Mastercam 2017 Update 2

[gcode]

has been released

 

It addresses the Tool Manager crash that has plagued some people

 

there are several ways to install it

 

do nothing .. at some point Mastercam will tell you an update is available

 

download and install it from Mastercam.com

 

or

 

Start/ALL Programs/Mastercam 2017/Check for updates

 

the same procedure also applies to MCfSW 2017

 

 

 

 

[Roger]

Thanks for the update.  pun intended. LOL

[Mick]

has been released

 

It addresses the Tool Manager crash that has plagued some people

 

there are several ways to install it

 

do nothing .. at some point Mastercam will tell you an update is available

 

download and install it from Mastercam.com

 

or

 

Start/ALL Programs/Mastercam 2017/Check for updates

 

the same procedure also applies to MCfSW 2017

 

Has it fixed the +D+Z issue, or is that still fritzed?

 

You'd laugh if I told you where I was posting this from....

[Guest]

Has it fixed the +D+Z issue, or is that still fritzed?

 

You'd laugh if I told you where I was posting this from....

 

Oo Oo Oo, I know,I know  

[Newbeeee™]

Has it fixed the +D+Z issue, or is that still fritzed?

 

You'd laugh if I told you where I was posting this from....

Frogs legs for lunch Mick?

[gcode]

Has it fixed the +D+Z issue, or is that still fritzed?

 

You'd laugh if I told you where I was posting this from....

No it only addresses the Tool Manager crash.

 

There is nothing funny about software so complex you half to fly half way around the world to learn to use it.

Of course when you live in New Zealand, you have to fly half way around the world to do just about anything   

[Newbeeee™]

No it only addresses the Tool Manager crash.

 

There is nothing funny about software so complex you half to fly half way around the world to learn to use it.

Of course when you live in New Zealand, you have to fly half way around the world to do just about anything   

It's a shame - the timing thing - I was going to jump on a train and shoot down there to have a beer with him.

But we can't do it this time.

I'm sure they'll be a next time.

[Pete Rimkus from CNC Software Inc.]

Note that this update also provides support for opening SolidWORKS 2017 parts/assemblies into Mastercam 2017.

[Thee Rickster ™]

Note that this update also provides support for opening SolidWORKS 2017 parts/assemblies into Mastercam 2017.

 

Did it also fix the tool magically renaming itself to 'Standard Drill' etc., when editing

values?

[Mick]

No it only addresses the Tool Manager crash.

 

There is nothing funny about software so complex you half to fly half way around the world to learn to use it.

Of course when you live in New Zealand, you have to fly half way around the world to do just about anything   

 

LOL, but when the features it provides fill your suitcase, the baggage charges are worth it. Back at ya... LOL

[Mick]

Oo Oo Oo, I know,I know  

 

LOL, that you do

[MIL-TFP-41]

Thank gawd. 2017 has been the most unproductive, unreliable hunk of sh!t since X3. Yes the tool manager bug was that bad.

[gcode]

Thank gawd. 2017 has been the most unproductive, unreliable hunk of sh!t since X3. Yes the tool manager bug was that bad.

For some people the Tool Manager crash was a nightmare

for others, it never happened.. pretty weird, but it is what it is.

 

The good news is that as far as I know, Update 2 has fixed this issue for everybody

[MrFish]

Has it fixed the +D+Z issue, or is that still fritzed?

 

You'd laugh if I told you where I was posting this from....

I know !!!

[Guest]

Tool Manager bug was a serious challenge to work around. :

[Mick]

It's a shame - the timing thing - I was going to jump on a train and shoot down there to have a beer with him.

But we can't do it this time.

I'm sure they'll be a next time.

 

There definitely will be. I'll be back here, either for work or vacation, or both

[MIL-TFP-41]

For some people the Tool Manager crash was a nightmare

for others, it never happened.. pretty weird, but it is what it is.

 

The good news is that as far as I know, Update 2 has fixed this issue for everybody

I was a nightmare. All 6 of our milling seats had this issue. If you were working off established libraries, you were safe. If you had to create a tool, you would make damn sure you saved before you did it. Update 1 was supposed to address this issue, time will tell if update 2 actually does.

