Selling my seat

[ftroop59]

How do I sell my seat of Mastercam.It's Mill Level 1 with Art.

[gcode]

You don't.. read the licensing agreement

C:Mcam9mlicense.pdf

You may be able to sell it to someone,

but the buyer will not be able to

upgrade it without paying a serious upgrade fee

If you read the license doc, you'll see that you

didn't buy Mastercam, you leased the rights to use it

and you do not have the rights to transfer the lease.

 

Long story short.. you may sell the HASP

to someone but the buyer is getting hosed

[cobra95kev]

Yeah I tried to buy the seat from my last employer that was closing and the reseller nixed it. I was told I would have to buy the whole business.

[gcode]

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I was told I would have to buy the whole business

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If you're talking about a guy like

me, who contracts out of my spare

bedroom, you could make a good arguement

that the HASP was the whole business.

 

[ 07-27-2009, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: gcode ]

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

You could buy the CAD/CAM department of the business...

 

Or for that matter, the Mastercam department of the business.

[ftroop59]

What I mean is can my reseller "buy" it back.

[ftroop59]

I bought this seat for myself to work with until I could actually start a business.That's not going to work out.

[Todd Tracey from Fastech]

No on the reseller

[Dave.L]

I'd love to hear the software people's reason (other than increased sales) for not allowing the seat to be sold.

 

JM2C

[gcode]

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for not allowing the seat to be sold

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you can't sell what you don't own.. you are leasing the rights to use thier intellectual property

[Dave.L]

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you can't sell what you don't own.. you are leasing the rights to use thier intellectual property

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It’s semantics. What do you image the reason is for not being able to sell your license? Like I said, it’s about more sales for them. And, you purchase the license, not lease. Again, it's all semantics

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Aren't most things about money?

[gcode]

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it's all semantics

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No.. its a legal agreememnt you entered into when you installed the software... the same agreement that governs the use of virtally evey software on the market.

You do not own Mastercam, you have leased the rights to use it and CNC Software can revoke it

if you violate the TOS.

A couple of years ago Autodesk sued a guy who bought some obsolete Autocad seats from a community college then resold them on Ebay.

Autodesk lost and there was some debate the suit

would result in changes to software licensing.

Doesn't seem to have happened though.

[PeterDnz]

"you leased the rights to use it

and you do not have the rights to transfer the lease."

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Doesn't this apply to most software packages today?

Solidworks is the same as far as we can tell.

It's hard to accept from an owners point of view but nobody focuses on this detail when they're trying to justify buying the thing in the first place.

That would imply either the product has limited long term value, or you don't expect to be in business long term and are interested in re-sale value.

[mold100]

Technically you should only ever pay maitence IMO, I bought my seat of Solidworks by taking over the contracted loan agreement from my closing employer, if this were same situation I actually would be interested, Mill 1 doesnt get me much but its upgradable, instead of looking at that they just say nope. I was offered the same companies paid for seat of Mcam and the Lic. transfer was 1/2 the seat cost for Mill Lev 3 with solids at the time (v9) just starting my business I couldnt do it then. There should be no thousandes up front if its leased property, just mait.

[gcode]

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That would imply either the product has limited long term value

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That's an interesting question.

Technically, software should have no impact

on the value of a company... I wonder what

a accountant woul say?

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

So CATIA has no value to Boeing? I hate CATIA and all but, CATIA DEFINITELY adds value to Boeing.

 

JM2C

[Colin Gilchrist]

You sure about that James?

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Well, I know CATIA is a cluster but c'mon

[Fred @ Slate Industries]

If your sticking your toes into the water

Lease Software, it avoids the Fire Sale or in

this case No Sale.

[#Rekd™]

Who's buying, who's selling....Like scalping tickets!

 

LOL

 

Raff,

 

I think you are SOL, sorry.

 

John

[Dave.L]

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I wonder what

a accountant woul say?

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It's an asset and that's why it's transferable if you sell the company.

 

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No.. its a legal agreememnt you entered into when you installed the software... the same agreement that governs the use of virtally evey software on the market.

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I'm well aware of the terms of the purchase.

 

Again,

 

it's all semantics. It does not mean I would break the agreement, I just don't agree with it. However, I DO give the software companies credit for sticking togther, something that job shops should learn to do then maybe we could charge more fair rates.

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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...I DO give the software companies credit for sticking togther, something that job shops should learn to do then maybe

we could charge more fair rates

our industry would get healthier...

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Fissed.

[Dave.L]

James, Yes, Yes, Yes

[Code_Breaker]

How come no one FROM Mastercam chimed in?