X4 MU1

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

Yeah, CNC not using HOOPS would solve everything.

[Thee Rickster ™]

What's a hoops?

 

Is that what cimatron, surfcam, smartcam, work nc use? If so then, they have figured out something great.

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

HOOPS

 

HOOPS is one thing I would have to agree with JB on. At the very least, licensing it from Tek Soft would free up developers at CNC software to deal with other issues.

[neurosis]

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I could make an intelligent guess beyond I do things differently than many.

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This is exactly what I thought when I first started using Mastercam. I found allot of bugs that nobody else seemed to have experienced.

 

We all use the software differently and experience different results. I would imagine that the people that have used Mastercam prior to X use the software allot differently than the people that started in X or even just recently.

 

Is it possible that adding more users to the beta testing group (newer users as well) might help this situation?

 

When X4 released I found a huge wave of bugs within the first two days of use that kept me from continuing to use the software. I found the same with X3 "AND" X3 MU1. I still use X2 MR2 SP1 because I found work arounds for the bugs that I encountered there and have no desire to search for work arounds to new problems. Even though I would love to use all of these new features that have been added. (Dynamic Milling especially).

 

Ive really come to like Mastercam over the last year because of the flexibility and how easy it is to customize it to suite your needs. I could do without so many bugs however. It takes time to find work around for those bugs and from the shop owners point of view, that is just wasted time that he shouldnt be paying for. He takes the lost time out on me which bitters me toward the system.

 

Lets see some patches! and here is hoping for a bugless MU.

[Matthew Hajicek - Singularity]

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Is it possible that adding more users to the beta testing group (newer users as well) might help this situation?

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That does make a certain amount of sense. I've been a user since version 5, so my habits are largely based on what Mastercam was like before X. Some of the new functionality (like dynamic transform) I generally don't use, just because I'm in the habit of doing things the old fashioned way.

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

I've offered to be a beta tester many times, but I haven't had any luck

[Müřlıń®]

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How many think that if X4 MU1 does not fixes every problem or bug, That an MU2 should be released before X5 comes out?

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How many people think that MU1 should be free for all those who had maint on the release of X4?

[peon]

Just crashed while verifying using an .stl file as stock. Is there a fix for this CNC?

[peon]

Just reopened the file that crashed during verify in the above post and 5 operations are now locked with the "repaired nci" comment. Where is the fix for this CNC?

[Toonz]

I agree with all that has been thrown out in this thread and more so with the first few comments about patches. I strongly voiced the same sentiment in the Mastercam Survey that appeared in the forum last week. They are being paid for a service which they are failing to deliver on.

 

Have you all noticed that no one from CNC Software has posted anything in this thread yet?

[peon]

Ok, now it verified fine using the .stl as stock. But when I compared to the .stl of the part, it crashed. Have a fix for this CNC?

[Thee Rickster ™]

Peon, You can email [email protected] and ask if

it is being addressed for the MU1.

 

Problem is, if it is not it will delay the Mu1 further, especially if NO patches are to be issued

after MU1.

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

Maybe Vista is the problem? I don't really know, just throwing it out there.

 

Anybody that thinks complaining about it here is going to change anything, I think you are wrong. Get on the phone to your reseller or even CNC software and that is likely to have more impact.

[peon]

Rick. Most of the issues I'm talking about, (except for the verify problem) has been fixed per QC at Mastercam in MU1. Well, where the %&@#*! is the patch???!!! I hear about it, but it hasn't been delivered? I don't give a rat's xxxx about MU1, I want a patch now and they can name it anything they damn well please!!! Just give me the effin fixes so I can produce!!

[Thee Rickster ™]

Don't and won't eva use vista.

 

And it not about the complaining its about getting everyone with issues to convey on way or another

to report these issues to the right channels.

 

Just like you and I suggested in the last two posts.

[j.nguyen]

Neurosis -

 

Very well said....I am guessing those that have used the software consistanly find work arounds for the bugs. All of us us the software differently levels and experience bugs more then others.

 

Tony- The patches would be a great Idea....Getting tired of changing my comment blocks.

 

It would also be nice if there was a 5-axis routine that looked past the edge curves of a surface and extended the U and V's. And have a thick ( offset) value to control how far near or part a surface to drive. Also a way to control the ring value of the tool where the tool is tangent to the surface rather then using the top of the radius and to top of the tool to be tangent to. Most aerospace parts are about 80 percent 3-axis and 20 percent on 5-axis features. I am spending about 20 percent on the 3-axis features and 80 percent on the 5-axis features. After untrimming trimming creating drive curve geometry it takes time. Guess this is a little off the topic..... Maybe in X5?

 

Using X4

[Thee Rickster ™]

Peon,

point taken and I wish it would happen like that someday soon.

[peon]

My reseller actually suggested venting on this forum because CNC monitors our comments.

[Tony35]

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anybody from CNC care to chime in and let us know why this dont happen

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Have you all noticed that no one from CNC Software has posted anything in this thread yet?

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i HOPE they are at least reading this some very good input here from the users themselves

[Leigh @ Kodiak]

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My reseller actually suggested venting on this forum because CNC monitors our comments.

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Wow, really? Keep bugging him, posting here, AND call CNC Software with your complains. Maybe the "Tri-fecta Approach" will bring better results.

[peon]

I've been on the phone with him a lot lately.

[MN]

Vista sucks!! 7 is supposed to be pretty cool! We'll see!

 

Back to the matter at hand though. CNC stopped giving a chit at X. I have been with three companies since X. Two very large, one very small. I'll go back to what I said 3 post from the top. IT NEEDS TO BE A PATCH WITH MOST OF THESE MAJOR BUGS FIXED. All the companies I have used MC at paid for maint to get the NEW BELLS AND WHISTLES. ALL HAVE BEEN SWINDLED IMO. As of this past weekend I've talked with programmers from the last two places and from 4 other CO's in my area. ALL are dropping maint at the next renewal. 37 seats in all. Glad I only pay maint on one. Still feel bent over!!!!! Hold the vasoline I like mine dry!!!!

 

MC9.1 sp2

X2MR2SP1

Only two that do most of what they were sold to me on.

 

XPSP3 64 bit

4 gig ram

HOME BUILT WELL RESEARCHED F'N ROCK AND ROLLER of a box. IT ANINT MY HARDWARE.

 

MN

[Thee Rickster ™]

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IT ANINT MY HARDWARE.

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+1000

[Thee Rickster ™]

Thanks, unidentified flying bowman.

[htm01]

to quote cnc apps guy

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Banquer alert...

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