New EDm suggestions

[Reverend Turk]

We are looking to purchase a new EDM and are wondering what are you gusy using?

 

We have a charmilles and want to change brands.

[Guest]

wire or sinker

[Reverend Turk]

Wire, submersible...sorry..should have put that

[htm01]

we have the fanuc robocut id and like it

[Columbo™]

We just got a new Makino SP43......

 

Just sitting there......

 

Installer hasn't shown up yet.....

 

in the building for two weeks and still not on..

 

[Reverend Turk]

WOW...I also heard Sodick's were good. Anyone ever used one that has any info on them?

[Guest]

ive used fanucs, sodicks and japax. agies have a good selection of wires also.it depends on what you are wiring.fanucs are accurate to .00011 per side,have an excellent wire threader,and great support.i will also say that for the money they are a wise choice.they hold up well.there are all kinds of opinions out there. i personally just like the fanucs. i have 3 of em.

[Allan]

I've seen the Makinos in action, great stuff if you can afford it.

[ToolMan184]

I will never own another AGIE. Had 2 of them and they will break you on replacement parts. I currently have a CHMER but would buy a FANUC if I had it to do all over with.

[Reverend Turk]

Looks like the Sodick has a machine with a biot more travel which would be nice. The largest Fanuc I see is about 23.5" x 16 x 12.

 

We wire a ton of inconel and stainless with the occasional aluminum part

[MAKINOPAT]

We are using Makinos and are very happy with them. As far as submersibles I have also used Sodicks and after using the Makinos would definately recommend them. If your looking for alot of travel they have one with 31.5 x travel with almost 20" Z.

[Camdude®]

me likes Makinos,

[Lars Christensen]

Don't forget to look at Mitsubishi. Few years back we had Mitsubishi FA20 and Charmilles 440 next to each other for almost 6 months competing for a spot at our shop floor. We picked Mitsubishi and have been very happy with the choice.

[JAMMAN]

Mitsubishi and Charmilles is all I'd look at. Having never actually run one, was in key positions at several places. Sodick always sucked, Fanuc might be famous for their controllers but I saw a brand new one not cut for a week straight for a year without something major happening and the accuracy was crap no matter how many skim cuts you took.

 

The Charmilles seems to be slightly more versatile and the Mits a little more accurate if you keep up on the guides. The difference seemed to be a lot in the operators.

 

Never worked at a place that could afford a Makino but the reputation speaks loudly and if I had a gazillion dollars at my disposal I'd look at one.

 

Jim

[shazam/TPP]

we have an older Sodick A280L, a Fanuc Alpha OiA,

and a charmilles 240cc. of those hands down the fanuc, excellant wire threader, easy edge finding and wire alignment. i'll take the older sodick before the Charmilles not that it's faster just ease of setup and operating. I've also been reading about the new Makino Duo64, have the brochure right in front of me. we are possibly going to purchase a new wire this year and it will be either Fanuc or Makino.

[CAM-mando]

We have Charmilles 2030TW. super accurate machine with amazingly reliable threader. We also had a 240 and sent it back. My experience with the 240 is the same as Shazam described. The 240 and similar machines are low end asian built machines to compete in the cheaper market with machines like fanuc etc. They are not real Charmillles machine in my opinion.

[Guest]

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Fanuc might be famous for their controllers but I saw a brand new one not cut for a week straight for a year without something major happening and the accuracy was crap no matter how many skim cuts you took.

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whoever was runnng that machine didnt know what they were doing or that machine had been crashed.

[John@WMM]

I have been running 2 fanuc robocuts for about 5 years. The fanucs seen pretty good. I ran an older Brother before the Fanucs and I didn't like it that much.

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We have 2 funucs here also and nothing ever goes wrong with them except the occasional Operator Error.

[Guest]

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the occasional Operator Error.

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im glad that i never mess up.

[Reverend Turk]

Right now it looks like we are leaning towards either the Fanuc or the Makino. I wish there was some better info online about the Makino software and the controller though. Looks like a trip to the reseller is a must because there is not much online.

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im glad that i never mess up.

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Awww now Del....you know you've trashed a few flush cups by rapiding into the workpiece

[mikeqes]

Cam_mando,

Have they started recently making the 240 in Asia?

My 240 is all swiss, but its 5 years old, so they

might have changed production since then.

I must say I really like my machine, it will hold a tenth all day long and has impressed the inspector

running our cmm quite a few times. I cant compare it to anything else though because its the only wire

I have ever run. Maybe ignorance is bliss.

 

I must say I don't find Charmmiles support as good

as it was before they merged with agie.

 

Mike

[Guest]

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Awww now Del....you know you've trashed a few flush cups by rapiding into the workpiece

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i think i did a few years back

[Jerry_P]

I have run Charmilles for 4 years and Mitsubishi for 12 Years. Hate the Charmilles, hate their machine and support. Love the Mits, both there machines and support. I would say buy a Mitsubishi.