Ok rekd I would ask a stupid question but choose not too. I then looked at the HAAS post sent with the basic 9.1 Mastercam to gauge my response on. I ran into soemthing crazy on toolchanges when the gcode call forthe 1002 or the 1000 was set the wrong way when doing 5 axis toolchanges wit hthe Thermwood post. Maybe I am way out in left feild in this but if you equal your frist part on the equation to a varible equal too a nulltool change will you not add a extra tool to the buffer given you the difference of adding the extra tool which would be nothing but a value of space is added to the buffer thus giving you the z.00 information of something that does not exist in the mastercam program for operation but added by accident with the value 1000 calling the null toochange varible in your post. Example below I think sorry if I am wrong but wihtout asking the stupid quesiton for you to send me the post this is the best I could come up with having what I got to work with. ptlchg1002 #Call at actual toolchange, end last path here sav_rev = rev #Axis Sub does not update to rev pspindle whatline = four #Required for vector toolpaths if gcode = 1000, [ #Null toolchange ] else, [ #Toolchange and Start of file if gcode = 1002, The part where it says if gcode equals 1000 then it complete the condtion statement of a null toochange which could possible add the z.00 that you are getting I only think this where you have this quote: if gcode = 1002 & op_id = prv_op_id, b1_gcode = 1000 I do know if this is right and dont have the post to play with to figure it out so given my best try. Good Luck Crazy Millman [ 08-19-2003, 12:17 AM: Message edited by: Millman^crazy ]

Dan2ok not to beat a dead horse but you have all the DLL even the 9.15 and yes it is on the update page have to look real hard where the other dll were they have just replaced them and not put them in other place why I dont know has been very confusing for alot of people me also included in that. If you are put the file up on the FTP and let some of the people look at we are without a netwrok this week so I can only see this from home at night think James has got you going in the right direction. I would also look at my arc filter setting and see where they are set at in your demo and the 9.1sp1 I know they defulated on mine to .005 where I like to have it set to .0005 so this did little thing like this for me. Good Luck Crazy Millman

Well sorry the best one "i cam acroos was an old HydroTel Millcaron that was an old oil sump system that had been changed over to a water collant without ever cleaning out the old system. The daily routine was to dumb a gallon of bleach in them everyday oh yeah there was 3 of them. I was chrged wit hthe task to clean the all out to keep the smell from getting so bad. Oh did I forget to metetion that they had it that way for 5 years. I threw up about 5 times and it took me a good three days and 2 55 gallon drums later to get all the sludge out of them. That was fun and it would have gaged a magit. Crazy Millman

I would only add that if you want to get a good finish on it use Carbide and coolant will keep it from sticking to itself and give you better speeds and feed just like anytime you use carbide over highspeed. Crazy Millman

Ok just one thing to add to the whole thing it is only costing 66 million dollars to do this. I understand they guy did some bad thing and think he should get the boot but how able are the candaites going to be heard when they are over 150. I would just like to see the debate with all the people that are in this like Larry Flint, The dancing Guy, The short guy, The Famous guy, and etc............. With the idea that some have of Calforina needs to be looked at I am from Florida and unless you come here and live and see how things are you need to get a clue before saying remarks to the fatc you have no idea about. I would only say there are all types of people in all places of the world and just because this state is going through this doesnt make it any better or worse than the others. I could wonder why a state hit with something so terrible less than 2 years ago was not ready to get the people off an island and have everything in complete dis-array. I am not bashing them just pointing out if we want to start analizing the problems of each state I am sure we can pick all to death with something. Crazy Millman

Just some thing off the wall to think about. Get some bon-do and capture the part in it. I would also look at some TiAln endmills and cut it dry with the feed per tooth recommend by robk. You maty find is good to look at the 3 flute to rough it and the 4 or 5 flute high helix to finish it. I would also get me a mister with no water pickup to keep the cutter clean of chips. You can also look at diamond coating but expect to pay 8-10 times the price right off the bat but expect 8-10 times the life. If you are doing long cuts and dont want to possible be replacing cutter in middle of a part then may be worth the extra money. The link you got from Rob should also take you to that line. Good luck just like anything once you do it you got it. Crazy Millman

Hey just wondering if this was any help and what did you do to make it work? Crazy Millman

Hey Rekd, We found out Friday we are having another Girl. I am sorry to hear about that and wish your family the best. We are due in December the day before my birthday the frist one was due on my wife's birthday. That will leave us at 2 and we are stopping there. I will be the only guy in a house of three women. I guess it pay back for my mom's three boys. I am one of a twin and we had a little brother. My mom use to always say she was one woman in a house of men. Well look foward to the postings. Crazy Millman

Hey Charles I have been thinkign about this and maybe I am crazy but is it possilbe that there needs to be a loop singal sent back to the controller. I am sure the cables are good but maybe it is something as simple as that. We have 2000 here but send it to the 98 computer to actually do the DNC with. I send all of my parameters back to them no problem. Do you have the controllers set in Format 1 or in Format 2. We have all of our set to Format 1. Is the distance longe than 100' to transfer I have seen that give fits sometimes also. Crazy Millman

I think you will be happy with the SuperBee Line one thing to remmeber thses tools run better Dry in All Material excpet aluminum. It is not the heat it is the gum effect it gives you. I usually take a little cutting oil like 1/20 ratio and coat it to elimate the stick. God luck in your search dont forget to get what you want on a test and tell them to send a Rep. so you can get different ideas and if it doesn't work can always send it back no charge. I have also found that sometime a conventinal cutting wors better than climb. Crazy Millman

Hey Cadcam one thing t othink about in the delete dup in a file. If you have different layers with the same part information it wil not laod them and if it is needed inforamtion it can be a problem I think. Maybe I am out in left feild but just a thought is all. Crazy Millman

