That's awesome. I have only ran 3+2 jobs so far on the matsuuras so I have yet to feel the need to tackle this subject but this sounds like a great way to go about it. I do not mind a Z retract at all, but the M05 + M09 for no reason between toolpaths would probably be a little annoying if I was feeling O.C.D. haha Always a fun line to walk when trying to appease my O.C.D. and just let "good enough" be good enough. Usually how busy I feel dictates my decision.

I can definitely see your point. I will stick to forced tool changes between multiaxis operations on the Matsuuras then For the Haas I have found some "workarounds" that seem to really smooth out the process. Main one being under "feed rate control" in a multiaxis toolpath I will have checked "custom feedrate for clearance blend spline" and "replace rapid with feedrate". and then under the multiaxis link settings I'll have it checked to output feedrates as well. I'll usually have them set around 50-100 inches per minute (with butt puckered and hand on the feed stop button) to first prove it out and if the motion is smooth out at the machine I'll up it to 200-250. Essentially this will force all of the multiaxis toolpaths to stay in TCPC during relinking (while in that operation) but during the actual multiaxis linking moves it does swap back to dynamic work offsets (haas g68.2) so I am still technically rolling the dice a bit. Now really thinking about it I'll probably stop using the multiaxis link on the haas just for standardization's sake though especially since eventually I'll be too busy to prove out every single multiaxis program. Appreciate the insight!

I've never had an issue with the mastercam 5 axis link. Generally I'll prove the program out with forced tool changes between each multiaxis path and then once I have them all dialed in I'll go back in and add the multiaxis link. Then go re-prove it out again lol

yup even Haas goes about it the same way, G254 DWO to position and then turn off, and activate G234

I used to be just like that. This is all fine and dandy as long as someone before you has done "all the hard work". I came up in a 3axis haas shop. I learned to program using mastercam and an established haas post. This was my life for years and I never had to do/add/change anything. Then we got a UMC-500 and all of a sudden I had to get familiar with a LOT of new G code. Then I didn't run any simultaneous 5ax toolpaths for almost a year because my post was messed up and wouldn't output G234 TCPC correctly. Eventually I had a job that HAD to be machined using full 5axis and I finally went down the rabbit hole of post-reseller tickets and the back and forth. About 7-8 iterations of that and now my Haas UMC post works right LOL. and then of course now with with the matsuuras comes a bevy of new G code to learn. and yeah you pretty much need to at least have a half assed idea of what is going on to be able to properly troubleshoot issues IMO. I still have a lot to learn but slowly getting there.

Ahhh yes I can definitely see that making a difference over a large quantity order. I'll keep that in mind if that becomes an issue for us overnight.

Will do! So far I've only ran a handful of programs so they are just on cnc memory but I'll swap everything over for my next project. this sounds very intriguing. I am currently making a few DIY tombstones for the MX-330 and I've been thinking about programming.. I don't have experience on horizontals so I never really have ran more than a couple of parts at a time, so I have always used toolpath transform.

I wouldn't be the best person to ask, but if I had to guess I would say that is not installed. I know we run 2 programs at once obviously, on S1 and S2, but I don't believe we have the ability to edit both simultaneously. I believe if the machine didn't come with it, sales never offered it to us, and we never asked about it. It was our first lathe outside of Haas so I think we just figured it would come with "the basics" As far as I know, even things like smoothing settings don't seem to work for them on that machine, or they never got it figured out? idk not my department so I gladly don't involve myself LOL Since purchase of the machine I think we've gone back 2 or 3 times and added features, more memory, etc.

I do have to say, I agree with you there. We just recently went through a little memory card debacle at our shop with the DN TT2100SYYB, spend near a half a million dollars on a machine and it has less than two megabytes haha I'm struggling to make that make sense. What kind of dual turret dual spindle lathe wouldn't be running large(ish) programs??? smh add that to the laundry list of crucial info we had to find out "the hard way" IIRC our matsuuras have 1gig of internal memory on the data server but I've only loaded a handful of small programs so I haven't even had to go that route yet.

