So what's the discussion or prioritization going on there? Port the old stuff over, or drop em' altogether? Or update their interface to tree style? Curious. IMHO, leave them non-tree style. Hands down their are fewer clicks in old school interface than new school tree style. There are only a few old school roughing paths that are valuable. Pocket, contour, and very seldom parallel. Sometimes (about 8% of the time) 3d hst just doesn't work well. Sure if you are doing a mold or entire part hst is the way to go. But say you are doing a production 2d part where you just need to target a certain small region for surface machining. Sometimes an old school path will be more controllable, fine-tunable, and efficient. Now for surface finish, old school can be frequently better.

I'll happily spend a few minutes waiting for a regen to get a toolpath that will cut WAY faster and save $$$ on tooling. Machines rates are by the hr, much more expensive that pc time. As you have it my pc froze for a few minutes. I changed your filter to 2:1 and 5% rounding rad it it went a little faster. About 3 min. Tried it in X7 exactly as you have it, and not only does it multi-thread so you can keep working, but also generates in about 1 min. Something to look forward too, hang in there.

What Bob says up there. (Must be a pacific northwest trick) For setting tools, I much prefer .500 gauge pins. There is only one tangent point touching the table and tool. The lightest of pressure and the pin will either roll under or no. You can set to .0001 with no problem, big or small tools. Eliminates the flat surface of a 123 block and the whetted friction, or the block riding up on a nic on the table or chip. But then again how some Haas spindles grow, might as well use a pine 2 x 4 for settting tools

Actually the last Sager I bought was their top model. It was big and very heavy. I used it for a month and decided I wanted more portability. I gave them call, and no problems at all they swapped it out for me. My new rig is perfect size and portability, and crazy power. Windows index 7.5.

I'll never buy anything other than Sager laptops. Power, value, fantastic customer support.

Well from when this discussion started 10 years ago till now, there has been a HUGE progression in toolpath/style availability. all the dynamic stuff basically. With the shallow stepovers your radial chip thinning factor throws any usual IPR calculator out the window. Null and void. Also, let's say you are using IPR, and decide to bump up your feedrate. Going from .010 to .011 is a 10% increase. What if you wanted to go up let's say 5% in feed? You'd have to enter IPR of .0105 Does your mill have four decimal place resolution for feedrate? I'm nowhere near a machine now to try it.

wow. Methods will certainly be taking a hit, as will Selway. Thx for the info. I'm curious and will ask around.

What kind of parts? At my old shop we bought a YCI -NSV series, we took a leap on a recommendation from a great tech I know, and it turned out a very robust machine. Nice wide casting. Box ways and twin ball screws the size of my arm (y-axis). Big plus spindle with chiller. Somewhere over 2000ipm rapids. And good ole' 21i variant control, with fanuc motors on everything (the good ones, not the cheapo's). They saved money on it being a tiwanees machine, the toolchanger needed some help, and some weird stuff (like the airgun, for instance) were harbor-freight specials. Support and parts were very good out of California (mostly toolchanger parts). How is the dealer if you do need support? I know that's not the model your looking at (looks like their product offering is pretty large now). Can you travel to see one anywhere? I'd not even consider the Haas given your two other options. I know nothing of the Mazak, so can't help you there. Contact Chris M here, and mention Mazak. Guaranteed an opinion. I believe he is in your neck of the woods, so possible same dealer.

It's not alot of pressure at all. You can only feel it if you put your hands around the underside of the way covers. Yeah the coolant may last longer, but not the dam machine it's in! Plus spindle still uses oil.

Update: So yes their new machine was a grease system. Seized the Z axis in about 1 month. That was with a decent dust extraction system. Since then they built a pretty clever system to pressurize basically the entire machine casting cavities. Air flows out of all the way covers, and has proved an effective solution.

Heck for that matter the Okuma/hardinge GX series of mills are also close to Haas pricing, and run circles around them. I've been cutting 1018 at 600 ipm on one. FYI, for all the naysayers Bob is a stand-up guy and does some really nice work, and sure his test could have been this, that or the other thing different (torque curve). But thanks for sharing and cool to watch.

Or download a camtasia product, like jing

I vaguely know what you're after and will throw something out there. The vertical uv lines are "twisting" or not logically matching top to bottom edge?? Drive it by upper and lower wire, and fix it all so it makes "sense". THEN your autosync rail should work. (or by node) Your just going to use the surface to create the new good wire. Create curve one edge for the top and bottom rails. Use the wall surface to create -curves - dynamic and/or create -curves- constant parameter. Those will create the vertical lines (the axis of the tool) Break your upper and lowers into an equal number of entities, and create fresh vertical lines using constant parameter curve. Drive the swarf by all that nice new geo. i think :/

No idea why or where it came from. That outfit is a machine tool dealer and I'm on the mailing list. 20k spindle with 2000ipm feedrates caught my eye. (and all the makino chit-chat around here)

Hey Bob, (and everyone else for that matter) Do you get this local guys emails? This big machine has some impressive numbers, and he's had it listed for a while I'll bet someone could steal it.

Try Scientific Cutting Tool?

You need to use a toolpath that will recognize the casting shape. The regular toolpaths assume prismatic blocks, and thus cut lots of air if you have something other than that. Save your casting stock as an .stl file. Use a restmilling toolpath and select the "cad" file (stl) along with your drive geometry. Lots of the high speed toolpaths have rest passes options too. hth

The nvidia desktop manager has always allowed me to fine tune thing like this. I was recently using an ati equipped machine and what you are describing was driving me nuts too. Maybe I'm missing something on the ati options, but I'd take a 50$ nvidia card over a 400$ ati for the desktop tools alone.

SUBreports too? Dialog between me and CNC

Now if AR would work from a network location...I've know a few companies that refuse to use it because of that. Everyone please make that a request from cnc. Here is the engine for AR. Check out some of the other cool stuff the company provides. When I get the time I think I'll contact them directly about our no-network support. (I'm to busy complaining about it )

Not in front of my pc till later, but yes it works for 2d stuff...but the 3d stuff now?

Dynamic will never violate the stepover value and rounding radius. Area will. Other than peel (maybe blend too) stick to the toolpaths with "dynamic" in the name.

Last I checked it would NOT display 3d toolpath cut depths. Total pain in the neck because THOSE toolpaths are what you really need tool stickout info.

Nice. What's the feedrate on that? I'll post a few vids on Tuesday. We are going to be doing some test cuts on 63rc dies in the next few weeks. That should be an adventure. Where is mpOkuma master? Doesn't seem to be here Currently using a lack-luster post.

We got it!!!! (WE meaning you all guys ) Turned Hi-cut off and it ran! Then changed my Hi-Cut from this: To this, which was your guys' setting: It was the machining tolerance that fixed it actually.... All this precipitates a whole bunch of other questions...cause I gotta know. The smallest arc on my part was .033". The smallest arc in the toolpath was .073 ( backplotted and saved geometry). The value in my hi-cut machining tolerance was .010 which threw it into single block only mode. What's the math that's happening? Okuma apps guys? When this problem started last week in a futile attempt in the header I was putting in G130. The manual says G130/131 will only be functional if Execution mode is set to OFF. I was set to ON, so G130 was doing nothing. Now to start playing with G131 F, E, & J. Do you guys utilize any of this? Beers on me when anyone is in Oregon.