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The reason I brought up the fact that you had little number of posts,and I didn't think Dave would change it,was cause there are a lot of "fly by nighters" that come here and think that they can just come in here and make it the way they want it.

Your error in judgment here is that you “thought” Dave will not react on my demand, which is not a big deal and is negligible; however, your gross mistake was “generalizing” and thinking I am a "fly by nighters" and took upon yourself to prevent my concern from even being addressed. I mean, who the hell do you really think you are?!

 

Why do you think you have to “qualify” and score each and every suggestion or request by “members”?

 

Why not simply voice you are pro or against the said “suggestion”, with your own reason for it, and politely leave it at that?!

 

This is exactly why I wrote my lead post in that manner, because I knew there are always few (out of 7000) members who think they are better than the rest of us. There is no comfort in truth.

 

I could have said something like “trolls please do not respond”, or ”only those who agree with me respond only”. But that would be irrational and illogical, since I would not make a request to gain “personally”. I had the interest of the whole forum in my mind all along, and suggesting that I have insulted all members of the forum is at best ridiculous and at worst it’s barking at the wrong tree.

 

Having more post (and that is something to pause on; is it “quality” posts, or just the “quantity” that matters), does not necessarily give you the right to boycott and discredit a so-called “noobi” altogether.

 

The change I was looking for was not just for myself; everyone would benefit from it.

 

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"If you are mad for my response to you,then take it out on me. Not the fellow members that I have grown to like soo much."

It was not only your feedback that was the problem, there were few others as well.

 

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"Ooh,and while we are on the subject of "Democratic"...

How democratic is it it if things don't go your way?

How democratic is it if we don't have a right to an opinion?"

You are entitled to your opinion and have the right to express it (I walk the talk too), and that is precisely why I wanted to hear from other members.

 

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Midnite_Oil;

 

You make few good points. What can I say. I read other people’s posts, and I saw how “oldies” treat so-called “noobies”. That was the rational behind typing my lead post like that. I also hate people jumping to conclusion without even knowing me, like “he is young grad just outta school!”. WRONG!. I am a journeyman Machinist in my late 30’s with years of experience in industry and in working with people. I just hate the idea of having fear to post something, then someone saying “get an eye exam” and rubbish comments like that, that gets my nerves. I do not intend to generalize, but I see how and what people here talk and type and makes me a bit defensive. I wish I could think “positive” and think everyone is O.K., but realistically, there are few bad apples and my warning in the beginning was to them. And exactly they were the ones attacking me. I just rest my case.

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Hardmill,

Jack Mitchell ,

 

Thanks for your feedbacks.

 

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As for analy retentive redneck, you are an xxxx, you’ve always been an xxxx, and continue with this attitude and you’ll remain an xxxx for the rest of your miserable life.

 

Asking for a simple goddamn color change does not in any shape or form give you the right to be arrogant and should not have hurt your fragile feeling, you pussycat.

 

Don’t bother replying to this, until you apologize you’re on ignore list as of today.

 

You are foul and disgusting.

 

[ 11-12-2003, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

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Jaws !

 

Once I was a youngster too .

I did a lot of b@##$^*t but got one thing that I want to

share .

 

What do you think the greatest problem of the modern history and your`s

too ?

 

What every savage Indian ,Mongolian nomad ,Japanese samuray

and English gentelman had in common that you lack ?

 

Respect !

 

Respect to the parents .

Respect to your motherland .

Respect to the children.

Respect to the woman .

Respect to the man.

Respect to the elders .

Respect to the leaders .

Respect to the craftsman.

Respect to the priests.

Respect to the opponents.

Respect to the friends

Respect to the allies.

Respect to the enemy .

 

With the respect to others came a respect to you .

And the freedom for them was a right to do what they want

inside this invisible borders of respect !

 

Now IMHO most of our problems in modern history is from understanding the freedom as

a right to disrespect smbdy !

 

Now change respect to disrespect and see what we have now:

 

Disrespect to the parents .

