-1.3081 Y-.7668 Z-.004 I.0671 J-.7387
X-1.2194 Y-.7762 Z-.0071 I-.0333 J-.741
G1 X-1.2059 Y-.7807 Z-.0075
G2 X-1.1358 Y-.8219 Z-.0103 I-.0787 J-.2141
X-1.1206 Y-.8387 Z-.0111 I-.1738 J-.1732
X-1.0762 Y-.9194 Z-.0143 I-.189 J-.1564
G1 X-1.0744 Y-.9309 Z-.0147
G2 X-1.0691 Y-1.1085 Z-.0182 I-.7334 J-.1105
G3 X-1.0479 I.0106 J0.
G2 X-1.0508 Y-1.0313 I.7387 J.0671
X-1.0423 Y-.9285 Z-.0218 I.7416 J-.0101
G1 X-1.0408 Y-.9194 Z-.0221
G2 X-.9949 Y-.8369 Z-.0253 I.2334 J-.0757
X-.9812 Y-.8219 Z-.026 I.1875 J-.1582
X-.909 Y-.7799 Z-.0289 I.1488 J-.1729
G1 X-.8976 Y-.7762 Z-.0293
G2 X-.8067 Y-.7668 Z-.0324 I.122 J-.7316
X-.7085 Y-.7691 Z-.0358 I.0311 J-.741
G1 X-.7068 Y-.769
X-.6979 Y-.7585 Z-.036
G3 X-.7052 Y-.7484 I-.0106 J0.
G1 X-.7068 Y-.748
X-.8431 Y-.7479 Z-.0407
G2 X-.9105 Y-.7338 Z-.0431 I.0137 J.2345
X-.9971 Y-.6779 Z-.0467 I.0811 J.2204
G1 X-.9989 Y-.676
G2 X-1.0084 Y-.6656 Z-.0472 I.1695 J.1626
X-1.0401 Y-.5842 Z-.0502 I.2858 J.1585
X-1.0479 Y-.4758 Z-.0538 I.3175 J.0771
G3 X-1.0691 Y-.4085 I-.5399 J-.1337
G2 X-1.0662 Y-.4844 I-.7387 J-.0671
X-1.0745 Y-.5872 Z-.0573 I-.7416 J.0088
G1 X-1.0762 Y-.5976 Z-.0577
G2 X-1.1212 Y-.6791 Z-.0609 I-.2334 J.0757
X-1.1358 Y-.6951 Z-.0616 I-.1884 J.1572
X-1.2068 Y-.7366 Z-.0644 I-.1488 J.1729
X-1.2194 Y-.7408 Z-.0649 I-.0778 J.2144
X-1.309 Y-.7502 Z-.068 I-.122 J.7316
X-1.4085 Y-.7479 Z-.0714 I-.0324 J.741
G1 X-1.4102 Y-.748
X-1.4191 Y-.7585 Z-.0715
G3 X-1.4104 Y-.769 I.0106 J0.
G1 X-1.4095 Y-.7691 Z-.0716
X-1.4085
G2 X-1.3073 Y-.7669 Z-.0751 I.0671 J-.7387
X-1.2194 Y-.7762 Z-.0781 I-.0341 J-.7409
X-1.2052 Y-.781 Z-.0787 I-.0652 J-.2186
X-1.1358 Y-.8219 Z-.0814 I-.0794 J-.2138
X-1.1201 Y-.8392 Z-.0822 I-.1738 J-.1732
X-1.0762 Y-.9194 Z-.0854 I-.1895 J-.1559
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O0258(Cross Base- Op1.NC Post REV.45)
(Source= CROSS BASE.MCX-9)
(Part name= Cross Base)
(Unproven Source File)
(Posted on AUG.21.2015 AT 21*31PM)
(Vertical 4Axis Universial Post)
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[crazy^millman]

How is the control definition setup and how is the arc filtering setup in the post? Are you using the same control definition for both posts, but just changing it through the machine definition to see how the post is behaving? Best way to test a post is use the same machine and control definition. Yes you would have to have at least a 4 axis Machine and Control definition. That helps to rule out the machine and control definition and then focus on the post. Like mentioned in the other thread have you used the debugger to get the exact place in the post where the output is coming from? The post debugger allows you that level of detail to figure things out.

[Colin Gilchrist]

Steven,

 

The input data, which is the NCI file, is the same for both of your tests. As you have discovered through trial and error, it is the Control Definition Arc Settings, in combination with the Control Definition Tolerance Settings, that effect how MP processes Arc and HELIX motion. That is something very important to understand, because the Post Blocks that output the G2/G3 motion are identical.

