wow that looks like its gonna be a heck of a tool to find.... The guys upstairs always quote stuff like that dirt cheep and then get mad at me when I have to order custom tooling that takes weeks to get and cost a fortune...

10 crashes since Jan 1... Man that would be nice. I get atleast 3 a day, but only right after I've accomplished something amazing!

We need system upgrades, 2019 Crashes like crazy for us, pretty sure we need better graphics cards. I use 2019 on occasion but our Engineering Manager wont sign of on it yet because of stability issues, lack of reverse integration. Remember the good old days when you could save backwards... but I need a tool path to do almost the same thing the OP is after right now and if there is something new in there that can do it better I need to test it out.. They generally wait about a year before changing to a new version and truth be told I think 2018 is great, probably the best one at least to that point, but we have one dinosaur on staff that hates change, and we have to be able to open each others files to make adjustments so I'm between a rock and a pyramid.. lol

Sorry to hijack. What toolpath are you speaking of??? Equal scalup or is there a 3d finishing path somewhere? Someday we will start using 2019

wish I could help but I can tell u a good aggregate post makes all the difference. After weeks of messing with that stuff, we purchased one and right out of the box it did everything I could have hoped for and more. I am no fan of paying for posts but sometimes you save alot of time and money in the end. Good luck

Happy to report the new MP Master looks like a winner in this... Thanks Colin! Right out of the box it seems to do everything I need, just leaves the G05 on through null tool changes, turns it off when its supposed to, and doesn't seem to ever post it without a g43.... The only bad thing about this was it just cost the company$$$ for me to update to newer post, thankfully this was a set up piece but still I would have liked to first article it for data.... Better be real good on the next one! when I have time I'll fish around for info on how to change one of the misc reals into a switch for G332, I'm sure its been discussed on here. Thanks again everyone!

got VERICUT dialed in today, that helps major. I love that stuff... Found a few more problems in there that I am glad I never came a cross on the control. The null tool change is the least of my problems. lol turns out that if you are trying to use multi passes on something like a 5 axis curve (in 4 axis for my case) every time it picks up to come back for the finish pass, bam! another G49, G05.1, with out a G43..... I am in the danger zone with this stuff for sure. But man it works so good on the machine. I spent about an hour reading through the mori book and it gives u tidbits of useful info like I am calling a R# after my "G05.1 Q1 R#".. But it appears, at least according the book the R# does nothing. Q1=on, Q0=off that simple. But something the book mentions that instantly made me pucker was that any rapid move temporally cancels the look ahead and then turns it back on after the rapid. YIKES! I usually program my retracts as feed moves in opti-programs but I am hoping that this does not have adverse affects on toolpaths with rapid moves??? I'm gonna download the newest MPMaster and just see how it posts out.. I'm pretty sure it works right out of the box for the Mori code, select horizonal and not haas in the switches and I think its gonna give me the same code, but hopefully with more logic.

I just need a G43 H#, Yeah $200 doller endmill into a $500 piece of material... Took that good feeling away real quick.. Vericut was no help cause I need to modify the G49 area in there it always alarms out at a G49... Lesson learned always check your code when trying new stuff

its definitely an older MP Master, that has been through the migration a lot of times.... Something else for the Colin list... lol

Wow just learned an expensive lesson about stringing 2 toolpaths together with G05.1 and Not using a forced tool change.... G49 is bad.... with out a new G43

man thanks again for this Guru, I'm like a kid at Christmas with this right now. This Mori Hori I programmed was shaking and making a mess of some surfaces I was trying to machine, and even worse running slower than a 1 legged dog on 4 axis moves.... Some look ahead and now its smooth and fast... I even shaved a few minutes off some optirough paths with it today... Super happy, now if I could just get it to spit out a G332 and the G05.1, I would be able to do it all with out editing any code, that would be real nice

yeah buddy, lie to it and tell it one tooth. I also always drive it off a point rather than an arc. Dont know why, guess I just like to define my major diameter, just how I do it... I hardly ever use a tap anymore.... Crappy thing is sometimes you change something and it defaults back to 3 teeth...err always back plot a thread mill before posting..

GURU THAT DID WHAT i NEEDED THANK YOU....