Disrespect to your motherland .

Disrespect to the children.

Disrespect to the woman .

Disrespect to the man.

Disrespect to the elders .

Disrespect to the leaders .

Disrespect to the craftsman.

Disrespect to the priests.

Disrespect to the opponents.

Disrespect to the friends

Disrespect to the allies.

Disrespect to the enemy .

 

 

You must choose you want to be like those savages or the modern type nigilist

that gives a damn to everybody and call this freedom .

 

I do respect you Jaws but it depends on you ,how I`ll respect you in the future :

 

As a craftsmen ,friend ,opponent or as a jerk.

 

 

PS I don`t give a damn for the post count when I look at the men !

 

Iskander teh savage !

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PS I don`t give a damn for the post count when I look at the men !

Having seen how "some" members treat newcomers on other post, based on the number of their threads, prompted me to pose my request in the lead post in that fashion.

 

In other words, I respectfully asked to "not bother" replying but they replied with insult anyway.

 

Believe me, even if I had not written my lead post the way I did, their replies would still be the same.

 

Call it " Preemptive strike"!

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Jaws !

 

 

I wrote my last article before I saw your last reply .

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you are an xxxx, you’ve always been an xxxx

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hurt your fragile feeling, you pussycat.


And to my disappointment I must confess that I respect you as a jerk !

 

 

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until you apologize you’re on ignore list as of today.


That`s you !

 

Be a man and I`ll respect you as a man !

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I mean, who the hell do you really think you are?!


#1:A person who comes here to help others.(who also has an opinion)

#2:A person who would like to keep trash like you outta here.

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Don't worry brother, I'll respect you as a coward.

Your just digging your own grave here.

(Ooh BTW,this is just my opinion)

Do yourself a favor and go get a BIG box of kleenex and stop crying!

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Nice try!

 

What would you call someone who calls you a "Jerk"?

 

He is called a coward because instead of standing up for the truth he is covering the arse of his buddy. THAT IS COWARDICE.

 

And buckethead, go read my reply to you one more time. You apparently did not understand anything I said there.

 

I repeat:

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"Why do you think you have to “qualify” and score each and every suggestion or request by “members”?

 

Why not simply voice you are pro or against the said “suggestion”, with your own reason for it, and politely leave it at that?!

 

This is exactly why I wrote my lead post in that manner, because I knew there are always few (out of 7000) members who think they are better than the rest of us. There is no comfort in truth.

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lmao Homer......weeeeeee.

Hey...im a noob....never had a problem with gettin disrespected in here though. I thought the request for a color change was odd...but acceptable. Kinda like askin the boss for softer paper in the john...its ok to do ...but dont expect it to happen...and expect to get ribbed for it. ~~~~~~Shady

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Well , guys ,this man is also a fake !

 

Let us see what he writes to Bucket

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hurt your fragile feeling, you pussycat.


Now comes this

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[ 11-12-2003, 04:20 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]


and this words disappear

 

And voila !

he imprudently writes :

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And buckethead, go read my reply to you one more time.


that was your reply , you **********

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hurt your fragile feeling, you pussycat.


Now about this :

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He is called a coward because instead of standing up for the truth he is covering the arse of his buddy. THAT IS COWARDICE.

 


Hey ,Mr Arrogant !

You better call me a liar but not a coward !

Cause Mr. Ignorant , to cover a buddy`s arse is not a cowardice ,it is at least friendship or comradship.

Do you know this words ?

I doubt you will ever have friends here .

And I don`t give a damn .

 

 

OK.

 

I ,Iskander teh Lazy ,announce you ,Sir , a nonexisting for me .

You ,Sir , not exist and were never !

I also promise never reply to you ,help you in any way , or ever make some comment ,regarding you .

Sir ,you don`t exist!

 

Iskander teh taking his black notebook and scribes : Jaws never existed and nonexists !