 

The Control Definition Arc Settings tell the Tool Path itself, how to present the Arcs. Are they broken at the Quadrant, or at the Midpoint, or are you allowing Full Circle output? That determines if the toolpath writes one, two, or four lines to the NCI file. Just changing the setting and posting out the NCI doesn't show the change, unless you regenerate the toolpath with the new Arc settings before posting.

 

In addition, the other thing that changes the output is if you allow Helix motion or not. If the Helix checkboxes are not turned on, then MP will linearize the Arc. That is something you need to understand: It isn't just the post processor text file that changes the output, it is the MP.DLL Post Engine, which runs in the background, and uses the PST file to build an instruction list. The Control Definition, and Machine Definition, pass settings to Mastercam and to MP.DLL.

 

This is all stuff we can go over on Saturday when we meet for more training.

 

To get the shortest code possible for Toolpath Generation and Arc Output:

 

1. CD Arc Settings: 'Allow Full Arc Output' checked on, 'Do not break arcs' set in the drop-down, and Allow Helix turned on. (You can turn on "only in XY plane", since I've never seen a HST toolpath make a G18/G19 helix motion. (The paths will generate G18/G19 arcs, if you have the Filter settings turned on.)
2. Every Tool Path in Mastercam that deals with 2D Splines, or 3D surfaces/faces, is created as Point to Point motion. There is a Filter option on every Toolpath. Enable this filter to get Arcs output. The Tolerance Values you use have a lot to do with how compact the NC code is. Use 10-20% of your Stock to Leave value as a Total Tolerance value. That means if you are leaving .03 of material on the wall during Rouging, use .003-.006 for your Total Tolerance. I recommend a 50%-50% split between Cut Tolerance (How accurate is the cut) and Filter Tolerance (How Arc are fit to the resulting point-to-point toolpath).

There is no difference between the 3 Axis and 4 Axis Post Processors, when outputting Arc motion. The only exception, is that the 4X Post has code to "linearize" and "break" arcs, when doing Axis Substitution, or Polar Coordinate output. This breaks the arc into "rotary" motion, and is necessary for the 4 Axis output. (It has nothing to do with HST paths).

 

There is another option to get your HST paths to fit in your limited machine memory. You can use the Section NCI toolpath to break up the path into multiple, separate paths, that include entry/exit motion, and Program Header and Footer. This allows you to take a single toolpath that won't fit in the control, and break it into smaller programs that will. Again, it is something we can talk about on Saturday.

[Guest]

If I do a post, I'll almost always encrypt it to a sim or group of SIMS. I just like giving the bird to software pirates and that's an easy way to do it. :

 

I never encrypt anything useful, Usually just a comment that doesn;t do anything.

[Mick]

If I do a post, I'll almost always encrypt it to a sim or group of SIMS. I just like giving the bird to software pirates and that's an easy way to do it. :

 

I never encrypt anything useful, Usually just a comment that doesn;t do anything.

 

I totally agree. The posts I have done, I have encrypted to the SIM numbers, and I encrypt a line of text that says something like:

 

"This post has been customised for Customer <insert customer name here>, and SIM #<insert SIM number here>"

 

That way, if it is ever un-encrypted, it can be traced.

[Newbeeee™]

As an aside but talking big progs into small memory, these guys have come up on practical machinist a few times as having a good product.

I've never used them but the guys that have rate them highly.

http://calmotion.com/products-page/usbmemorycontrollers

[crazy^millman]

As an aside but talking big progs into small memory, these guys have come up on practical machinist a few times as having a good product.

I've never used them but the guys that have rate them highly.

http://calmotion.com/products-page/usbmemorycontrollers

They make a great product and I have personally seen it installed in several shops with great success.

[civiceg]

http://www.highlanddnc.com/

 

Have used it on a Yasnac MX2 and Fanuc Pro3. Can't beat the price

[jlw™]

I've seen the Mazak flavor.  Worked like a charm.  However, as a warning even if you can figure out how to get the dynamic code into it, many older controls can't process it fast enough and you get a very herky jerky run.  I've seen one that would run it fine at 70-80ipm but get to the 140-150ipm and it was like a paint shaker.  So if you get a real broken motion try turning the pot down first.

[jlw™]

If I do a post, I'll almost always encrypt it to a sim or group of SIMS. I just like giving the bird to software pirates and that's an easy way to do it. :

 

I never encrypt anything useful, Usually just a comment that doesn;t do anything.

Hahahahaha!  That is freaking hilarious!

 

 

 

 

Now you got me wondering...