NEVER USED THE DEBUGGER????? I wouldnt know where to start... lol seems like this might be the area maybe the mr2$ is allready adding the "R"??

lol.... I would agree, any idea about where to look?

when posting with G05.1 I am getting RR instead of just R. What am I doing wrong?

how it it being located on said trunion, what planes do you have to use if were just to attack it as a 3 axis? multi axis paths are tricky, containment plays a role, how you drive it via curves, splines, surfaces, or lines also plays a role. Most of the toolpaths like triangle mesh have multiple places asking you what axis it rotates on, what axis you would like to retract on and so on, lots of things to experiment with so none of that helps either. Some times you have to create extended geometry and different boundaries to trick it into doing what you want. Still struggling to picture it here but if you need the tool to hit multiple angles along a pass to define a feature, you might need to drive it with a chain or spline that can make the tool tilt away from said feature to keep the angle you want. Or sometimes you create lines perpendicular to the features that would represent the angle of the tilt and drive with path with lines instead of a chain/spline. Sometimes you get lucky and just driving it off the surface works but not often enough. I'm just throwing things out there to get your wheels turning but if you find time whip up a simple version of a similar part and post the file, you will find all the help you ever wanted, seems like everyone on here enjoys a good challenge.. lol

There is alot to that toolpath for sure and it can do almost anything. But more info is needed. Are you on a 4 axis or 5? as in 3 axis with a rotary? or a horizontal? are you looking to machine all 360 degrees of the football? what shape is the stock? etc... As much info as you have given still really doesnt draw a clear enough picture for me to try to get you going. I have spent alot of time with this toolpath lately, its very versatile.

I could stay at my desk all week and never get up, but I prefer to run my own set-up and first piece. We have guys for it but, I like to know how my cuts are going first hand. Alot of times a good machinist will make changes to a program on the fly and you will never know what they did. I would rather make the changes myself.. We have an inhouse Catia/Solidworks engineer that is practically handcuffed to his desk though, so if your looking for desk work that might be the direction to go. All he does is verify files, make blueprints and the occasional model.. Pretty posh job.

Aaron thanks a million my friend. I made some pretty good progress with these toolpaths today. Got a few ops to work the way I wanted them too, and discovered the hidden gem (project curve) worked wonderfully, way better with check surfaces and lead in/out than any of the conventional tool paths. A few of the other things I attempted are still problematic, seems like controlling over all cut depths( mainly start depth) is not happy as well as undercuts (allready unchecked extend toolholder to infinity), I can make them work for a vertical, but in a horizontal environment. Some more experimentation is in order. I feel like these paths offer so much more than the old stuff and best of all they dont take 10 min to regenerate like surface finish contour can.

Ill give it a go and see what happens.. lol but to be clear I am staying on Top, Front, Front and then retracting on Y. I feel like I have tried this before but Ill try to paint my self into a corner again in the morning.. I seem to have the least amount of problems with parallel. I have made that work a few times but seems like Triangle mesh, constant Z is one of the ones I struggle with. It sounds like the toolpath I want to use alot of times cause of the ability to make it spiral/ramp down in things like pockets. But Im working off memory for the moment I'll play with it a bit in the morning and pinpoint the area of confusion. A part I am working on at the moment would benefit greatly from these tool paths. They never give me the easy stuff anymore... errr

Thanks got that when in 4 axis, but the additional planes still create issues with the retract directions

Can anyone help me make sense of how the planes affect this. Lately I am using more of the multiaxis stuff locked in 3 axis. But on horizontals this gets tricky. I use Top, Front, Front always and usally program from center of rotation with as many incremental values as possible. Some of these tool paths work great others get completly out of control because of the multiple plane selection windows. Its driving me crazy. I hate using suface contour anymore, and love the roughing and undercutting abilities of Triangle mesh and multi-parallel but dam it if its not a chore every time to get them to work on a hori.. Any help or guidance is appreciated.

I to gave up on this and purchased a Post. So Glad I did, two weeks of my life I will never get back

I am good when ever you want to do it. I will make it work. Sorry I didn't see the thread over here until after the weekend. I think that for the sake of it all u should probably just pick a time that works best for you and do a sign up. If you don't get enough people than obviously we would have to find a different way. But ultimately I hope it will work. I am willing to bet if set up 2, 2 hour office hours every month with an open sign up, you would fill the classes... lol God knows I always have questions