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This noob wants to change his vote. I voted before I read this whole thread and I would not want to support anything that was initiated by a person who showed so much disrespect for some of the greatest minds in the trade as far as I'm concerned. So if you can Dave add one to the no and subtract one from the yes.

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With one color change request, I made 3 friends, got two leads and found out who the trolls are!

 

In the future you imbeciles (you know who you are) don't bother even reading my threads, because I would not need/ask/want help from the likes of you.

 

It is good to find out "problematic" folks and those who think they know everything, think they can be disrespectful to noobies, and think they are the jack of all trades and master on none.

 

 

Color change request, IMO, was/is a valid request. I have my windows settings set to "default" so that is why the topic column shows as dark orange. The green color that I saw looked just fine, but it was set back to original settings by dave.

 

Finally my message to all newbies:

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN YOUR MIND SAY IT, SUGGESTIONS, COMMENTS, REQUESTS, CRITICS, IDEAS,.....AND DO NOT BE AFFRAID OF TROLLS PULLING YOUR LEG AND TRYING TO SILENCE YOU.

THEY ARE USED TO BEING TREATED LIKE A DIRT AT THEIR PLACE OF WORK AND TAKE THEIR FRUSTRATION ON OTHERS. THERE IS NO COMFORT IN TRUTH.

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I've been AWOL for a few days.... looks like I missed some stuff. This seems like a very presumptious request.... I'd never expect a site to change to suite my needs... What a selfish request. Perhaps if he had started a poll to get the active members input before charging forward all could have been avoided!!

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Jaws,real name here please or e-mail in ur profile

 

 

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THIS IS NOT A MACHINE SHOP, THIS IS A FORUM ON WWW
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You wouldn't know the difference.

 


A simple (respectful vs. rude) comment/suggestion/opinion would be sufficient

Yes it would, but u started it.

 

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they don’t even realize that they are ill and need help!

Go cry to ur Mommy that college didn't help.

Get a real job and pay for ur own therapy.

 

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When I was in college

U didn't learn anything obviously.

 

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So if I will be shunned everytime that I open my mouth, I’d rather just stay solely as a reader without contributing anything to this forum.

Thank u little boy.

 

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The way you talk and express yourself is a reflection of your manner

Yes it is and u sound like a punk kid.

 

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Asking for a simple goddamn color change does not in any shape or form give you the right to be arrogant

Ur right so don't and don't slam God or he'll slam YOU!

 

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You are foul and disgusting.

Yes u are ! Grow up and be a man among Men.

 

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It is good to find out "problematic" folks

Yes it is and ur one of them.

 

Calm down little man in a grownup world.

Hope u get to work in a machine shop where u can get ur comeuppance. Cuz this little window is nothin compared to the real world. Wake up and start ur life with positive thinkin not negative crap that alienates u from the people that could help u the most.

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WOW I stayed out of this one on looks like I made a good choice. Jaws I had to repsonse in this thread which a direction of help. I will be one of those people you have not got to worry about helping you and glad I got your IP adress cause everytime it pops up as another Name which you little coward will do I know who not to help sorry if it becoem some other new person but you sir have ruined it for me here with your little mouth and just very imature attutide. You sound like some kid that didnt get enough attention from his father and thinking coeming here and being mean to the memeber here will make up for it well son this may not be a real machine shop but then you have got it real easy to what the real world is I promise you that. I have had guns, knifves and other thing be shown to me in the real world from guys who would show what that attutide would get you. I wish you the best of luck but will be a long xxxx time before I help any new people cause I dotn need crap like you put up and damn sure got better thing to do with my time.

 

 

I ask you sir to think about this sir go into a biker bar and tell them the things you have said to my fellow memebers and talk to them and aks for the things you have asked for here and if you walk out of there without an xxxx whooping then I say we you are the more knowledgeable more wise and god of this world if not then that would be a good first step for you to become a real man and not the little boy that you are.

 

Oh yeah I can promise you this it would be a cold day in hell before I would hire you to work for me with that type of attiutide.