 

2017 should of never been released before this fix. I hate to be that kind of critic, and people say "it only happened sometimes to some people", but when it happened all the time across 6 seats and people ask the guy who installed it (me) why...you get the idea of my frustration. It's no exaggeration to say that hours and hours of productivity were lost.

 

Ok vent over. I do like the new interface, to the point where I did suffer through the crashes for the past month or two.

[Guest]

I was a nightmare. All 6 of our milling seats had this issue. If you were working off established libraries, you were safe. If you had to create a tool, you would make damn sure you saved before you did it. Update 1 was supposed to address this issue, time will tell if update 2 actually does.

 

2017 should of never been released before this fix. I hate to be that kind of critic, and people say "it only happened sometimes to some people", but when it happened all the time across 6 seats and people ask the guy who installed it (me) why...you get the idea of my frustration. It's no exaggeration to say that hours and hours of productivity were lost.

 

Ok vent over. I do like the new interface, to the point where I did suffer through the crashes for the past month or two.

 

I too dealt with this....update 1 did fix it for some, but not all, not me for sure....

 

We installed the update this morning and I have been running on the drivers released with this patch for few weeks and have suffered no further crashes

 

We have 5 seats here, I was the only one that had the issue

[gcode]

We have 5 seats here and no one had this issue.

For me personally, MC2017 has been the most stable version of Mastercam to date

I do realize that doesn't do a thing for the people suffering the Tool Manager crash though.

[Guest]

...

2017 should of never been released before this fix. ...

 

My understanding was that it was not a large number of users that encountered this issue. Besides the guys in here (myself included) that experienced it, I did not know any others that did. So, I respectfully disagree. They can't hold up a release for something like this. Believe me, I have flagged a bug that stopped a release. I don't think this rose to that level.

 

IMHO of course.

[crazy^millman]

My understanding was that it was not a large number of users that encountered this issue. Besides the guys in here (myself included) that experienced it, I did not know any others that did. So, I respectfully disagree. They can't hold up a release for something like this. Believe me, I have flagged a bug that stopped a release. I don't think this rose to that level.

 

IMHO of course.

I think I have got a few of those also, but like many others I never seen this issue on 3 different OS on 12 different systems. I have seen others and got numbers, bot not this one time.

[gcode]

My understanding was that it was not a large number of users that encountered this issue. Besides the guys in here (myself included) that experienced it, I did not know any others that did. So, I respectfully disagree. They can't hold up a release for something like this. Believe me, I have flagged a bug that stopped a release. I don't think this rose to that level.

 

IMHO of course.

Yes.. they get very unhappy when you submit a show stopper... 2 days before the planned release date  

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Well the messed up "access keys" are still a show stopper for me.  Does anyone actually use and like them the way they are in 2017?

[jlw™]

is that where the little grey squares pop up in the top left corner? I seriously wish I could turn that off.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

Yeah, when you hit <Alt>, then to get into toolpaths you hit <J> <M>.

 

Access keys in 2017 take way more keystrokes than in X9, and were selected expressly to not make sense.  For example, in X9 one of my most used toolpaths is <Alt> <T> <F> <F>, for Alt Toolpaths Finish Flowline.  Makes sense and takes four keystrokes and about a quarter of a second.  In 2017 it's <Alt> <J> <M> <F> <F> <L>, which stands for what exactly?  I seriously want to know what was going through their heads when they thought this was a good idea.

 

Face, X9: <Alt> <T> <A>

Face, 2017: <Alt> <J> <M> <D> <F>

 

Contour, X9: <Alt> <T> <C>

Contour, 2017: <Alt> <J> <M> <D> <C>

 

Drill, X9: <Alt> <T> <D>

Drill, 2017: <Alt> <J> <M> <D> <H> <D> - WTF?!  What's the "H" supposed to stand for?

 

 

Really, since toolpathing is the primary purpose of Mastercam, why did they make access to the Toolpath menu more difficult?

 

Since most of us are professional users for whom time is money, why did they make it slower to use?

 

Because the marketing department wanted eye candy, that's why.

 

And yes, the survey I posted here did show that more people find 2017 slower than X9.