Verify interaction for X

[Ken Erman from CNC Software Inc.]

OK, I'm back again with more questions. This time it's about Verify.

 

1. - When you use Verify do you find yourself going into the config options on a regular basis?

 

2. If so, what options are you using? (This can help us put the things you use all of the time on top of the interface rather than buried in a dialog box.)

 

3. Besides issues with stock files and the WCS, what other things would it help to have in Verify?

 

Thanks,

 

Ken the PMGuy

[Tony]

Turbo or Solid tool

And stop on tool change or run straight through

Thats it.

[Fig sign]

Ken teh PMGUY !

 

Do not want to highjack the thread I only want to ask a little question :

Is there a chance that in Verify will be possible to measure (sorta analize->between points )?!?

 

Iskander teh lousy

[perfecseal mankato]

I use alot of form tools for undercuts, is it possible for those to be supported in X

during turbo mode.(show the actual undercut)

Also, during turbo mode if multiple wcs will be allowed.

Right now big programs are very time consuming for verify if you want to use form tools for

surfacing undercuts and using multiple wcs.

[Scott Bond]

1. - No

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3. A simple way to single step on the fly

 

Thanks

 

[ 01-27-2004, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: Scott Bond ]

[Tony]

"Single step on the fly"

I like that!

 

Right now I Cut seq 1 and save as seq1.stl

Cut seq2 Save as seq2.stl etc.etc.

 

That kind of gives me a step on the fly,

But I cant Preview .stl's

That would be nice too do

[PE @ IHS]

Speaking from a sales perspective, rotation of the part rather than the tool in rotary toolpaths, tombstones, (and c axis lathe) is a big benefit.

 

From a user perspective, having the option of displaying each coordinate (similar to verbose mode in backplot) would be a very nice tool, especially when trying to figure out pesky cutter comp errors, or trying to ensure proper tilt angles in multiax toolpaths. If I know the tool is supposed to be tilting 28 degress in A, and I see the A28 deg move in a dialog box as the verification takes place, I will be more confident that I programmed the part properly.

 

Another "salesy" bonus in verify would be to simulate peck drilling and thread forms in tapping. Not essential, but gimmicks do sell!

[gcode]

Backstep!!!!

[Philcott]

I sometimes make changes to shape, true solid and turbo. The rest usually stays unchanged.

 

Mill/turn support for lathe in turbo mode would be great. Also support for transformed toolpaths.

 

Phil

 

[ 01-27-2004, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: PhilCott ]

[d00d]

True solids in multi axis

[d00d]

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Backstep!!!!

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+1

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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1. - When you use Verify do you find yourself going into the config options on a regular basis?

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Yes I do.

 

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2. If so, what options are you using? (This can help us put the things you use all of the time on top of the interface rather than buried in a dialog box.)

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Getting my stock file and switching quality settings.

 

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3. Besides issues with stock files and the WCS, what other things would it help to have in Verify?

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CMM like the old N-See had. Verify G-Code, Check for Tool Holder Collisions (without any work-arounds), have it work like Lathe (incremental verification - get all previous ops in group or sub-group).

[PE @ IHS]

DooD

 

True Solid in Multiaxis is available as an add-on

[crazy^millman]

1) Yes.

 

2) I will swtich back and forth to save times from no tool to tool. Be nice to stop midway and change back to a tool. Backstep and forward step in blocks with the NCI code. G-code verfication would be awsome but yeah I know unreal to aks that.

 

3) Show multi WCS parts with Multi WCS Stock defintions. Better tool support for user defined tools is that is possible. Like Thread Mills, Woodruff cutter when doing undercuts.

 

[ 01-27-2004, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: Millman^Crazy ]

[Guest CNC Apps Guy 1]

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rotation of the part rather than the tool in rotary toolpaths, tombstones, (and c axis lathe) is a big benefit.

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+1

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...having the option of displaying each coordinate (similar to verbose mode in backplot) would be a very nice tool, especially when trying to figure out pesky cutter comp errors, or trying to ensure proper tilt angles in multiax toolpaths. If I know the tool is supposed to be tilting 28 degress in A, and I see the A28 deg move in a dialog box as the verification takes place, I will be more confident that I programmed the part properly.

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+1

 

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...simulate peck drilling and thread forms in tapping. Not essential, but ...

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+1

[mayday]

Make it somewhat like backplot. I dont always need a full size solid to check say my 15th opp. dont like to have to run all previous tools to see whats going on. maybe drive verify right to the model like backplot but with colored gouge check. or somehow remember the last view when verify ran to keep what you had.

 

 

maybe a N.O.S. tank to add to the Turbo.

[Philcott]

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True Solid in Multiaxis is available as an add-on

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How about just incorporating this into the VX package??

 

Phil

[d00d]

would also be cool if there was a pick stock corners for each axis. Like x and x- y and y- etc.. Thanks Peter did not know that. Having a terrible time with our adjustment to multi axis. (long story that's not allowed here)

[maestro]

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rotation of the part rather than the tool in rotary toolpaths, tombstones, (and c axis lathe) is a big benefit.

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+1+1

 

I have trouble tranforming stl files to other places say on a fixture without them becoming not watertight.

[Roger Peterson]

toggle on the fly for translucent stock

quality settings

step per refresh/step

toggle true solid to turbo

 

The ability to display the toolpath during verify would be nice.

 

How about pick a solid body or group of surfaces as stock instead of saving it as an stl?

 

 

HTH

 

[ 01-27-2004, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Roger Peterson ]

[Trevor Bailey]

Have the OPTION to verify using gcode or the nci.

 

Show TRUE round boring bars for lathe.

 

Have a side window open for when you are verifing using NC code. That way you could see in the code where the "red" mark is and then you could BACKSTEP thru the code just to make sure exactly what is going on.

[bryan314]

Ability to save stl file at ANY point in the verify not just at the end.

 

Ability to set a break point. For example, 10 operations to verify. Set a break point at start of op 4. Fast-forward to the the break point, which then would stop. Then you can verify the rest of the ops as normal.

 

 

Bryan

 

[ 01-27-2004, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: bryan314 ]

[Hardmill]

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Have the OPTION to verify using gcode or the nci.

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I like that one.

 

 

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Backstep!!!!

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+1 Got to agree with the boys.

[cadcam]

I would like it, when I use an STL as the stock that I don't have to go back every time and reset it to File while in the same session.

 

I might go and do this 10 time on a complex part.

 

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True solids in multi axis

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All ready there as a Add-on.

4 & 5 axis.

[mold100]

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