That is a good tip didint know it had that ability. Think it would be a good Tech-Tip. Just a thought. Crazy Millman

Well I have been told you can do soem machining in Mastercam with STL's. It is one of the wireframe toolpaths that works with it. WE get all of our files in STL format being Rapid Prototyping. Since I have arrived there I have got them to ask customers to send IGES, Solidworks, or Pro-E to make our job alot easier. I thought it would be a great to get a utility to translate STL's at a $8,000 to $20,000 so that is something out of the question. We got the machines moved and got 2 up Friday and the otehr 2 should be Monday. Left about 6:00pm today but wnet in about 11:30am so not too bad. Crazy Millman

Hum imagine that Crazy millman was not so Crazy Afterall. As with anything it is always easy to d othing is a way you know but it even better to be open to idea there are others that can help you get there is you let them. I am glad cg777 that you have a hell of a guy there. I think if you show him how the mastercam will make if life easier and not replacing him he will really be in your corner. It may be some give and take but as with anything worth doing it requires that. I on another note got only 2 machine up and running. No network and no A/C in our office. It was the fun time I thought it would be. I left today after 6:00pm and not sure when the system will be back up again. I know you are hanging in there and you will get it. I use to do the same thing have people call me about the machines what they could and could not do. There is nothing like real world experience. Good Luck, Crazy Millman

So You mean no one has come close to me in the different shops they have worked in. Has to be soemone out there that come close to it and if you think I am full if Sh?t can give list of all. Crazy Millman maybe that is the problem need a stable envoirment to not be crazy in hum let me see. I know the funny farm.

Hey Rekd you able to get this worked out? Crazy Millman

So if I was to say it is what it is if I knew what it was when it was the thing I thought it was then it might be said if was only the thing I said if I knew how to say it in such a way to see it clearly for the saying of what need to be said to the person saying it was only the start of something good to say to the end of something needing to be said. Hum let me see did I just double talk that is was I just blwoing smoke up someone's xxxx. Question is does it support hyperthreading? The possible answers are YES or NO how about using one of them thanks alot. Crazy Crazy Crazy Millman

Harryman nothing wrong with your attuitde got to remember some of have been aroung the block and some have not. the one who have traveld down the road and hit all the bumbs have alot more repect for it verse the people who g odown the same roand seem not ot hit them. It is also one of them thing where if you have only got 1 block down the 20 blocks you have not seen the complete road just the part of it that is in front of you. Think you got it licked then that damn potholes gets you ever time. I think when they new part of the difference of it waer off then they will feel more free to get the car out and get down the road hitting some holes or just getting lucky and missing either way it is the seam road some us always see the holes and hit them anyways or see them and remember where they are for the next time we hit that aprt fo the road. Sorry to babele just all part of what we have been through, going through, or will be going through. Crazy Millman

wow toolfab we have some parts that are 50 mb per part and there may be 10 parts to a job. the time you break up gomentry and get things the way you want it and post files and all that jazz it gets very big It three years I seen 5 gig of stuff before I got there and I have made 2 gigs in the last 5 months. I think we are going to go to a DVD buring with a 4.7 gig capacity to get the most out of things and still keep back-ups thing for those just in case times. Great things said here what this is all about. Crazy Millman

Well back last year the whole City of Jacksonville, Florida was shut down for 6 to 8 hours because of a squrriel grounding out. It cause a chain reaction that put some people without power for up to 3 days. I was lucky we where next to a sub station and was only out for like 2 hours. It sucks but it is only going to get worse as the demand grows and the ways to make it better do not cqatch up. We need to look to more efficent way of getting it from point a to point b. Crazy Millman

Does the lathe do a STL save just liek the mill and you can save the frist part and bring the STl into the second look back through some of the recent threads and they talked about it. Hope that helps good luck, Crazy Millman

I have used Superbee many times before getting Mastercam and found them to do a very good job. I would only say that I always used them for finishing operations trying to rough out as much material as possible and you have to pay clsoe attentino to the tops and sides for getting the blend the way you like I always did a prep top and side and tested what worked best of different materials just like anything Aluminum offests are always a little different than Stainless Steel. Good luck and it is up to you to keep up with what is out there and getting your vendors to bring the people to see you with the new items products and dont be affraid to ask for things on a test and tell them if it sucks. Keep on them or they get complacient. Crazy Millman

Well it was an 18 hour day yesterday cause I had to move the equipment that was vauled at 2,000,000 dollars cause it was felt like I was the best to move it, pick it up, drive the truck, unload the machines, and with help get them in place. It was not even my department. Then be back this morning to move our machines. Well yeah lost many of nights sleep working on sometinhg and thinking of better ways while laying in bed. The other difference is we do it more for us than them cause we take pride in what we do. Crazy Millman

You have been pointed it hright direction the older Fanuc contraol always required all cancel code and other thing at every toolchange. I hade a lathe one time get a G50 S500 programmed into it and it took me a day to figure out why the spindle would not go over 500 rpms. It is funny how some machine act and how soem things that should stay non-modal and modal get crazy acting sometimes. I would just modify my post at add the needed coeds that are at the beginning to be at every tool so you can insure you are getting no over lap. G98 is going back to your intinal starting z before you call the canned cycle no matter where it is. I have soemtimes seen where a machine will get grazy if there is not like a g1 to z plane that beign the last gcode the machine see verse a g0 like at the g43 height offcall. Well hope that help and sure you will get it good luck. Crazy Millman

Got that in wordpad and a notebook with all the highs alos in it. good to pass on things thought you might want to go look in the Tech Tips and do the same for that a vauiable resource. Crazy Millman