 

Crazy Millman

 

[ 11-12-2003, 07:16 PM: Message edited by: Millman^Crazy ]

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Now I see why you are exploring mastercam.........................................You're last job in Human Relations obviously didn't work out too well.

 

Dude, your generalizations about the people here are the epitome of who YOU obviously are. frown.gif

 

Please just go away before any other newer people are infected with you're insane diatribe.Your 15 minutes are up..........

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Millman I understand where you are coming from but don't punish all new people because of 1 a$$hole like this. This forum has been very helpful to me and a lot of others. I would really hate to see 1 bad apple ruin it for others. And he has made it more than obvious he has no glue of what he is talking about.

 

That’s just my .02 worth

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The writers of the above four posts, you're bunch od loosers.

 

I frankly don't give a rat arse if you help or not, becuase your rationality sucks, and with your help I would crash the machines.

 

You got it all wrong, your bean size brain is rotten, because you 4 guys think, noobies do not have a right to speak here, they do not have a right to make an opinion, they do not have a right to type anything, and if they want to say something they have to raise their hand first.

 

Well, wake up and smell the coffe boys (men?) I would never hire you, I would not want to be hired by you, I wish I never come across the likes of you.

 

You could be a very skillful machinist, but you talk and walk like outdated beings that smell badly and can't make a comprehensive argument. You are from old school of thinking, that of "dog eat dog", or, "survival of the fittest" gang.

 

And the funny thing is, most of the people attacking me here so far happen to be Americans!

 

Go figure!

 

 

And Millman^Crazy

 

(Where did you learn to talk like that?!)

 

WOW!!

 

What a graceful retort. What a fantastic treasury of knowledge and wisdom you have skillfully displayed for us all. A vocabulary that teaches and enlightens the world of emotion and integrity. A sweeping gesture of worldly enthusiasm and love for your fellow man. A stunning and apocalyptic response that vears towards an intellectual level that no forum poster could possibly attain. You have my deepest and most profound respect and I see you as the elite on this board. You are a mountian among men. A lion among petty sheep. A navigator through the star studded sky.

Another wonderous display of unbelievable certainty and structure. You are a dancer among the rhythmless and a genius among the simple souls that wander across your path. I bow to you and your stunning posts of extravagant intellectualism and mistique. The world begs for your return as a child begs to be taught.

 

You F:A:N:N:Y biggrin.gif

 

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L Hanft;

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I'd never expect a site to change to suite my needs... What a selfish request.

L Hanft, to you I only say, that was not my "expectation" to suite my needs. As I have said it numerous times, and you would have seen them had you red the entire thread, the change I asked for would benefit everyone, not just me. Contrary to what you say, it was not a "selfish" request. It was for more clarity and easier reading of the site.

 

[ 11-12-2003, 11:52 PM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

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Yeah but he is not the first and seems like people who have got more posts under there belt understand this place alot better and dont act like that. I look at this place as to what alot of others have as a community. If you lived in my Neighberhood and were about the 12th or 13th person to move that acted this way then guess what I am not rolling out the welcome mat any more. I sit here and read this with my wife sitting here and my daugther who is not old enough to read it yet thank god. I dont claim to be perfect but this one and soem others really need to get their heads out of their but.

 

I mean if you want to pick a fight go pick a fight but if Jaws was the man he thinks he is he would have never repsonded back in the first place and would have taken any comments directed at him as just water under the bridge. I will still be around but just like I said really got better things to do then listen to some moran babble on like an idoit.

 

Crazy Millman

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I mean if you want to pick a fight go pick a fight but if Jaws was the man he thinks he is he would have never repsonded back in the first place and would have taken any comments directed at him as just water under the bridge. I will still be around but just like I said really got better things to do then listen to some moran babble on like an idoit.

Why should I take verbal abuse from some punks here???

 

What gives them the right to attack me for a color change?

 

One has called me "xxxx", the other has called "jerk". I will respond in like.

 

"Respect" is a two way street.

 

[ 11-13-2003, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: Jaws ]

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