Hahaha that's exactly what I have done. It's painfully annoying trying to even get my modifications to go as I'd like. I've thought about trying to convince the boss man to get Varco Reports. I have heard great things about it. http://varcoreporting.com/ I can see they already have feed/tooth shown

At my shop we recently dove head first into automation, got a mx-330 pc10 and mam72-52v. I've been running the MX for a few weeks now lights out and I have to say it's been a breeze. Only on the second job on the machine but it's been smooth sailing. I can't compare to a hermle or DMG though; I came from a Haas UMC so this is quite the step up lol Very soon I'll be starting on the first job for the 52v and I'm quite nervous/excited. Still waiting on fixturing but I was doing some tests inside mastercam/CAMplete for clearance with these schunk WDM 5x modules, it's surprising how little you have to raise your workpiece off of the table for access. I actually wanted to get 100mm tall modules but sadly they only had 125mm in stock. (dummy reference part I extruded but general shape is there)

had to google,... never heard of that stuff but that sounds interesting... I'll keep this in mind for future fixturing mess-ups

I like it until one of my operators crashes into something and eggs out one of those holes milled into the table Personally I would be open to having some locating holes milled directly into tables, but I would much prefer something like a 1" baseplate which locates off of the bushing holes but after you locate and tighten down the subplate, you could remove the bushing/locating pins just to ensure that your precious locating holes don't get fudged up from a crash.. maybe I'm over thinking it lol I tend to do that. I just designed a few tombstones for new machines and I did something like 12-20 locating pin holes per face just to "cover all my bases" for future subplate designs, and if someone crashes and messes up a locating hole we can swap to an unmolested one haha.

keep us posted on your findings

I just got a fresh copy of CAMplete and it seems as though it did come with Fusion, but I did not install it.. (yet??) I should probably google "what is HSMworks" to start

great read! this was the one that really set it in stone for me: ( I'd start at 2:45:00 LOL )

The only thing I ever have really customized was my right click menu,.. other than that I just roll with the defaults. ehh probably not the best choice but it's all good.

I honestly haven't messed with the new 3 axis deburr but multiaxis deburr is IMO a total game changer on a 3axis machine. drop in a nice lollipop cutter and you can get some pretty rad results and a way nicer looking finished product when it's not just some simple orthogonal part.

Awesome, thanks for showing that. Great workaround!! After your G43 H## line, it reads G65 P9510 Z2. Does that mean the probe is "protected" from tool change position down to 2.0? If so, I like that. Sorry I've only been using a probe for about a year and in-process probing a few months max, so I'm still an amateur. and it's been the only spindle probe in my shop so I've got no one to go to besides the internet lol. I've always kind of strayed away from macro programming/modifying posts/things of that nature because it was confusing and I'm at a tipping point in my career where I'm definitely having to give in to progress further now

I'll probably go the manual entry route when it comes to probing, I do like leon's workaround method (at least my limited understanding of it at the moment heh). But I did get the whole fusion package with our camplete so I'll keep that in mind lol I really want to dive in on the CAMplete side of things because that's where my knowledge lacks the most, but sadly I've been just too busy on other jobs + drawing up workholding options like D.I.Y. tombstones for both the 330 and MAM (been fun but definitely takes some time) guess I can't worry too much about programs + getting them to run if we have no way to hold parts + tools

Yes I am very curious of what your findings will be!

wow, that's wild! Most of my work is high mix low volume so tbh I'm not usually worrying about a few extra rapids here or there. My longest cycle time is like 2hr 45 min and that's on a small tombstone. A part of me is slightly excited about getting some higher quantities to focus on the process and get that cycle time down. Usually I'm running 25 parts while also programming the next job for the machine so I can't be bothered too too much to just watch the machine run and try to optimize. bad xxxx job though!

Thanks, I have a lot to learn!! lots going over my head haha but I'll get there eventually

you are the man I would be okay with something like that. Thank you leon, I may recommend that if the AE has no better idea.

whhhaaaaaat? That makes me sad I love CIMCO for probing. Next week I'm finally getting training with an AE on the machines, I have so many questions lol. I am working from home right now so I will have to get back with you next week on that. Appreciate the help on all of this