Newbeeee, thank you for seeing things so wisely. Your theory is valid, if no one embraces the .0 releases, less bugs get reported. The bugs are not getting squashed in MU1, they are simply given a chance to migrate to the MU1 only to be reported then, disrupting the next .0 release. A dangerous cycle. We purposely set aside development time to work on MU1 to address bugs only, so he who reports bugs in X5 gets a better chance of seeing a fix in MU1. He who waits to load X5 MU1 reports bugs that will disrupt our X6 development causing delays and more time to wait for a bug fix and the next .0 release. It's a vicious cycle, but like most things in life, it is always better to address something sooner than later. Another example. We see a lot of beta sites wait for deeper beta releases or even a PC release (production candidate) before they start testing because they want the software to settle a bit and obvious bugs to be addressed first. Then they start testing near our PC and start reporting bugs very late in the development cycle, bugs that could have been caught months earlier, delaying the next release. Again, another vicious cycle. This is software development, the earlier you report issues to us, the earlier we can release to you. Now I'm off subject in this thread

Julian's statement is a testament to the talented team behind Dynamic Technology.

Let's pull this thread back into the subject matter... First of all, CNC Software appreciates and understands the concern and passion expressed in this thread. As the Product Manager, I will only touch on the business side while focusing more on the technology side. I intend to explain where Dynamic Technology is and where it is going. End of Partnership It really comes down to the large overlap of functionality between our Dynamic 2D and 3D toolpaths and Celeretive’s toolpaths. This overlap makes the relationship not only difficult to comprehend from the customer’s point of view but also difficult for our dealers to sell. Will CNC Software Charge for Dynamic technology? CNC Software has no intentions of charging for Dynamic technology. Dynamic Technology Dynamic technology is absolutely home grown in the U.S.A. at CNC Software Inc. in Tolland, Connecticut. It is our technology and ours alone. The technology is based on our own unique approach to this type of machining. Dynamic technology did not copy any other systems as speculated in this thread. Dynamic technology was being worked on way, way before X4 was even thought about or considered. Dynamic Technology will continue to evolve, mature, improve and spawn new toolpaths in releases to come… Current functionality concerns The top two X5 issues discussed in this thread relate to ease of chaining and Rest milling. These two issues are being addressed in X6 late in the summer. I have been testing the enhancements for months. 2D HST Region Chaining –X6 will support explicit groups of chains to support “Machining Chains” “Avoidance Chains”, “Entry Chains”, etc…No more dependency on chain sizes, although you will still be able to use the X5 approach is desired. 3D HST OptiRest –X6 introduces OptiRest enabling users to reference STL files, reference previous toolpaths, tool sizes, etc for rest machining applications using OptiRough technology. A new Stock Model entity is also being released… 3D HST OptiArea & OptiCore – X6 will split X5 OptiRough into two separate toolpaths similar to the way X5 split up 2D HST Dynamic Mill. Another Generation of Dynamic technology X6 contains major improvements to Dynamic’s quality, smooth flow, tool load and includes full Bullnose tool support, no more cusps on the floor with aggressive stepovers, for all toolpaths using Dynamic Technology to include: Dynamic Facing Dynamic Area Dynamic Core Dynamic Rest Dynamic Contour OptiArea OptiCore OptiRest Other improvements and enhancements are in store as well… Did you Know? --3D HST OptiRough can be set to only mill flats during step ups, very useful on level one type parts. If you set the stepdown = step up it tells OptiRough to only mill flats on the way up. --2D HST Dynamic allows the user to influence the flow if the toolpath? Chain any open chain within your Dynamic Area pocket, set entry to “custom” and watch the dynamic motion use that open chain as the driving shape for the entry and the following toolpath. You can choose to ramp on center of the open chain or add a slot width to the entry. Entering with this method can be dangerous with an angle set as your entry depth, so use the pitch option instead. I welcome any and all example files you would like me to look at relative to OptiRest development. Please contact me outside of this thread if you are interested in sharing some files.

Nothing is being split out.

Hello everyone. I'm a CNC Software Product Mgr responsible for Mill. I want everyone to know CNC Software is listening. Dynamic Mill and OptiRough technology has been my responsibility since the first release of Dynamic Mill. I have read this thread a few times and understand, the opinions, the concerns, the speculation and so forth. I have some answers and information I'd like to share, but not until I sleep on it, this is a lot to take in. I will be reading this thread throughout the evening. I intend to respond tomorrow afternoon.

How about Dynamic Mill toolpaths or OptiRough already included in Mastercam?

I can promise X5 MU1 will be released in 2011

I'd have to say, overall Dynamic maintained a pretty good MMR if that corner is the only spot it went up. You will have better control of the actual corners in your chains or fillets smaller than your tool's radius in X6...among other things.

There have been many fixes and improvements to Hybrid for X5 MU1. If you want, send me your file and I can regen it in MU1.

Please send all files in question to [email protected] and cc me at [email protected]. We have fixed many issues in X5 MU1 and I'd like to run your parts through.

I gave our programmer a heads up. He asked that you send the example file. [email protected]

This issue has been fixed. It will be available in X5 MU1.

Slot mills are supported as well.

Surface-Finish-Contour supports undercuts and lollipop tooling...

This has been fixed for X5 MU1...

Take care when arc fitting dynamic motion using the filter. Please use very tight filter tolerances as to not alter the dynamic motion too much from its original trajectory. I have seen some users send example files in damaging tools with arc filter tolerances set to something like .05in ! They say they go that loose to create more arcs, not a good idea as you will allow the dynamic path to stray by as much as .05 when filtered, yikes! Stay reasonable on an inch part like .0001 to .0005 or something like that.

Can you please send me the file in question. Our Dynamic motion programmer has requested it...

That is a HAAS DT1, I recorded the video and programmed the part. It was in real time!

If you like Peel Mill for channel cutting try Dynamic Motion for all other pockets and cores...

A next generation of dynamic motion is being worked on with many improvements. Proper Bull nose support is underway and being tested today for a future release. You might also want to ensure you are not inputting a stepover exceeding your flat diameter of the bull nose.It will not eliminate the problem but will help. Also, use an appropriate micro lift height to ensure you do not hit the cusps when micro-lifting for now. We embarked on this next generation some time ago and have incorporated a lot of real world feedback, you will see even better dynamic motion shortly.....

Those micro lift reposition moves can optionally be output as traditional retracts if you wish. There are retract controls on the cut parameter page. This toolpath runs very well on a HAAS or similar machine. We tested it on a variety of machines, Makino S56, Makino V33i, old OKK, Okuma VMC, various HAAS models including the DT1 ranging from older late 90's models to 2010's, etc...Its for all CNC machines, no matter what the capabilities.

The color problem is related to the new solid face shading. Go to the solids menu and clear all solid face colors

Go to configuration. Navigate the screen page. Set 'free mode' in the list on the right.

Dynamic at full flute depth, stay away from Core Mill unless you want to step down some small value and mill the pocket over and over again wearing just the tip of the tool. Dynamic is new, it's designed to cut full flute depth, Core mill cannot do this. Dynamic will not create any pinch points like Core Mill will. It's hard to justify Core Mill over Dynamic in certain materials.

We have made some improvements to the Dynamic Mill toolpath relative to issues explained above when cutting cores. I would be interested in cutting test parts in your materials with your example files. If you are willing to send me some geometry, tool info, and settings I would like to cut your parts with the existing code and the new code.