!@#$%^&* ARGH! I Hate the new Trim!!!!

[DavidSV]

Is there any way to turn off the damn trim preview?

[Colin Gilchrist]

+ eleventy billion

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Just out of curiosity's sake, why don't you like it?

[peon]

I concur, that preview is a pain in my xxxx.

[MIL-TFP-41]

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Just out of curiosity's sake, why don't you like it?

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I ask the same thing also....while it does need some refinement...I like it

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

I think the problem they are having is that sometimes the preview will cause a "zero length line" error before the line has even been trimmed.

[peon]

Yes REX and the fact that it also causes a delay before the wireframe trims. It would be nice if I had the option to turn it off.

[Colin Gilchrist]

The other thing that is a pain is when you are trimming two entities that are really close together.

 

James, you ever have a chain that looks complete, but there are some really small gaps/overlaps that are stopping you from chaining a toolpath? With the trim preview, it can be a real pain to try and re-trim a section.

 

I also find that the graphical preview takes a split second to invoke, so if you are used to trimming quickly, you can get out of sequence very quickly, because the preview has not updated while you are picking the second entity.

 

I just think it is one of those features that can slow you down.

 

Trim worked just fine for how many years?

 

Now we have to cater to the noobs that can't figure it out.

 

Sorry, I'm done ranting.

[mpeterson]

Well I agree it takes some getting used to, but I am starting to do some training with guys that have no CAD experience and for training purposes it's pretty handy.

 

Mike in MN

[Thee Rickster ™]

It is the least of my problems.

[Chris Rizzo]

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... worked just fine for how many years?

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seems to be a recurring theme around here lately, huh.

 

It is nice for training I'll agree and does help visualize. I'll also agree with the other folks when an off-switch to make it work correctly would be great.

[Tim Johnson]

The preview threw me off a little for the first week or so but I'm used to it now and sorta like it. Would I miss it if it was removed? Probably not...

[Tony35]

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Now we have to cater to the noobs that can't figure it out.

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the noobs need to get some basic training on MC and they will be fine. trimming is not a space shuttle launch.

this getting a 6 year old to program is got to stop it seems like we have taken steps backwards not forwards in the software JM2C

 

give us the option to turn it OFF!

[DavidSV]

I just hate it because if I have a complex model that I am doing wireframe with, and I am trying to trim 2 lines, it will keep giving me a pop up that interrupts the process because it can't preview what I am not trying to do. Then I have to try again and again, reposition the model, so that I can click the proper lines without getting too close to the lines I don't want. Argh! Its just a pain in the xxxx and I wish there was an option to turn it off. Give me the alarm after I click or something....

[Goldorak]

i just hate it!!! period

 

like Colin said when you got to trim .005 radius to get it tangent to a .015 long line it can be really hard to achive

 

in previous version i never got any issue with trim , so why they change it.....

[PeterM]

I strongly dislike it. I am having to break myself of the double click to trim two entities that I was happily using because it screws up all the time now, and with no handy undo you have to back out of the function, undo and then trim all over again. Not what I would call efficient.

[Mjölnir]

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Just out of curiosity's sake, why don't you like it?

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X4 Trimming Auto Preview Feature

 

See my second post in that thread.

 

And, the zero length entity messages are becoming annoying too.

 

This is one feature that really needs to be permanently discarded. Mastercam is supposed to be a CAD/CAM system, making it into an Etch-A-Sketch is NOT forward progress.

[Mjölnir]

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I just hate it because if I have a complex model that I am doing wireframe with, and I am trying to trim 2 lines, it will keep giving me a pop up that interrupts the process because it can't preview what I am not trying to do. Then I have to try again and again, reposition the model, so that I can click the proper lines without getting too close to the lines I don't want.

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+ 1 quintillion

[3R!< W3NG3R]

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I am having to break myself of the double click to trim two entities that I was happily using because it screws up all the time now

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this part bugs me the most

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Fair enough. It has not been a problem for me yet. I asked, not because I wanted to be a PITA, or a fanboi, but because I pretty much like it. But, I can definitely see an advantage for being able to turn it off.

 

JM2C

[Ron Branch @ Verisurf]

I complained about it in the Beta cycle and still hate it for the most part. It to me is more of a PIA than an help. I was glad to see the CAD side getting some love, but too much of something sometimes can be a bad thing and just like the annoying errors on posting this is another one that got to much work and thought put into it. I still have posts that spit out perfect code and show nothing that is an in the error dialog but say there are errors.

 

I understand people put effort into their work to bring something like this to use the users and not trying to dismiss that hard work, but see this preview thing a problem that effects many long time users to the point it is going backwards from a user standpoint not forward.

 

HTH

[LaszloK]

I wouldn't mind the preview if the result matched the preview. Most of my "zero length line" errors are eliminated by not going directly from one entity to the next. I simply make a small loop off one and onto the next. Another "work around" and a little more mouse movement, but much fewer errors.

[Ron Branch @ Verisurf]

Funny I see more problems and error with the preview that I have saw to a factor of like a 20 times more. I might have had a problem 3 times out of 100 now sometimes it seems like 50 out of a 100. Other times are better but never seen the zero line lengths and such do I see with the preview I see now.

[Colin Gilchrist]

We just need a switch to turn it off for power users.

 

If that can't be done, CNC Software should eliminate it all together.

 

For every one person this helps, it hurts 3 others.

 

Plus, when all these new guys get good at Mastercam, they will be just as frustrated as the rest of us...

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

CATIA's preview works pretty much the same way but I have trouble with trim in CATIA and not in Mastercam.