Benchmark

[Johnny M]

Matt Hajicek........2:55.526

Bogus mill .........3:0.352 Screen Shot Verified

Suks2bu.............3:35.328 Screen shot Verified

 

Mat, looks like your still the leader...

[bogusmill]

Good job Matt. Here I was thinking I still had the lead. I knew you passed me in X3. Guess I never saw your post from MU1. I couldn't have done anything about it anyway.

 

Until now. Just got a new board. The one I've recomended to several people on this forum. The one Matt has. I've seen this board run a quad core at 4.4Ghz. I might have something interesting to post on this thread in the next few days!

 

The i7 boards have been out a couple of months now. It doesn't look like any of them are yet able to challenge a C2Q board. That would be disappointing considering their cost

[Brian B 74]

I have a C2Q running 2.4GHZ overclocked to 3.2GHZ and get a time of 4:35.

 

Just built an i7 computer for engineering. With no OC (2.67GHZ) got 3:45.

 

I am sure if someone knows what they are doing an i7 board and processor will take the lead.

 

Just my $.02

[bogusmill]

Is it an OEM PC or an enthusiast board? If not OEM would you be willing to try overclocking it if I found you information on how to do it? I'm interested because it's time for new shop PC's and they tend to do what I suggest on PC purchases.

[Brian B 74]

Custom built PC:

 

Asus P6T-Deluxe Mobo

Intel Core i7-920 2.66ghz 8M LGA1366

Corsair XMS 6144MB PC12800 DDR3 1600mhz

PNY Quadro FX 1700 512MB DDR2 PCIe

Windows Vista Ultimate - 64bit

[rbb]

9 min 21 seconds

 

homebuilt computer running XP

under system:

 

Intel Pentium Dual CPU

[email protected]

1.80 GHz, 3.24 GB of RAM

Physical Address Extension

 

ps, I bought this computer from the guy who made it for $500 including 19" monitor

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

Any thoughts on this configuration ? I have a big project coming up and I am trying to figure out what I can get away with.

 

quote:

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*BASE_PRICE: [+1299]

CAS: Thermaltake M9 VI1000BWS Mid-Tower 420W Case w/ Side-panel Window [+24]

CASUPGRADE: NONE

CS_FAN: Default case fans

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-965 Extreme Edition 3.2 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366 [+790]

CD: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

CD2: NONE

CABLE: None

FLASHMEDIA: None

FAN: Intel LGA1366 Certified CPU Fan & Heatsink

FREEBIE_RM: None

FLOPPY: NONE

FREEBIE_OS: None

HDD: Single Hard Drive (128 GB Ritek RiDATA 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Nearly Instant Data Access Technology) [+310])

HDD2: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive [+59]

IEEE_CARD: NONE

KEYBOARD: Logitech Deluxe 250 USB Keyboard (Black Color)

MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

MODEM: NONE

MONITOR: NONE

MONITOR2: NONE

MOTHERBOARD: (3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte GA-EX58-UD4P Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Ultra Durable™3 Mainboard Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA,Dual GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394a,&7.1Audio [+6]

MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1800MHz Triple Channel Memory Module [+264] (Corsair or Major Brand)

NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate w/ Service Pack 1 [+105] (32-bit Edition)

PRO_WIRING: None

PRINTER: None

PRINTER_CABLE: None

POWERSUPPLY: 700 Watts Power Supplies [+86] (Thermaltake Toughpower 700W Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready)

RUSH: *SAME DAY SHIP OUT GUARANTEE*

SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

SPEAKERS: NONE

TEMP: NONE

TVRC: None

USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

USBHD: NONE

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX280 1GB 16X PCI Express [+280] (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA [+5])

VIDEO2: NONE

VIDEO3: NONE

VIDEOCAMERA: NONE

WNC: NONE

_PRICE: (+3228)

_view_: detail

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[bogusmill]

Should do fine. You list a 420W PSU early on which is a little light, and a 700W toward the end which is about right. One thing that's still up in the air is if the new i7 CPU's are better for MC than a Core 2 Quad with 12 Mb L2 cache. We've found the cache size makes a BIG difference to MC. L1 is the fastest and closest to the CPU followed by L2 then L3. Your i7 has 8Mb of L3 and I think it's 256Kb at L2. Bottom line is the i7 CPU has been out for 3 months now but none has yet to pass the C2Quad benchmark leaders. Maybe it can't in Mastercam, just isn't known yet.

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

Thanks for the input !

 

The 420W PS was the default that came with the case and as you noticed I improved it to 700.

 

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Sounds like good choices to me. The 8MB cache caught my eye as well, we'll just have to see if an i7 with 8 can beat a Xeon with 12.

[bogusmill]

This is kind of a crapshoot. You have Core 2 Quad with 12Mb of L2 cache (no L3 cache) and i7 with 256Kb L2 cache and 8Mb L3 cache it may never compete with the C2Q in X3 benchmark speed. But if X4 or X5 are capable of using more than 4 cores at once the i7 may have an advantage. It has Hyperthreading which makes it behave as if there are 8 cores.

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

So is the i7 processor likely to use several cores at once for a single application ? Earlier in this thread you noted that a dual core processor was only really working one core but the xeon was working 3 out of 4 hard...

[bogusmill]

In X3 only one core is working but in task manager under the performance tab, in the CPU usage all cores appear that they are being used when in reality it's the cache that is shared showing up on the graph. On a quad core typically one core shows very high use, 2 show medium use and one low use. The high use is the tool path, medium is shared cache and low is video card use. If you move the part you will see the low use cpu get real high use.

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

MC says I can only set my tolerence to .0002 minimun?

Where do I switch it to .0001 ?

 

Thanks

Tony

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

Got it...

9:41

Intel P4 2.66

1 Gig of Ram

Nvidia Quadro NVS with AGP8X

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

On order now...

 

 

quote:

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CAS: CoolerMaster Centurion 590 RC-590 Mid-Tower

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-965 Extreme Edition 3.2 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366 [+796]

CD: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

CABLE: Round Cable Upgrade for Optical Drive [+19]

FAN: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System (Extreme Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) [+54]

HDD: Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 2 Identical Hard Drives [+29] (300GB (150GBx2) Gaming Western Digital VelociRaptor 10,000RPM SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache WD1500HLFS [+302])

MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T Deluxe Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard SAS Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA RAID w/ eSATA,Dual GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394a,&7.1Audio [+80]

MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1800MHz Triple Channel Memory Module [+264] (Corsair or Major Brand)

NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD

OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate w/ Service Pack 1 [+105] (64-bit Edition)

PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]

POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts Power Supplies [+39] (Corsair CMPSU-750TX - Quad SLI Ready [+90])

RUSH: *SAME DAY SHIP OUT GUARANTEE*

SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

TEMP: Xion XON-MTR002B Color LCD Thermal Control Panel Display [+39]

VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX295 X2 1.7GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+419] (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA [+5])

_PRICE: (+3325) -5% discount + shipping = $3250 delivered

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I can't wait to benchmark this.

 

My current unit runs 10 minute benchmark file...

[Gene Welti. CNC Software Inc.]

5:10 Multithreading on

7:30 Multithreading off

Dell T5400

Xeon E5420 2.5 GHZ

3 GB RAM

XP SP3

Mastercam X4

 

Same machine with

Vista 64

8 GB Ram

Same times within a few percent.

[Thor]

Matt, where do you have your system on order from?

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

Hi Thor,

 

www.cyberpowerpc.com

 

They get mixed reviews but the price is always competitive and the configuration options on the website are seemingly endless.

 

I hooked up my Mom & sister with their systems. Mom's came in with the video card loose in the case (popped out of the slot in transit) but my sister's came in flawless.

[Thor]

Great Matt, Thanks for the link!

 

We have been wanting to update our system for awhile now and just didn't really know what direction to go.

 

I'll check them out now!

 

Thanks,

David

[Steve Hattori]

Gene, X3 doesn't have multi-threading, does it?

[3R!< W3NG3R]

he's teasing you Steve.

Look at the bottom, it says X4

[Steve Hattori]

Hah! phooey...

[Matt Berube at Ferron Mold]

Hey Steve & Eric :

 

What makes you think the guys & gals at CNC Software aren't playing around with X4 already ?

 

Rest assured that development & testing is well underway...

 

I think that multithreading on/off is a bios option (only available for some processors) and apparently from Gene's post it helps MC quite a bit...

 

P.S. new PC arrived today. DOH ! There isn't a parallel port for the hasp ! Boss is getting an expansion card tonight. I figure that will be cheaper & faster than updating to USB hasps for MC & Topsolid...

 

Hopefully testing tomorrow...

[bogusmill]

Multi-threading is a BIOS option but turning it off makes the CPU run on one core only so graphics and toolpath share one core just like a single core. It's like the difference of quad core vs. single core and the times posted look like they match that scenerio.